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Old 10-06-2019, 02:31 PM   #4776
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The National Resources Division operates domestically, that is correct. The point I was making is that the CIA is not low enforcement. It’s intelligence gathering.
Do you find some of his behaviors to be odd from what you have seen? Would you say there has been some indicators of concealment?

I am especially interested in how his subdued body language at times is totally at odds with the outgoing demeanor.

At times he is the table captain and at other times he's the quietest guy there.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:35 PM   #4777
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Is anyone focusing on the July 18th 2018 session?

2:01:05 is the moment he first puts his phone under his seat and soon after is his first God mode hand (I think at 2:32:00).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAw9HiSpG9w

I think it may be key who he was texting with at this time. Here's a blurry picture at 2:08:11 when he is hiding his phone and stands up.



Going through pretty much every hand in this stream. I think this stream is key as it is when he is least experienced at God Moding.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:36 PM   #4778
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Just making it more visible.


Wow he may have figured it out.

July 18th might be the smoking gun.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:37 PM   #4779
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This is so damaging, such a black eye on the game. It's not even a question of if Mike is cheating, it's blatantly obvious.

Stones needs to resume the Live game, have Mike play in every game for the next month and implement a NO HATS, NO KEY FOBS and NO PHONES, especially pat down Mike, check his ears for microscopic listening devices. Then let's see how "God like" Mike runs.

If and when Stones resumes the Live game Mike will most likely never be allowed to play in it again. Which is too bad because we will never have true closure. He actually might even be able to just walk away, maybe...

It's unfortunate that he wasn't physically caught in the act, for instance, if a player seated next to him were to suddenly grab his phone from his crotch during a hand and see what was on the screen. Without this type of smoking gun evidence this will be much more harder (but not impossible) to prove. First would be to confiscate his cell phone records, the phone companies have every text message that you've ever sent, deleted or not. So if he had an inside accomplice and they texted about this scheme at least this could implicate the conspirator and help to force a confession.
Absolutely this.

Instead of publicly revealing this guy as a cheater to everyone who has spend a reasonable amount of time in the game. Jingram and all the others should have catch him in the act instead. It would have been so easy to do. Have someone play a session with him, confirm the god mode, snatch his phone, snatch his hat and reveal this shenanigans. Then FBI storms the room, everyone on the ground. Case closed.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:37 PM   #4780
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Hi Mike! I'd be willing to wager on you "decimating" NBA players.
If I was Mike, why would I say he cheated multiple times in this thread? Use your brain.

The second half is incorrect as well. I said I could beat majority of them at shooting the basketball at various distances. Like uncontested shots from a certain distance in case that wasn't perfectly clear to you.

But if that's the type of bet you want to take, I hope you have a lot of money to blow on losing prop bets.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:39 PM   #4781
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look at him all angry here trying to signal or talk to the camera. i think has to do with people changing seats or asking him
Some of you guys have spent so much time investigating this that you are clearly seeing things that aren't there - Its far more likely he's watching a sporting event on the TV.

Keep up the good work guys but make sure you are watching things with an open mind and not trying to make every little thing bend to fit your narrative.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:39 PM   #4782
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Do you find some of his behaviors to be odd from what you have seen? Would you say there has been some indicators of concealment?

I am especially interested in how his subdued body language at times is totally at odds with the outgoing demeanor.

At times he is the table captain and at other times he's the quietest guy there.
I haven’t watched enough of the feeds to answer that. If I had to guess, I’d say there probably are. I know if I was at the table with him, I’d find the dick-staring behavior suspicious. I’m surprised no one else did.
The laughing thing could be something, but I’d need to watch more to know for sure.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:41 PM   #4783
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https://youtu.be/2aGD4FYX9NA

This is from the big reddit post guy.
Great video. Good stuff starts at 6:30

Also, notice at 7:50 when he puts his phone into his lap for the first time and how he checks to make sure the screen is visible to him, even turning his head awkwardly. And then how cagey he gets when a floorperson walks by his seat right after that.

Also interesting is the touchscreen gestures he does on his phone just before putting the phone down there. A bunch of quick finger scrolls and possibly pinch-to-zoom gestures, as if to move the area of interest to him.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:45 PM   #4784
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I haven’t watched enough of the feeds to answer that. If I had to guess, I’d say there probably are. I know if I was at the table with him, I’d find the dick-staring behavior suspicious. I’m surprised no one else did.
The laughing thing could be something, but I’d need to watch more to know for sure.
Later in his Godmode he got better at concealing his dick stares. You can see him check his hole cards while looking down, then check them again seconds later with his head bowed down ever-so-slightly more (looking below the rail). He also mixes in some head shakes and bowing his head, to sneak a peak.

The great work being done by this man, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aGD...ature=youtu.be , shows that early in his Godmoding, Postle clearly isn't as concealed with the dick stares.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:50 PM   #4785
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This is the best frame of it:

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You would expect a blue screen if you were VNCed into a Windows machine with the default background.
You may be correct about the blue screen on Mike Postle's phone being a VNC client. It is not normal for a phone to have a blue screen. For people that don't know, VNC is a very popular way to gain remote access into a computer. This may be hypothetical but it makes sense. This would give Mike Postle access to the graphics tracker windows computer that displays the cards in real-time. This is described by Matt Berkey 23 minutes in this video
https://youtu.be/c-tn_g2wcRc?t=1380



It is also noted by Matt Berkey, which may be a coincidence, that when the cards are read, the screen is blue. If it is true, that this is a VNC client on Mike Postle's phone, this implies with a high probability, that there is an insider that knows about the VNC server application running on the graphics tracker windows computer (Someone has to have access to this computer to make sure that the VNC Server application is enabled/ is running on this computer for the VNC Client app to have access to it).

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Old 10-06-2019, 02:52 PM   #4786
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Later in his Godmode he got better at concealing his dick stares. You can see him check his hole cards while looking down, then check them again seconds later with his head bowed down ever-so-slightly more (looking below the rail). He also mixes in some head shakes and bowing his head, to sneak a peak.

The great work being done by this man, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aGD...ature=youtu.be , shows that early in his Godmoding, Postle clearly isn't as concealed with the dick stares.
One thing mike loves to do in god mode streams is always double check hole cards. Id like to know when he is playing in no god mode streams how many times he check hole cards vs god mode!
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:55 PM   #4787
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Do you find some of his behaviors to be odd from what you have seen? Would you say there has been some indicators of concealment?

I am especially interested in how his subdued body language at times is totally at odds with the outgoing demeanor.

At times he is the table captain and at other times he's the quietest guy there.
I've pointed out in several posts much of his behavior and what he's said is consistent with how guilty people act.

- repeatedly mentions he can't sleep and has no appetite for several days now
- refers to his crimes in the third person, and suggests absent his proof which he's yet to bring forward, that he'd think he was guilty too
- doesn't once directly refute the claims and proclaim his innocence in a succinct direct manner
- frequently uses the "vouch" excuse, claiming there are many, even hundreds of players and people that will vouch for him
- consistently deflects the few direct questions Matusow asks him, and goes off on wild tangents from the distant past 10 to 15 years ago regarding unrelated issues like family, injuries, etc
- this list could go on and on

Regarding the CIA/etc - many intel and law enforcement agencies that rely on human behavior analysis use similar techniques. There are piles of books and manuals available online on this subject.

Also, the CIA doesn't just collect intel - when I was a private military contractor I worked with some former Christians In Action employees that were in the Special Activities Division, people whose job included many direct action types of assignments. Agreed that the CIA is primarily an intelligence gathering endeavor, but there are many facets to the intel agencies of the USA and other 5 eyes countries which go far beyond just gathering information.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:56 PM   #4788
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You may be correct about the blue screen on Mike Postle's phone being a VNC client. It is not normal for a phone to have a blue screen. For people that don't know, VNC is a very popular way to gain remote access into a computer. This may be hypothetical but it makes sense. This would give Mike Postle access to the graphics tracker windows computer that displays the cards in real-time. This is described by Matt Berkey 23 minutes in this video
https://youtu.be/c-tn_g2wcRc?t=1380



It is also noted by Matt Berkey, which may be a coincidence, that when the cards are read, the screen is blue. If it is true, that this is a VNC client on Mike Postle's phone, this implies with a high probability, that there is an insider that knows about the VNC server application running on the graphics tracker windows computer (Someone has to have access to this computer to make sure that the VNC Server application is running on this computer for the VNC Client app to have access to it).
Cashing in some 2+2 credibility, and happy I could get my old username back, to say that my comments aren't speculation. They are straight from the source. They VNC in to be able to configure the decks, the players, the initial RFID syncing etc. VNC is installed on the pokergfx "server", which is a Windows Desktop. I even know the particular version of VNC client/server setup (I use it myself for some of my stuff).

After Black Friday I went full programmer too, for extra qualification.

This to me, is by far the simplest explanation that has no holes in it (on that note, we should look for holes). It explains Godmode, crotch stare, etc.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:56 PM   #4789
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One thing mike loves to do in god mode streams is always double check hole cards. Id like to know when he is playing in no god mode streams how many times he check hole cards vs god mode!
I'm guessing he double-checks his hole cards to verify that the stream data is valid and correct for the current hand, ie he's comparing his own hole cards against the hole cards shown on the stream for his seat position. He's doing that to prevent any time-shifting in the feed from giving him the wrong "reads" on the other players, ie getting their cards wrong for the current hand.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:57 PM   #4790
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One thing mike loves to do in god mode streams is always double check hole cards. Id like to know when he is playing in no god mode streams how many times he check hole cards vs god mode!
Yeah, watch it closely too. He is using it as cover to look at his dick. I've seen a few times where it's a valid hole card check, followed by his head dipping slightly lower than the legit check, to stare beyond the rail. The important part too, is that there is space between his belly and the rail in all of these cases. That's a requirement to see cards.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:59 PM   #4791
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If he ever did play again, he would blame his bad runs on cold decks and emotional trauma from all this.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:59 PM   #4792
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I just watched the first and last hours of the June 22nd, 2018 stream and can confirm that Mike was absolutely not cheating on this stream. He was noticeably tilted on a couple occasions. I found this one funny: https://youtu.be/1RTNjRxcvIc?t=13365
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:59 PM   #4793
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If I was Mike, why would I say he cheated multiple times in this thread? Use your brain.

The second half is incorrect as well. I said I could beat majority of them at shooting the basketball at various distances. Like uncontested shots from a certain distance in case that wasn't perfectly clear to you.

But if that's the type of bet you want to take, I hope you have a lot of money to blow on losing prop bets.
Beat a majority of the NBA shooting a basketball at certain distances. Book that bet, Mike.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:01 PM   #4794
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i play online and sometimes when 1tabling i will leave the house and control my computer with a remote viewer

google chrome has a desktop extension called remote viewer and once a phone is given permission (a 1 time pin #) you can connect to that desktop easily. there is a notification displayed on the desktop for a short period of time and after that there is no way for a layman to randomly detect a compromised computer

seems like mike could have been doing something similar in his early sessions at god moding before moving on to the bone conductor
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:02 PM   #4795
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Absolutely this.

Instead of publicly revealing this guy as a cheater to everyone who has spend a reasonable amount of time in the game. Jingram and all the others should have catch him in the act instead. It would have been so easy to do. Have someone play a session with him, confirm the god mode, snatch his phone, snatch his hat and reveal this shenanigans. Then FBI storms the room, everyone on the ground. Case closed.
Really easy to have fantasies of catching Postle now, 5 days after the fact regarding this thread and all the video evidence Joey/Doug have analyzed and put forward for the public to see. You do realize that the initial whistle blower, Veronica, was blown off by almost everyone as just a spinny blond with a limited understanding of the game who was just plain wrong, and a bad person for accusing such a nice guy of cheating. It wasn't until she went to Ingram, a friend of hers, who then agreed to have her back and dig into this, that any of us including you would have even known about this cheating.

So if the whistle blower herself wasn't believed for days, even longer as this isn't the first time Postle has been under suspicion, how on earth can it be reasonably expected that those who figured this out shouldn't have gone public, and instead should have set some sort of trap to catch Postle in the act. Besides, "catching" Postle's cheating so far has been largely a group effort, with said group sending Ingram information that he could pare down and analyze. It wasn't just a couple or few people who outed this guy...
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:03 PM   #4796
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I just watched the first and last hours of the June 22nd, 2018 stream and can confirm that Mike was absolutely not cheating on this stream. He was noticeably tilted on a couple occasions. I found this one funny: https://youtu.be/1RTNjRxcvIc?t=13365
Noticeable how his entire personality changes in GodMode.

The very few hands he has to call off/loses to a hero call he just accepts it. No drama or show.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:05 PM   #4797
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Cashing in some 2+2 credibility, and happy I could get my old username back, to say that my comments aren't speculation. They are straight from the source. They VNC in to be able to configure the decks, the players, the initial RFID syncing etc. VNC is installed on the pokergfx "server", which is a Windows Desktop. I even know the particular version of VNC client/server setup (I use it myself for some of my stuff).

After Black Friday I went full programmer too, for extra qualification.

This to me, is by far the simplest explanation that has no holes in it (on that note, we should look for holes). It explains Godmode, crotch stare, etc.
I'm a software developer too. I don't have much insight on the pokergfx setup but I think that you nailed it on how it is done.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:07 PM   #4798
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I've pointed out in several posts much of his behavior and what he's said is consistent with how guilty people act.

- repeatedly mentions he can't sleep and has no appetite for several days now
- refers to his crimes in the third person, and suggests absent his proof which he's yet to bring forward, that he'd think he was guilty too
- doesn't once directly refute the claims and proclaim his innocence in a succinct direct manner
- frequently uses the "vouch" excuse, claiming there are many, even hundreds of players and people that will vouch for him
- consistently deflects the few direct questions Matusow asks him, and goes off on wild tangents from the distant past 10 to 15 years ago regarding unrelated issues like family, injuries, etc
- this list could go on and on

Regarding the CIA/etc - many intel and law enforcement agencies that rely on human behavior analysis use similar techniques. There are piles of books and manuals available online on this subject.

Also, the CIA doesn't just collect intel - when I was a private military contractor I worked with some former Christians In Action employees that were in the Special Activities Division, people whose job included many direct action types of assignments. Agreed that the CIA is primarily an intelligence gathering endeavor, but there are many facets to the intel agencies of the USA and other 5 eyes countries which go far beyond just gathering information.
Yes, there is a paramilitary division that is comprised of former special forces, seals, etc. Maybe we can stay on topic. The thread is about Postle’s cheating, not the CIA, it’s directives, missions, etc. Geez!
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I'm a software developer too. I don't have much insight on the pokergfx setup but I think that you nailed it on how it is done.
I want to be clear that I'm not speculating though. This is what I was told from one of the people that has access at Stones. They take a company laptop to the table to sync RFID cards and test, before the stream. They VNC into the "server" running pokergfx so they don't have to run back and forth. It's a huge security vulnerability even though generally VNCs are used for *added* security.

EDIT: I am speculating that this is how the cards are being relayed though, but the mechanism is 100% there, objectively.
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You may be correct about the blue screen on Mike Postle's phone being a VNC client. It is not normal for a phone to have a blue screen. For people that don't know, VNC is a very popular way to gain remote access into a computer. This may be hypothetical but it makes sense. This would give Mike Postle access to the graphics tracker windows computer that displays the cards in real-time. This is described by Matt Berkey 23 minutes in this video
https://youtu.be/c-tn_g2wcRc?t=1380



It is also noted by Matt Berkey, which may be a coincidence, that when the cards are read, the screen is blue. If it is true, that this is a VNC client on Mike Postle's phone, this implies with a high probability, that there is an insider that knows about the VNC server application running on the graphics tracker windows computer (Someone has to have access to this computer to make sure that the VNC Server application is enabled/ is running on this computer for the VNC Client app to have access to it).
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Cashing in some 2+2 credibility, and happy I could get my old username back, to say that my comments aren't speculation. They are straight from the source. They VNC in to be able to configure the decks, the players, the initial RFID syncing etc. VNC is installed on the pokergfx "server", which is a Windows Desktop. I even know the particular version of VNC client/server setup (I use it myself for some of my stuff).

After Black Friday I went full programmer too, for extra qualification.

This to me, is by far the simplest explanation that has no holes in it (on that note, we should look for holes). It explains Godmode, crotch stare, etc.
I believe this. The headphones/hat/easily revealable physical evidence seems completely unnecessary to me. How would you go about doing this if you wanted to cheat? You don't need a 2nd person telling you what to do after you can already see the cards, you just need the absolute simplest, least detectable method.

The simplest Occam's Razor solution to me is that he was able to access the software on some kind of administrator level and could just see cards associated to each seat. Anyone in the back room with permissions to this information would be able to see who else is accessing it so they are almost certainly in on it as well.
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