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Old 10-04-2019, 11:47 PM   #3551
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Didn't Matusow say there was 2 or 3 hours of interview? Then the podcast comes out and there's what 48 minutes or so?
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:48 PM   #3552
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Didn't Matusow say there was 2 or 3 hours of interview? Then the podcast comes out and there's what 48 minutes or so?
it feels like it's 2 or 3 hours when you're highhhhhhhhhh
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:48 PM   #3553
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I can’t imagine MP saying anything other then I’m a pokergod I beat Tom dwan your all haters blah blah
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:49 PM   #3554
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Didn't Matusow say there was 2 or 3 hours of interview? Then the podcast comes out and there's what 48 minutes or so?
This crossed my mind, too. I heard Mike Matusow say "Part 1" at the beginning of tonight's podcast -- so maybe (please, no) this interview is going to be split into several parts.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:50 PM   #3555
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Postle believing he can explain this away to just being really good and underrated, despite all the overwhelming evidence, once again proves how stupid he is. An intelligent person would know hes done and stfu. Mike is not even bothering to push back on anything, what an idiot.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:52 PM   #3556
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BpfomSBz8c&t=229s


Dr. Phil's explanation of how liars react to being accused of something lines up incredibly well with what Postle is saying on Mike's podcast. He is such a liar and it's so obvious.

Also next level play by Mike to play stupid and pretend to be high as **** to let the guys guard down. Outplayed.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:52 PM   #3557
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Good idea going on with Mike the mouth vs Joey for a Pod MP............


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Old 10-04-2019, 11:52 PM   #3558
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Am I correct saying that since Black Friday week in 2011, this is the first time in 8 years that two plus two has had a post get over 140 pages in 4 days?
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:53 PM   #3559
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Is this podcast with the mouth even going to be coherent? Had Matusow's twitter in a tab waiting for him to post it and he tweets some batshit stuff. He's more gone than I had realized. Jesus christ.
Oh, so it's actually way, way worse than I even could have imagined when I posted this.

LOL THE MOUTH
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:56 PM   #3560
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Props to the Postle family in this latest interview....0 mentions of angle shooting and 0 mentions of committing tax fraud.
You're learning Mike!
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:56 PM   #3561
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

This is a trainwreck. MP is saying what he's already said a hundred times (which we knew would happen) and The Mouth is slurring incoherently and isn't even following what he's saying. Pathetic display.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:57 PM   #3562
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The mouth smoked 2 joints before he smoked 2 joints and then he smoked 2 more.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:57 PM   #3563
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

It’s such an interesting insight into the mind of a liar. Instead of addressing the accusations head on he just talks about how good at poker he is or how he’s a victim.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:58 PM   #3564
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Postle wears an Ole Miss hat? That explains everything. He must be a High Freeze man through and through.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:58 PM   #3565
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Mike just giving him a platform to lie like a child without any push back. Pathetic.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:58 PM   #3566
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Guys he lost money off stream in the 15 minutes before the stream!!! He's not a cheat.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:58 PM   #3567
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lol i'm having a blast listening to this..

"it's confusing.. because we play for 15 minutes and its just crazy.. people have pen and paper counting stacks and a bomb pot.... we have chips in our pockets and backpacks...it's just confusing...."
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:59 PM   #3568
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

"I lost 250k during the first 15 minutes of each session, off stream"

- MP
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:59 PM   #3569
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Am I correct saying that since Black Friday week in 2011, this is the first time in 8 years that two plus two has had a post get over 140 pages in 4 days?
I agree on the date range, not the page count tho cuz I have it set to 100 posts per page


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Old 10-05-2019, 12:00 AM   #3570
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As someone who has read the majority of this thread now I think it would be useful to recap the reasons that it seems we have gone from finding the 1-man operation theory pretty viable to now much more favoring the theory of involvement of multiple guilty parties.

Currently, the evidence indeed points to another individual or individuals helping to relay the information to his phone rather than use of a technology to read the RFIDs straight to his phone in a 1-man operation.

1. According to multiple sources (Veronica, twitter location stamps, JFK commentating), exactly during the time Justin Kuraitis (JFK) has a business hiatus in Las Vegas in the Summer of 2019, MP goes through a long string of absences from the stream during which he comes in only for a few smaller stakes sessions. Not only are his results during this time (adjusted by BBs) an order of magnitude worse than virtually all sessions he has played for over a year, but his style for these sessions is totally different. He plays much faster, doesn't look down at his phone while he plays, takes breaks, wears his hat differently, has a different posture, plays much fewer hands, folds to bluffs, less aggressive postflop, etc. This coincidence strongly implies that he is unable to cheat without JFK there, perhaps knowingly helping.

2. Purported technology experts in this thread have claimed that a device that can access RFID information from all the cards on the table from MP's seat in real time would need to be very sophisticated or impossible. Additionally such a device could be detected with an RFID sniffer that a casino investigating cheating could employ. A big question here is whether Mike owned a company that installed the RFID system at Stones and whether doing so would allow him to also send the RFID hole-card information to his phone using that system.

3. Mike is allegedly friends with the majority of the Stones staff including JFK who seem to be covering for him. There have been 2 or more instances when supposed incorrect graphics were used by Stones employees (Taylor Smith or other people creating the graphics for the show) to explain Mike's strange river decisions when suspicions were raised. Some familiar with the way the technology works say the explanations are far fetched if not technically impossible. JFK tweets for Stones that the allegations are "entirely fabricated" and conducts a video interview with Mike seemingly looking to downplay his GodMode and justify his play style. These people could certainly be expected to rush to his defense if they were involved.

4. The thread seems to have come to the conclusion that the method by which Mike was likely receiving the hole card information changed at some point during his run. In older streams, he tanks while glancing at his phone constantly during big hands. In later streams, (after a ban on phones at the table) he acts more quickly, isn't looking down anymore, but can be seen adjusting his hat many times during big decisions. To explain this change and a noticible bulge in his hat, many speculate that he is using a bluetooth bone conduction device which can be sewn into a cap. This device acts as an earpiece that can transmit sound as vibrations into the user's inner ear only heard by the user. While the phone technique could be automated in a 1-man operation, the bone conduction device seems likely to imply the involvement of a compatriot talking directly to him to feed him the hole card information.

5. Veronica is let go from her commentating job. Perhaps backlash for her suspicions by the person(s) involved trying to keep things quiet at the casino?

6. Presumably a 1-man operation could run a little less conspicuously than the way Mike seems to be cheating. Partner(s) may require playing for quicker gains to pay them their cut(s) or hasten the conclusion of the operation to reduce the chance of word getting out.

Are there other reasons I've missed that might justify taking an investigation into likely compatriots seriously?
I would add the following:

The amount of time over which this scam operated (over 1 year) makes it extremely difficult to happen without inside support. It's one thing to hack into a system for one or two sessions. It's quite another for this to go on for so long without detection, especially when there was already a formal investigation into cheating allegations (although I doubt that ever happened). Any decent network engineer would sniff this out in a day, forget about one year.

Also, it seems Mike used multiple methods, even switching up his MO after people began to get suspicious, as you noted above. That requires changes to back end systems, as well, which strongly implies inside support. It's not trivial to do something like this, to do it using at least two different methods in a casino without inside support is impossible, unless Stones has the most incompetent security team imaginable. The negligence here would be astounding without criminal conspiracy including insiders. And again, during a time when the casino is supposedly conducting a thorough investigation! Laughable.

Mike almost certainly had inside help. Unless he is an IT God as well as a poker GOD.
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:00 AM   #3571
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Of course the washed up cash game ATM who tried to collude with Phil Helmuth at LATB would defend this dbag's behavior.
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:01 AM   #3572
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Am I correct saying that since Black Friday week in 2011, this is the first time in 8 years that two plus two has had a post get over 140 pages in 4 days?
I hadn't posted here in five years, but as soon as I saw this go down on Twitter I knew the NVG thread was going to be incredible.

I'm excitedly refreshing a 2+2 thread like it's 2009.
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:01 AM   #3573
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Listening to this stream makes me want to headbutt a wall.
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:01 AM   #3574
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His long winded excuse about the 15 minutes of play before the stream starts is pathetic. Mike is so soft on this guy. If he challenged this guy at all he’d get a confession.
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:03 AM   #3575
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"Guys guys, I'm in for about an avg of 20-50k by the time a typical stream starts"
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