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09-16-2010 , 03:09 PM
Just wanted to say I ate at SeaBlue for the first time a couple weeks ago and the garlic roasted potatoes were fantastic. The fish was good too, but I can't stop thinking about those potatoes!
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09-16-2010 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EADGBE
do they ever get a 2nd 1/2 plo table running on weekends?
last saturday the list was 5 or 6 deep so i ended up playing 2/5 plo because they said they wouldnt call it till they had 10 on the list.

I did the same thing. The 2/5 game was nice, and didn't really play that much bigger than the 1/2 when I've played it in the past. Good times.
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09-16-2010 , 03:46 PM
just started a list for 5/10 HOSE with a round of 1/2nl and 1/2 PLO. I asked the floor to make an announcement and we have 3 people already. Just wanna let you guys know I will be starting this everyday I am herre so if interested stop in .
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09-16-2010 , 04:13 PM
Apparently I MIGHT make a quick stop since my best friend wants to visit the Amphora Lounge tonight. And yes, that's nice a PLO list is starting. :-)

Mr. Stan, game report please? Thanks.
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09-16-2010 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
I just read about a hand in a Borgata Open prelim.

From what I've read, this behavior happens regularly at Borgata.

I wonder if the dealer or any player asked for a floor person to make a ruling.

In the past, based on what I've read about this type of play at Borgata, players have only been warned and not penalized.

What do you think about this, Stan:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-blog...one-crazy-hand
First of all this hand happened in a live game in the poker room. If this happened in a tournament, the player(s) that showed their hand would receive a warning for the first instance. Penalties for the same infraction going forward (usually 10 hands to start). In a live game, the same warning for the first infraction and time off penalty going forward (usually 30 minutes to start).

Stan
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09-16-2010 , 05:19 PM
machmood... Ill add my name to that list everytime i am there as well...

I played in the omaha hj/lo event of the series... people were talking on phones in non english languages after they folded while seated at the table. One dealer said it was ok to show cards to another player in the hand if that player had folded (after uproar from the table she said oh i guess that is a tourney only rule cos it is allowed in cash, floor at least corrected her for tournament, she is a staff dealer). People were reading Kindle's or ebook readers at the table. I was also told u can deal 2 consecutive cards to a player at Borgata, which is the only place I know of that permits that. usually if the dealer flips one of the cards to the button it is a misdeal. Things were a little different than what I was used to.
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09-16-2010 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East
First of all this hand happened in a live game in the poker room. If this happened in a tournament, the player(s) that showed their hand would receive a warning for the first instance. Penalties for the same infraction going forward (usually 10 hands to start). In a live game, the same warning for the first infraction and time off penalty going forward (usually 30 minutes to start).

Stan
Thanks Stan.

But why should a player in a tournament receive a warning and not a penalty for the first offense? The way that many people are, some people, knowing that the first time would warrant a warning, would do it in an attempt to angleshoot an opponent. And if they were warned, they would say, "Oh. Okay. Sorry." But if tournament players are penalized the first time, players who do it and hear about it are deterred from ever doing it again.

I'm sure that string raises, and tossing an oversized chip, without saying "Raise" (even though a player meant to raise), are handled by the rules every time, including the first time.

Just expressing my opinion in the hopes to make things even better at Borgata.
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09-16-2010 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
Thanks Stan.

But why should a player in a tournament receive a warning and not a penalty for the first offense? The way that many people are, some people, knowing that the first time would warrant a warning, would do it in an attempt to angleshoot an opponent. And if they were warned, they would say, "Oh. Okay. Sorry." But if tournament players are penalized the first time, players who do it and hear about it are deterred from ever doing it again.
The standard tournament ruling as per TDA rules is that when a player purposely exposes a card while there is still action, the rest of the hand is played out with the card exposed. Afterwards, the player that exposed the card is given a one orbit penalty. No warning should be given for a first offense.
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09-16-2010 , 05:52 PM
These rules are well known to all tournament players tho... An announcement at the beginning of the tournament and maybe the 1st break should be more than sufficient.
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09-16-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
These rules are well known to all tournament players tho... An announcement at the beginning of the tournament and maybe the 1st break should be more than sufficient.
But, if these rules are well known to all tournament players, as you say, why should an announcement be necessary or even appropriate?
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09-16-2010 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by spicytekkie
Apparently I MIGHT make a quick stop since my best friend wants to visit the Amphora Lounge tonight. And yes, that's nice a PLO list is starting. :-)

Mr. Stan, game report please? Thanks.
Time for a live game report Thursday 6:50pm


(42) Live games


(2) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE


(1) 1-2 PLO
(1) 10-20 Omaha H/L


(12) 1-2 NL
(11) 2-5 NL
(6) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-25 NL

Yesterday's Results

(949) Event #13 11am $170 + $30 NL (2 Re-Entry) $100,000 Guaranteed
(125) Event #36 1pm $500 + $50 Survivor
(143) Event #37 4pm $150 + $30 Act I (~1 in 5)
(215) Event #38 7pm $150 + $30 NL Tournament


Today's Events

(303) Event #14 11am $1500 + $150 NL Tournament
(257) Event #15 12pm $300 + $50 Seniors
(100) Event #39 1pm $200 + $30 NL Tournament
(188) Event #40 3pm $500 + $50 Survivor
(???) Event #41 7pm $175 + $25 Championship Event Qualifier (~1 in 20)

Tomorrow's Events

Event #16 11am $1000 + $90 6-Hand Max NL Tournament
Event #42 12pm $350 + $40 Championship Event Qualifier (~1 in 10)
Event #43 3pm $700 + $50 Championship Event Qualifier (~1 in 5) Act II
Event #44 6pm $350 + $40 Championship Event Qualifier (~1 in 10)
Event #44 9pm $500 + $50 Championship Event Qualifier (~1 in 7)


BBJP $156,181


Stan

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09-16-2010 , 07:41 PM
My stance on electronics is that you should be allowed to use them at the table, but they must be put down once you have either voluntarily entered a pot, or if you still have a hand while the flop is being dealt. It's obviously not perfect, but I think it's fair, prevents abuse, stops players from being distracted, and allows players to do what they wish while at the table.
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09-16-2010 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ashiXIII
My stance on electronics is that you should be allowed to use them at the table, but they must be put down once you have either voluntarily entered a pot, or if you still have a hand while the flop is being dealt. It's obviously not perfect, but I think it's fair, prevents abuse, stops players from being distracted, and allows players to do what they wish while at the table.
and see here I thought if your sitting at a poker table with chips in front of you - you are there to play poker. must be showing my age again as when i started playing poker that is just what we did played poker
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09-16-2010 , 08:40 PM
I just busted out of todays $200+30 on the stone post-bubble mincash and put myself on the 5-10 HOSE list. Was surprised to see it had 5 people on it, on a thursday no less. Let's do this!! My profits on the day are a mere 7 big bets away from disappearing
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09-16-2010 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ashiXIII
My stance on electronics is that you should be allowed to use them at the table, but they must be put down once you have either voluntarily entered a pot, or if you still have a hand while the flop is being dealt. It's obviously not perfect, but I think it's fair, prevents abuse, stops players from being distracted, and allows players to do what they wish while at the table.
So we can look at our hands and text them to one another as long as we put our phones down before we put a bet in?
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09-16-2010 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by p566
So we can look at our hands and text them to one another as long as we put our phones down before we put a bet in?
We can if any of the devices that have been discussed in this topic are allowed at the poker tables.
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09-17-2010 , 01:02 AM
As someone who reads from their phone while they play all the time, it is simple, put your phone face down before you look at your cards and while you have them. Once you fold go back to what you are doing.
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09-17-2010 , 02:32 AM
yeah and then the worst you can do is share information with friends at the table, talking about hands that went down and reads/info/etc about villians you are both playing against
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09-17-2010 , 03:18 AM
in my opinion, if people are going to cheat/share cards, there are a ton of other ways to do it other than text message. i feel like so many rules were made circa 1990 or something.

earlier today i was looking for music on my iphone (i didnt have my headphones on yet) and the dealer said "sir, no phones in the middle of a hand". i really didnt have much of a response back, so i put in headphones, and she didnt have a problem with it. pretty humorous.
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09-17-2010 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Grim Horse
As someone who reads from their phone while they play all the time, it is simple, put your phone face down before you look at your cards and while you have them. Once you fold go back to what you are doing.
Agreed. My point above was that your device needs to be down from the time before anyone looks at their cards until your cards are dead.

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Originally Posted by argablarg
yeah and then the worst you can do is share information with friends at the table, talking about hands that went down and reads/info/etc about villians you are both playing against
This can also happen on smoke breaks, bathroom breaks, and often simply by making comments at the table, sometimes during a hand (Ex: "I'm folding because I know you're tight" while others are still to act.) It's not just electronic devices.

I think exchanging information about the current hand is much worse than any discussion between hands that might occur electronically or otherwise.

BTW, my comments are general, not pointed at anything in particular at the Borgata.
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09-17-2010 , 10:28 AM
but u r not permitted to make comments about how others play in a multiway pot either.
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09-17-2010 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
but u r not permitted to make comments about how others play in a multiway pot either.
It would be great if more people knew this and played by this philosophy.
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09-17-2010 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by p566
So we can look at our hands and text them to one another as long as we put our phones down before we put a bet in?
only if you dont mind disqualifying a bad beat payout.

In general use your phone after you fold, and put it down when you are dealt your cards until you fold.

Your phone needs to be down before you LOOK at your cards. Anytime after is a no-no.

Good etiquitte is to make sure your phone is down when the dealer deals out the next hand, so noone has to tell you to wake up.

and in my opinion, the phone should not be sitting on the table.. just like the casino bans at table games.
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09-17-2010 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by p566
So we can look at our hands and text them to one another as long as we put our phones down before we put a bet in?
Firstly, I said it wasn't perfect.

Secondly, this is worst case scenario and the information is next to useless. I knew some nit was going to mention it.

Thirdly, It can be corrected by amending, "voluntarily entered a pot or still have a hand when the flop is dealt" to "looked at your hand" but the latter is much, much more difficult to spot and enforce and isn't worth the effort, thusly I think the first policy is better.

On top of that, if you think there are players at your 1/2 or 2/5 game that are texting each other their hole cards to cheat, you're delusional, and even if there happen to be that 1 time in a million, it's pretty easy to spot when the same 2 people (who you can probably tell are friends) each get a text every hand.

EDIT: I guess you can make it while players have a live hand, but I don't like that because 70%+ of the time, players are folding the first chance they get, and this number is probably even higher for someone preoccupied by texts or on the net, and it can occasionally take quite a bit of time before your first chance to fold.
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09-17-2010 , 03:15 PM
Game report please?

Also lots of rumors going around about remodeling the room (someone even mentioned a hot tub?!). Any Chan e of this affecting cash games or daily tournaments after the current tourney?
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