This part is hilarious too but it's important to mention that he was apparently never on the high stakes tables from having any poker skill whatsoever and grinding his way up through the stakes, he admitted himself he just luckboxed some tourneys and basically had a slow death as reality set in in the years after. Before going completely bust he apparently went all in on a restaurant upon realizing he couldn't hack it in poker anymore which I guess deserves some merit, if it weren't for being most likely a shady scammer as shown in this thread.

You're being called shady by people who are not kissing your ass hoping to collect on debts from you and able to view it in a more objective manner. It's clear that nobody ITT thinks you seem at all trustworthy or standup except for a few people who are pretty naive. Chris did say you know how to work your mouth piece on the phone. You mentioned having a long list of people waiting to come in here and vouche for you but the only people who came in to post were other debts you owe out and some other nobody friends of yours cheerleading with bad logic and emotionally charged arguments.

This is the part I find fascinating. Like, what world of delusion are these kinds of people living in? JY attempting to talk down to Kilowatt as though Kilowatt is some fanboy random without even realizing Kilowatt was actually a high stakes grinder and been around way long before JY luckboxed a few tourneys that financed his journey back to busto in the high stakes world. Kilowatt at least has done something noteworthy in the poker world with regards to the UB scandal. Who the F is JY? If you asked the majority of notable names or high stakes online players who they consider to have a better reputation and be more relevant very few, if any, would say JY, most have no idea who he even is. I'd say 99% of people in NVG didn't even know who he was but have learned a lot about him now from this thread and it's not pretty.

LOL, does anyone else wonder while reading these posts if someone like JY is just too stupid to follow all of the conversation and logic and therefore really believes he's proved a solid case, or that he's reading it and understanding it and is just a bad liar. Either way, so lol.

Your weird

I totally agree - Friday night, Sunday morning at 3 am - it's all the same at this point, this should be an IMMEDIATE TOP PRIORITY for Jason.

Just 1 man's opinion but I like andrewga's posts.

paid, not payed

honest mistake

Lesson of thread- do not threaten MM with blackmail as he has no issue beating you to the punch as evidenced by this and the other thread about his friend.

Tell us how you really feel sir

No seriously, I think this whole thread was summed up in this 1 post.

I understand your appreciation of the persons posts. My research has afforded me a different opinion.

For the record, I am aware of said thread.

lol

I know

Page 85 (for me)

Im going to bed now...

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It sucks you don't enjoy my posts since forty six & 2 is my second favorite song from my favorite band. Stinkfist being my favorite. We could have mixed our sauces and made a good goulash together.

Oh god... good night.

are you serious about this??? such a limited rational thinking if you ask me bro

Yes, I have to admit I was wrong. I free rolled you on the way to WU because I actually had a McDonalds coupon and $2 that I found under my car seats. I bought a happy meal with the money. It was a McDouble with cheese and fries and it was so ****ing tasty. It also came with a Buzz LiteYear collectible toy. Would you consider taking the Buzz LiteYear as payment for the outstanding debt? The arbitrators (Durrrr Jungleman) suggested that I could donate Buzz to the Toys for Tots Charity in your name to square up the debt. Great! I am going to take a picture of Buzz and post him on 2+2, Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, YouTube, AOL so everyone will know we are best buds. Crap, I have to go. My wife is pulling up to the McDonalds drive through and the kids might see me. I have been dodging them about the lawn mowing money. Peace Out!!! Talk to you in 18 months if 2+2 goes down. NVG Rules!!!

I doubt you'd be missed by anybody if you didn't post in this thread again.


Here's hoping you've got a very busy weekend to occupy your time.

DEBT CLEARED!!!!

See what happens when we both agree on an amicable solution????

Um, on a different note - do you know any bookies that could give me a 50k credit line??? I'm expecting some money real soon so I'm good for it. Thx Snip

Its not about us Dixie.



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PSU Mike you really have to stop posting. Everyone feels Assani should get paid. You typing in caps isnt going to do anything.

Having CM pay Assani is the same thing as having CM pay Jason. Jason would in turn pay Assani. Also the thought process that Assani's story saved CM ~15k therefor he should pay the 2200 to him is not logical.

To add?

I do work tomorrow .

Luv ya PSUMike
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Lol gn

Every time I read this thread lately:

Wow, I just spent 2 days reading this thread. Probably will be the only internet thread I remember for the rest of my life! Here are my thoughts. For the record I have never played any poker in my life outside of college games 30 years ago. I do not know any of you guys here at all except for one individual that asked me to read this thread 2 days ago. But, I have gambled on sports for 35 years so have seen/heard every degen story and witnessed freeroll attempts. I actually might have been freerolled a few years ago and this is how I handled my situation to give you some perspective on what I felt was right for me.

I was introduced to a bookie by an acquaintance who is not a gambler. The acquaintance knew I gambled on sports. I currently have 2 very big solid outs that receive all of my action. One of my guys has paid me close to $75,000 just in past year with never an issue; the other has paid me close to $40,000 so I was definitely not looking for a 3rd out, but I accepted this account primarily because of the relationship I have with the referral source. 6 months later I lose $3200 to the new guy. I learn that in the meantime from my acquaintance that his neighbor had won $50,000 on the LSU/Bama BCS game. Basically the neighbor bet $2000 on every Bama prop bet imaginable and crushed this guy. Bookie paid $22000 and told the neighbor he couldn't pay the rest. Well, I send him my $ monday morning before he even asked for it without a second thought because my debt is my debt. I do not mention to him that I know he is slowpaying the neighbor. Sort've want to win it back just out of principal.

Fast forward 1 year. I lose $4100 more. Feel annoyed now because I have won steadily from my other guys, but channel the losers to this guy. He texts me asking if I can meet him at end of week. In turn I call my acquaintance to see if his neighbor has been paid the $22,000 that has been owed for 1 1/2 years. Zip nothing.

So, at this point I could tell the bookie that I know he hasn't paid a $22,000 debt and until he does I won't pay him. But I feel this is the wrong thing for me to do. I made the bets. And I now had knowledge that he was not reliable when I made the bets. So, my fault. But I have to pay.

But, the bookie did not know that I knew he did not pay my acquaintance's neighbor.

So, I drove an hour to the acquaintance's office I handed him $4100. I replied to the bookie's text that I would be out of town at the end of this week but I was having lunch at the time with the referral source and I put the money in his hands to give to him. So, as it turns out the bookie allowed my friend to give it to his neighbor so the neighbor's balance is now $18000. If I wanted to be a degenerate, I could have used the knowledge of the neighbor's situation to get a free roll. I could have got into a pissing contest with the bookie about his integrity. I kept my mouth shut. I paid my debt, but in a way that I knew it would be likely that the bookie would have to turn over the money to the owed party. In the meantime I kept my honor. I will not play with this guy again.

In the sports gambling world there are a lot of guys that bet/accept bets first and come up with the stories second. yes, these are degenerate gamblers that will rationalize their behavior to satisfy their gambling needs.

MM made bets. I believe the right move is to pay. MM may feel differently.
To me, the bottom line is we must fully research a book BEFORE we make the decision to bet. I bet with an acquaintance's bookie, but I did not know for myself if he was solvent. I took the referral from my acquaintance at face value. My fault. I have to pay. My main guy has been booking for people I know for 35 years. His track record is impeccable. I did not need to accept this 3rd account. Once I did, I accepted the risk of being rolled.

MM accepted the risk when he accepted the relationship. It sucks big time, but the right move is to hold your head high and pay; and never play with Jason again.

Jason, you are a classic case of the guy that found himself in the situation of robbing Peter to pay Paul. You might not formulate ill intent. You might be a nice guy, but the bottom line is you can not have a sheet with players and just "hope" that the credits outweigh the debits. It does not work that way all of the time. Winners need to be paid and losers do not always pay on time. Insolvency and bookmaking are not a happily married couple. Good luck with your restaurant. Work hard. Do not place assets at risk you can not afford to lose. Especially your family and your business. They are your greatest assets outside of your health.

These conflicts stay with you your whole life if you are wrong or if you are right. People will always be on either side but if you end up doing something significant non-poker related this will always be a blemish. So if your upside in life isnt very much keep up this silly arguing. Only thing I do not get is if JY doesnt go out and works 110 hours a week why does he need a payment plan to pay off 2000.

No Internet in the US?