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Old 10-06-2019, 11:20 AM   #4676
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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I have read a fair amount of this thread and I have a few questions and observations:

1. Were there any security cameras over this game that could zoom in on whatever Mike was watching on his phone? I assume he and his accomplice made it so anyone looking at his screen couldn’t immediately decipher the information, but if the casino didn’t get that information, they were very negligent.

2. When people started having cell phones at the table, we assumed that floorpeople would at times look over the shoulder at the phone of anyone in a hand who was suspected of cheating.

3. I have been cheated about 20 times where the method was found out. The most I ever got back was money from a current hand or current session when the guy was caught. I’ve seen cheaters be barred or ostracized, but the only time I’ve seen them do jail time is when the casino pressed charges. (Stacked deck to hit a jackpot is one example, cheating at blackjack with the dealer false shuffling is another.)

4. A top player doesn’t do things that can invite suspicion when he is consistently killing a game. For example, if you walk into Bobby’s room, you will never see a top cash game player wearing sunglasses, because we all know they can be used to read marked cards. (Yes some tournament players wear them, but they aren’t playing for six figures every day.) If he was a top player and an intelligent person like he claims, he would have kept his phone out of sight any time he was in a hand.

5. Is there a way to individuals to pay Joey on his YouTube channel, or does someone need to set up a gofundme account? The community should pitch in $20 per person. Higher stakes players should give $100.
When Joey goes live on youtube ppl appear to be donating money (in the chat dont go fullscreen) I'm sure other posters will explain.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:21 AM   #4677
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5. Is there a way to individuals to pay Joey on his YouTube channel, or does someone need to set up a gofundme account? The community should pitch in $20 per person. Higher stakes players should give $100.
You can donate when he is streaming via super chat on YouTube.
Although YouTube pockets 30% of all donations which seems insane.
A Venmo link or btc address would be cool joey. I’d like to throw some money your way for the excellent work without paying youtbe 30%.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:27 AM   #4678
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Very interesting thread just popped up on Reddit - would encourage everyone to check it out. Provides precise timelines of when Mike started cheating...

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...first_cheated/
Listen to the commentary talk about Mike's "pained" posture in this hand as he stairs down at his lap an hour after learning how to cheat:

https://youtu.be/qAw9HiSpG9w?t=10881
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:31 AM   #4679
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He's not gesturing towards the camera here, he's talking to someone in the room
Actually later on in the stream they comment on him pacing and says he's watching a football game. What is interesting to me is:

1. Once the Lawyer moves next to him god mode is off
2. He seems crazily into the football game, must have a huge bet on it.

Note they comment on him flipping out to the football game at 2:19

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Old 10-06-2019, 11:34 AM   #4680
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pSU...outu.be&t=7760


look at him all angry here trying to signal or talk to the camera. i think has to do with people changing seats or asking him
This is so weird...what is he freaking out above and why is he throwing a temper tantrum?

He really seems like an insufferable prick.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:39 AM   #4681
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I'll probably quit poker too if this fool is pronounced innocent. holy sh**
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:41 AM   #4682
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If Postle is using his phone to look at other peoples' cards, why would he need to stare at the phone repeatedly throughout the hand, instead of just look at the phone once and memorize their cards?
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:41 AM   #4683
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Did mike win a 140k jackpot ?, has this been talked about ?
Was this a badbeat jackpot? they could have easy rigged the cards to have him win it etc



He tweets about it linking to JFK but the tweet has been deleted
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:41 AM   #4684
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Listen to the commentary talk about Mike's "pained" posture in this hand as he stairs down at his lap an hour after learning how to cheat:

https://youtu.be/qAw9HiSpG9w?t=10881
Mikes dreams of being one of the best players in the world came true on this very session. I hope he looks back fondly when he’s banned from every card room and hopefully rotting in San Quentin.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:43 AM   #4685
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If Postle is using his phone to look at other peoples' cards, why would he need to stare at the phone repeatedly throughout the hand, instead of just look at the phone once and memorize their cards?
One theory is he might be watching the stream in real time and he’s looking at the board run out.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:44 AM   #4686
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Joey's currently dining out on my $2 super chats
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:44 AM   #4687
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If Postle is using his phone to look at other peoples' cards, why would he need to stare at the phone repeatedly throughout the hand, instead of just look at the phone once and memorize their cards?
Because he is not intellectually capable of that level of memorization. How is this even a question?

That or he is just using his phone to call for the Bluetooth hat.

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Old 10-06-2019, 11:48 AM   #4688
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You heard him boys @4:17. Jonathan Little says we should storm Stones Gambling hall. They cant shoot all of us!
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:49 AM   #4689
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Mike Postle, talking about playing in games other than Stones:
"I will accept as many challenges as possible...I can play with anyone....I'm not saying I wanna go out and play Garrett...I will play with a lot of the top players...I will play with just about anyone...I will welcome almost all challengers." - Mike Postle, 10/05/2019

GET THIS GUY ON LATB ON A TUESDAY THRU THURSDAY NIGHT GAME.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:50 AM   #4690
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I can play with anyone
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I'm not saying I wanna go out and play Garrett
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:52 AM   #4691
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Because he is not intellectually capable of even that level of memorization. How is this even a question?
Exactly this. It's not as easy as you might think to consistently memorize the cards, and the more complex part is "who actually has what" still after the flop, especially if there are 3+ opponents post-flop.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:54 AM   #4692
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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the tweet has been deleted
Not deleted. JFK made his account private. The tweets are still visible to his Twitter followers.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:55 AM   #4693
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Exactly this. It's not as easy as you might think to consistently memorize the cards, and the more complex part is "who actually has what" still after the flop, especially if there are 3+ opponents post-flop.
It's not that hard. I can memorize all my 5 cards in BigO in a matter of seconds without looking back twice. With practice, can't be that hard to memorize 2-4 pairs of 2 cards from opponents.

Esp. if theories are that he learned morse code, then this isn't even challenging.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:55 AM   #4694
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Has now made CNBC. Expect it to hit a lot more US media by Tuesday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/05/chea...med-games.html
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:56 AM   #4695
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

theres no way he won a 140k jackpot, he was probably just tweeting that he hopes he is going to win it
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:56 AM   #4696
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I'll probably quit poker too if this fool is pronounced innocent. holy sh**
Uh yeah, that is not the way it works.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:58 AM   #4697
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Did mike win a 140k jackpot ?, has this been talked about ?
Was this a badbeat jackpot? they could have easy rigged the cards to have him win it etc



He tweets about it linking to JFK but the tweet has been deleted
Not sure about this. 'Hitting the jackpot tonight' comes off to me like he's saying 'I'm gonna win that tonight!' in a lighthearted way, not that he actually did win it.

Also if he'd won a 140k jackpot, in April, after we know from texts (Veronica and Bart Hanson) people already suspected him of being a cheater, I think we would know about it.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:59 AM   #4698
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He will probably be pronounced innocent, because too many people are involved and don't want to go down with postle when postle rats them out if he goes down. So they are using all their stolen and non-stolen resources to defend him. So sick. I would be content if they just threw him under the bus alone, but that probably wont happen - he is using is ability to rat as a safety net. This is what it is.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:00 PM   #4699
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I wonder how much sleep Mikey is getting these days
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:01 PM   #4700
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Also, it would be great to have a google doc or something that has all the most suspicious hands, with timestamped links to the vids, for easy access/reference. Perhaps split into hands that are particularly suspicious poker-wise (86o bluff, KK fold, QT fold, 88 call etc) and the ones that are suspicious behaviour-wise (rubbing the head, knowing when the RFID hasn't read cards, saying 'you scared me' to the guy with 64s etc). Would be happy to help contribute to something like that.
I tried to do exactly that with my sheet with timestamped links but nobody was contributing. So if you or anybody else would be willing to contribute to this that would be awesome.

Link to sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Go to the "Hands" tab at the bottom. We're gonna create a big list of all the most suspicious hands. Anybody with the link should be able to make edits.
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