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01-16-2011 , 09:04 PM
a few ideas for cotw off the top of my head

playing rush poker, main geared at being relatively hudless.

timing tells and maybe a bit on live tells.

hmm i thought i had more but maybe not
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01-17-2011 , 01:48 PM
I was thinking of doing a Rush one, but since it is site specific it shouldn't be a COTW
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01-17-2011 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
I was thinking of doing a Rush one, but since it is site specific it shouldn't be a COTW
i personally think it should be allowed. we did a COTW on catching card cheats, live games, etc. and RUSH is still poker...just a different style imo
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01-17-2011 , 03:17 PM
I concur.
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01-17-2011 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by *Split*
i personally think it should be allowed. we did a COTW on catching card cheats, live games, etc. and RUSH is still poker...just a different style imo
+1, Rush is still poker. It is a legal restriction that sees it only on FTP. Conceptually it can be played anywhere. Why should COTW's be restricted to only being multi-site anyway? Who cares? Just change the rules if there are any boundary rules for COTWs.
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01-17-2011 , 05:34 PM
alright, book me to write one for the week of 31 jan
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01-17-2011 , 09:52 PM
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alright, book me to write one for the week of 31 jan
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01-18-2011 , 03:50 PM
I'm sure a lot of people are going to LOL at this suggestion, but before you do, here me out.

Try filtering your lifetime hand histories for all hole cards besides AA.

There was a thread I read recently where a few people were shocked to find they were running around breakeven for all hole cards besides AA, and that virtually all of their profit (when looked at this way) was from AA.

I'm sure there are people who will show decent profit without AA, but I think a lot of people won't as well - and are just trying to float through blinds and rake with their non AA hands. Regardless, I'll still guess that a huge percentage of your earnings are probably coming from AA.

As you've probably guessed by now, I think there should be a COTW on playing AA. (In fact, I actually think a small-medium/medium sized book could be written on it, as silly as that sounds.)

Issues to discuss could include what to consider regarding:
* Preflop, limping in EP with intention of raising (IMO bad)
* Preflop, raise/re-raising vs flatting
* Preflop, trying to get a favorable SPR on the flop vs not wanting to blow everyone else out of the hand
* Preflop, when deep, trying to get a favorable SPR on the flop vs not wanting to blow everyone else out of the hand
* Preflop, when it looks like it's going to be a multiway pot
* Postflop, SPR considerations
* Postflop, when to consider laying it down
* Postflop, when in position and bet into, raising or calling (assuming not laying down)
* Postflop, when out of position and raised, re-raising or calling (assuming not laying down)
* Postflop, when it's a multiway pot
* Postflop, flopping Axx rainbow, without any obvious straight draws

My winrate has been 9.46bb/hand (big blind) with AA. A thread I posted a while ago found winrates of 11.1, 3.13, 8.9, 4.34, 8.16, 11.76, 12.11.

Obviously there's going to be a lot of variance here, but I think a COTW on this topic would be very beneficial.

In a given 10,000 hand stretch, a player will expect to be dealt AA 45 times. If a player improves their AA bb/hand by a whopping 0.4, that accounts for a 0.18 increase in their overall bb/100 rate. If a player improves their AA bb/hand by a spectacular 2.0, that accounts for a 0.9 increase in their overall bb/100 rate.

From a putting time into it standpoint, I wouldn't mind writing it. But, I really don't think I'm anywhere near the most experienced player who could write it. And, I don't mean number of hands here. I've played somewhere near 800k-1mill hands online. But, I haven't focused enough on theory, and my winrate isn't anywhere near other posters on this forum.
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01-18-2011 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by darlingm
As you've probably guessed by now, I think there should be a COTW on playing AA. (In fact, I actually think a small-medium/medium sized book could be written on it, as silly as that sounds.)


From a putting time into it standpoint, I wouldn't mind writing it. But, I really don't think I'm anywhere near the most experienced player who could write it. And, I don't mean number of hands here. I've played somewhere near 800k-1mill hands online. But, I haven't focused enough on theory, and my winrate isn't anywhere near other posters on this forum.
It has been said that the COTWs don't necessarily have to be written by experts (though many are), but instead by someone who has given enough thought to the subject to start a discussion between the 2+2 members. We have a COTW for KK, I see no problem with having one for AA.
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01-19-2011 , 02:02 AM
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It has been said that the COTWs don't necessarily have to be written by experts (though many are), but instead by someone who has given enough thought to the subject to start a discussion between the 2+2 members. We have a COTW for KK, I see no problem with having one for AA.
I'll do it if you guys want?
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01-19-2011 , 03:04 AM
Since darlingm already appears to have thought about this a lot, why not have him start it?
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01-19-2011 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
Since darlingm already appears to have thought about this a lot, why not have him start it?
Actually yeah great idea - go for it mate!

Seriously it'll really help your game
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01-20-2011 , 02:26 AM
I've given this a lot of thought. I'd be honored to write it. I'm leaning toward doing it and putting a lot of time into it.

I am worried that I may have more questions than answers than experts, but that might be OK. Thinking about it, a good COTW on AA won't be always do this here, that here, but getting people to think through the situation more is probably the better way to go.

I'd like to schedule on for the week of Feb 14. I know it's a ways out, but I'd like the extra time.

I'd like that as I get something written up that I'm getting fairly comfortable with, being able to run it by an expert, before it's posted. Lx12 interested in that role?
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01-20-2011 , 02:36 AM
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I've given this a lot of thought. I'd be honored to write it. I'm leaning toward doing it and putting a lot of time into it.

I am worried that I may have more questions than answers than experts, but that might be OK. Thinking about it, a good COTW on AA won't be always do this here, that here, but getting people to think through the situation more is probably the better way to go.

I'd like to schedule on for the week of Feb 14. I know it's a ways out, but I'd like the extra time.

I'd like that as I get something written up that I'm getting fairly comfortable with, being able to run it by an expert, before it's posted. Lx12 interested in that role?
you got it sir. and don't worry about it being "expert level"...just write as best you can and the conversation will follow it =)
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01-20-2011 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by darlingm
I've given this a lot of thought. I'd be honored to write it. I'm leaning toward doing it and putting a lot of time into it.

I am worried that I may have more questions than answers than experts, but that might be OK. Thinking about it, a good COTW on AA won't be always do this here, that here, but getting people to think through the situation more is probably the better way to go.

I'd like to schedule on for the week of Feb 14. I know it's a ways out, but I'd like the extra time.

I'd like that as I get something written up that I'm getting fairly comfortable with, being able to run it by an expert, before it's posted. Lx12 interested in that role?
Sure thing - just PM me it and I'll tell you what I think

and btw I am by no means an expert.
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01-26-2011 , 01:20 AM
Go for it.....gl.
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01-26-2011 , 04:03 AM
I'm in the mood to write a COTW. Any subjects being bandied about that don't have an author? Any requests?
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01-26-2011 , 04:17 AM
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I'm in the mood to write a COTW. Any subjects being bandied about that don't have an author? Any requests?
Read all the previous suggestions I've made which are pretty much ignored.
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01-26-2011 , 05:10 AM
I'm not being a smart ass, this is a serious question: why don't you write one of the ones you have suggested? As I said in the OP, you don't need to be an expert.

Nobody has done a COTW this way yet, but it'd be fine if somebody did a COTW in which the person just asked a bunch of questions organized around a theme and we all piled in to answer them.

That said, most of the topics I saw that you mentioned (or bumped other people mentioning) have been done.

Restealing has been done, donking has been done, floating has been done.

What'd I miss?
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01-26-2011 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
I'm not being a smart ass, this is a serious question: why don't you write one of the ones you have suggested? As I said in the OP, you don't need to be an expert.

Nobody has done a COTW this way yet, but it'd be fine if somebody did a COTW in which the person just asked a bunch of questions organized around a theme and we all piled in to answer them.

That said, most of the topics I saw that you mentioned (or bumped other people mentioning) have been done.

Restealing has been done, donking has been done, floating has been done.

What'd I miss?
I've done 3 of the last 10 cotws (including 1 insanely long one) people are probably sick of hearing what I have to say by now. I'm more than willing to do one after 14 feb.

Restealing has sorta been covered (it's a combo of 3 betting and blind defence) but I meant more about the postflop play side of things. i.e a 15/13 with 25% ATS steals and 75% ft3b and we 3bet with A8s or something, what do we do postflop on various boards (what factors to considering). What if we have K9o or KJ etc.

Donking has been done as in what to do when facing a donk bet but not why donking is bad (I can't find a mathematical argument for it - maybe something about relative position, commitment, aggression and range balancing) - I think 2+2 mantra has taken over here tbh - but I'd love to be proven wrong.

Also, overbetting is yet to be done.

As is playing in multiway pots.

Just a few ideas.
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01-26-2011 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
I can do one on donking, though it could only be late Jan cos I have exams coming up.
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01-26-2011 , 12:57 PM
OK, D4, I'm going to schedule you for one on donking because, well, it is just so perfectly appropriate. You're next up, it'll be the 31st if you can get it done.

I'll take the next one, which will be restealing on February 7.

If you want me to switch those dates, I can, as restealing is going to be pretty easy for me to crank out.
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01-26-2011 , 01:13 PM
I guess my COTW is not wanted anymore?
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01-26-2011 , 10:11 PM
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I guess my COTW is not wanted anymore?
ZOMG, it's very wanted by me, and I'm sure many others.

I am writing "Playing AA", which I originally said to write me in for Feb 14. I've been thinking through a lot of it and doing some research, makes no difference to me whether it's week of Feb 14 or week of Feb 21. SammyG, feel free to go before me, you're probably further along with yours than mine.
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