I see nothing wrong with dealers waiting in the same line as the room's customers.

Wouldn't separate lines just have the dealers get taken care of quicker...?

While i'm not in agreement with rush(mostly cause I see venom coming from a dealer only line) Going to main cage with 2-3 racks is a hike, and potentially going to lead to trouble. Not just from someone following you/noticing you but potential for dropping chips. Or the "OMG where'd xxxx come from" Further the handful of times i've cashed out at the main cage it's usually a longer line.

Maybe having another person on grave at that time? I've seen what rush is talking about where 3-4 games break at a push and then 15 people are waiting in line. It beats the taj closing their poker cage all together ; )


FWIW parx lets their dealers/cocktail cash out in what I can only call a fill area. It's off to the side and inaccessible from the players.

Main cage ftw. I used to always cash out there.

It does not make sense to have a dedicated cage employee to dealers only. That would entail taking away one of the other cage employees elsewhere who could serve EVERYBODY.

I think you are recommending that they should hire an additional person, which would be good for the players obviously, but you have to think about it from Borgata's perspective as well. Does the occasional 20 minute wait justify an additional headcount? It is ultimately up to management to decide that.

Be happy that CET and now Taj have fallen for this. We don't need it at Borgata, too. What's next, raising the time charge at mid and high limit games to buy pizza for the 1/2 players?

Don't they already usually have someone in the cage at the window where the uniformed security personnel go for fills? And if so, isn't that person usually not busy anyway? That would be a good place for dealers to go if both are true.

It would also ease the lines somewhat if they would allow dealers to sell their chips to a player. I often sold chips while waiting in line, which allowed at least one, sometimes two or more players to leave the line early. Dealers have told me they aren't allowed to do that though.

I have also used the main cage when going back to my hotel room, when I will be passing it anyway. It is a crapshoot though, sometimes it doesn't end up saving any time, so not the best route for someone ready to head back to the surface lot.

As you make your bed, so you will sleep

Borgata has a well though out aggressive plan to attract mid-limit and high limit players. CET and Taj have well thought out plans to attract low limit players. In order to struggle for their market share of low limit players, Borgata has to offer promotions/comps. I think it is possible in the winter. If it is not possible, it may be, ironically, because Borgata is too successful and too well run, see http://nj1015.com/atlantic-citys-bor...new-president/

ive never had a problem with long lines bc of dealers
i rarely even see more than 1 dealer in line, and most of the time there are none
having a separate line for dealers would just be having an extra cashier that most people can't use

Try to cash out at 2am. (Or any big shift change.)

The poker room has been extremely generous to the players with comps, free-rolls, etc. I much prefer having funds used to comp players rooms, and award bonus comps, rather than add unnecessary staffing costs to satisfy the occasional "prima donna" who can't walk a few feet in stilettos to the main cage to cash her chips in without squealing.

Play another hour?

The rush to the cages happens on the half hour when time is collected and people decide to leave. If you really care about short lines, leave 5 min before time is collected.

Borgata marketing is now demoting selected black label holders to red label, even if your card is not expired. Also, if you booked any comp room reservations, they all may be cancelled as well. Check your upcoming reservations and card status online.

I assume this is due to a player's recent inactivity, but many friends of mine who have black label cards expiring in 2013 got the bad news this week, when they went to check in at the hotel. Nice move, marketing.

Online it shows I am black card and I have earned over 400 comps since March.
Does the black card status online mean everything is ok? In either case,
sounds like a good time to stop fooling around and start putting in some serious hours playing poker. Anything good on the menu tomorrow at the buffet? (By the way, this may support my theory that the Borgata has so many people putting thousands of dollars into the slot machines, that those of us who are not putting in the hours or playing low limit games are vulnerable to demotions and room cancellations, that this is happening in the winter should serve as a wake up call...) see, http://www.delawareonline.com/viewar...|topnews|text| there is a movement afoot to increase room revenue, which may be a disaster for Revel, but which Borgata may be able to pull off given the huge database of folks who plunk thousands and thousands into the slot machines...

None of these players I mentioned were any type of advantage players either (i.e. they didn't count cards or anything like that). Their slot and match play offers were still intact, but all their comp room offers disappeared and rates are now something ridiculous like $129 for weekdays). Also, no more Amphora Lounge access because of the demotion.

the story is starting to make less sense now. I have a low rating, but even I see mostly $59 weekday rates, $129 for most weekdays makes no sense, there is something more to the story...

Anyone getting the Babes of Borgata calendar? Are any of the f poker dealers in there?

See you this weekend 2-5 fishies.

So are you saying you guys that if you play lot of hours at Borgata, you still don't get comped rooms?

It depends very much on what stakes you play.

I am just a red card, live 130 miles away, play 2-5NL and get comped rooms all the time including most Fri/Sat. I play 6-10 hrs a night when i come down. I do come at least every month so no long gaps which will slow down comps IMO. Have like 200 hrs since like june. Honestly the comps are very generous.

Maybe 1-2 is too low or you don't play long enough each session but at 2-5 and above the comps are very good.

I still had my rooms after a 3 moth absence. Then I went and played for like 10 hours and when I came home my rooms were gone. It's as if I was better off not playing because it triggered something to have my lose my rooms.

The moral is book every room you think you might make it down for and just cancel if you can't.

1-2 NL is too low for FRI/SAT. There are hotels in Absecon for $50, and even at 1-2 NL the comps are great, especially if you use them for food!

Yeah I've had that happen a couple of times but they all show up again a couple of days later. Not sure whats up with that but they do come back up on website. Yeah I also book up whatever I want way ahead of time then cancel like a week before if I am not going to be able to use them.

Short notice booking is not as easy as the price goes up as dates get close.