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Old 11-02-2013, 02:14 PM   #1376
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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I knew of one guy at this point and not other 2. Again my timeline could be off as it was over a year ago. We had phone conversations as well during this time. I am not trying to win a thread. I am trying to do what's right. If I am proven wrong I already said I will pay and apologize. No offense to anyone here but not going to spend my day on 2+2 answering questions of people not involved in the situation. I know you all want this gossip but I have agreed to pay if proven wrong and if not pay to charity so there is nothing more I need to discuss unless you have a stake in the situation.

The timeline is important because in your OP you made it seem like Jason was telling you "the boss" was pressuring him while simultaneously telling the other guys the boss had skipped town. You make no mention of a 5+ month delay between when you lost the bet and when the other guys contacted you.

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By this time jJason was telling me his boss was giving him tons of heat and I need to pay immediately or he would post on 2+2. Initially I didn't mention I knew he owed the other guys. I kept in conversation with the other guys and Jason was telling them that his boss skipped town and he couldn't pay them. At same time his "boss" is busting his chops to get my money. I finally confronted Jason about his outstanding debts and he told me his guy fleur skip town. The whole situation was shady and I talked about paying the other guys what I owed equally
Also, you say you didn't mention to Jason that you knew about the other debts, but sheets himself said he only reached out to you because Jason told him that you owed him money.

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Old 11-02-2013, 02:14 PM   #1377
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Chris, aren't you broke right now? How are you going to come up with 20k to pay this charity? And if you aren't broke, isn't that going to be a healthy percentage of your cash net worth right now?

I suggest you forget the charity angle and just get your own life in order.

But if you really do want to donate $20k to charity in lieu of paying Jason, make sure it is in YOUR name, so you can get the writeoff instead of him.

Also, tax tip for you:

If you were a net loser in gambling in 2013, I suggest waiting until January to make the donation, as that will allow you to write it off your 2014 taxes. If you had no taxable income in 2013, definietly wait until 2014, as that's just 2 months away.

LOL, You really think Chris didn't already think about this?

Think he's poker/gambling money broke and not actually cash broke.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:14 PM   #1378
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Chris, aren't you broke right now? How are you going to come up with 20k to pay this charity? And if you aren't broke, isn't that going to be a healthy percentage of your cash net worth right now?

I suggest you forget the charity angle and just get your own life in order.

But if you really do want to donate $20k to charity in lieu of paying Jason, make sure it is in YOUR name, so you can get the writeoff instead of him.

Also, tax tip for you:

If you were a net loser in gambling in 2013, I suggest waiting until January to make the donation, as that will allow you to write it off your 2014 taxes. If you had no taxable income in 2013, definietly wait until 2014, as that's just 2 months away.

My guess would be that Pokerstars have been all over this thread and it's them who have insisted that Chris make this donation to charity.

And if that is the case, and given Chris' financial situation, then I reckon there's a decent chance that Stars will be fronting the $$$$ for this noble gesture.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:17 PM   #1379
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Countdown to CM announcing his 15K donation to the Human Fund.
Money for people!
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:20 PM   #1380
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My guess would be that Pokerstars have been all over this thread and it's them who have insisted that Chris make this donation to charity.

And if that is the case, and given Chris' financial situation, then I reckon there's a decent chance that Stars will be fronting the $$$$ for this noble gesture.
Stars had not contacted me in any way about this and the charity was my idea. Jason contacted stars a few months ago to try and get paid and it failed.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:30 PM   #1381
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Stars had not contacted me in any way about this and the charity was my idea. Jason contacted stars a few months ago to try and get paid and it failed.

Fair enough. Just believe that this particular lesson shouldn't be costing you 20k.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:33 PM   #1382
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Stars had not contacted me in any way about this and the charity was my idea. Jason contacted stars a few months ago to try and get paid and it failed.
Lol, what a lowlife.

Owes out thousands to multiple people and trying to wreck the one guy that owes him by contacting his employer.

Look in the mirror before you throw stones.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:36 PM   #1383
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Stars had not contacted me in any way about this and the charity was my idea. Jason contacted stars a few months ago to try and get paid and it failed.

wow did he try to extort them using the threat of negative publicity?
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:36 PM   #1384
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Jason contacted stars a few months ago to try and get paid and it failed.
LOL, thread still delivers ...
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:43 PM   #1385
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

Chris, did you place the bets online like sheets? if so you should tell us what the web address is for the company.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:45 PM   #1386
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Chris, did you place the bets online like sheets? if so you should tell us what the web address is for the company.
no, don't do this.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:02 PM   #1387
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Stars had not contacted me in any way about this and the charity was my idea. Jason contacted stars a few months ago to try and get paid and it failed.
Wonder how JY would feel if Sheets and Assani contacted the others invested in his restaurant? This along with telling his debtors about MM and saying he owed 25k when it was a lot less makes it hard not to side with the lesser of two evils(MM).
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:07 PM   #1388
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

25K - He was just rounding up,
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Old 11-02-2013, 04:14 PM   #1389
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Does anyone else think that Bundy is JY's non-illiterate alter-ego?

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Old 11-02-2013, 04:27 PM   #1390
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Wow, I just realized Assani that you have over 46,000 posts on here.

Is that the most you've seen???

It's the most I have seen on here.

That's worth $2000 on its own, lol.
Hi there.

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Old 11-02-2013, 04:43 PM   #1391
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

Chris, have you consulted your decision about donating 20k (or so) to charity with the missus? Given some of your texts to Jason, there were other areas besides sports booking where mistakes have been made on your part. Just asking.
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Old 11-02-2013, 04:53 PM   #1392
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Old 11-02-2013, 05:02 PM   #1393
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Stars had not contacted me in any way about this and the charity was my idea. Jason contacted stars a few months ago to try and get paid and it failed.
WOW AND DOUBLE WOW!!!!

Jason listen man -regardless of whether you think Chris is 100% wrong in this, you are definitely not 100% right. How could you in good faith actually bother PokerStars with this??? You haven't paid Assani in 18 months. You have paid Sheets just $500 out of $8000 and there are probably other debts you owe as well. I'm sorry but doing that takes this to a new low. This whole thing is very sad.
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Old 11-02-2013, 05:11 PM   #1394
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

Jason and Chris here is the form you both need to fill out against each other.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/go/login?n=filereport.aspx
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Old 11-02-2013, 05:30 PM   #1395
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

I think the odds of MM actually sending the money to charity is miniscule.
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Old 11-02-2013, 05:46 PM   #1396
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

Can Chris play in the One Drop and write that off as his charity donation?
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Old 11-02-2013, 05:50 PM   #1397
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Can Chris play in the One Drop and write that off as his charity donation?
Do you think he has the money to enter one drop?
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:22 PM   #1398
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

Seems pretty obvious to me that neither of these degens had the means to pay the other if they lost the bet. They deserve each other.
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:34 PM   #1399
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

JY,

Since you won't acknowledge when your boss skipped out on you how about doing either of the following:

If your boss was around until October when Sheets and the others won why don't you post pics of texts/emails he sent you from April-October asking you for updates on the CM situation while blacking out his name/number/email address.

Or, why don't you post pics of texts/emails you sent him in the days/weeks after his disappearance?

Any of this evidence would go a long way to proving the boss existed while at the same time keeping his/your personal info confidential.
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:45 PM   #1400
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JY,

Since you won't acknowledge when your boss skipped out on you how about doing either of the following:

If your boss was around until October when Sheets and the others won why don't you post pics of texts/emails he sent you from April-October asking you for updates on the CM situation while blacking out his name/number/email address.


Or, why don't you post pics of texts/emails you sent him in the days/weeks after his disappearance?

Any of this evidence would go a long way to proving the boss existed while at the same time keeping his/your personal info confidential.
This +1. Will accept this as evidence also. Can send directly to me if dont want to put on forum
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