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Old 11-01-2013, 04:11 PM   #1126
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Wait! What???
yea, to clarify for those who may have missed it- when I'm suggesting that Chris pays me $2022, I'm saying that I will repay it(or send it to the charity) if/when Jason ever pays me. I'm certainly not trying to double collect on the money I"m owed, and I'll do what I need to prove myself if this is ever in doubt.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:15 PM   #1127
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

I think it benefits the thread if we try to have a dialog with JY rather than just calling him a ****ing ****. Keep it civil.

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Old 11-01-2013, 04:16 PM   #1128
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How would his chances be bigger? He has been stalled for 18 months.

This was honestly his best shot -- come out during a much bigger issue, say "Yeah, Jason owes me $2k", and hope it's worth $2k to Jason to quickly pay that in order to buy some credibility back.

I'd have done the same thing in Assani's shoes.
In our last email exchange JY told me that MM owes him money and that I would be getting paid once MM pays him(just re-read the email to verify this....he didn't specifically say it, but its very clearly implied). Therefore if I come into a thread and see MM about to pay, its probably not in my best interest to say anything.


Anyway, I'll drop it. I've said my part, I've tried to be as honest as possible, and I'll let Chris and/or popular opinion decide what to do. The one thing I do want to be clear is that I'm not at all trying to pressure MM here(and even if I was I don't think I succeeded, as nobody in the thread is saying that he would be wrong if he doesn't pay me)....I was just making a request, and I'll be completely cool with Chris regardless of his choice. If he would rather discuss things via PM I'm fine with that.

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Old 11-01-2013, 04:20 PM   #1129
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

cmon man, assani. its moneymaker vs jason young resolved then not resolved then resolved again...but not.

but dont start defending yourself. if cm gives it to charity you are still owned money by JY
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:23 PM   #1130
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btw, imma go with hard to explain, since mister Young doesnt answer my simple question
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:30 PM   #1131
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Assani? If you were not linked this thread, you owe JY. Your business is with JY. Nothing has changed.

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Old 11-01-2013, 04:32 PM   #1132
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Anyone willing to bet on Assani getting paid within 10 days? Willing to escrow.

I take the over.
I'll take the bet (on behalf of my bookie, who certainly is not JY). How does $2022 sound?
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:32 PM   #1133
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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His name is fairly irrelevant. I was just curious around what time in 2012 he left you out to dry?
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since jason is here and reading the thread. I dont know if its a dumb question or hard to explain.

as an agent you turn down money when people try to pay?
I'd love to get answers to these two questions.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:33 PM   #1134
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

What will Jasons next move be? I predict he will produce a fictional bookie, maybe a second cousin or something that he promises to pay if he can fraud mm out of 20k.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:37 PM   #1135
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What will Jasons next move be? I predict he will produce a fictional bookie, maybe a second cousin or something that he promises to pay if he can fraud mm out of 20k.
Don't worry, if he does this, there's an easy way to prove whether he's lying or not, which I won't reveal out here just yet.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:38 PM   #1136
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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I'll take the bet (on behalf of my bookie, who certainly is not JY). How does $2022 sound?
It turns out I can't escrow. Can my grandmother vouch for me?
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:46 PM   #1137
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

BTW, for any clowns in the NY area who are planning to go to the restaurant and screw with them because of Jason, don't.

Jason, by his own admission, is just an investor. He doesn't outright own it.

We don't know how much he owns, but I bet it's a small percentage, unless he inherited it or something.

You can own less than 1% and still legally call yourself an "owner".

He said something about working 110 hours per week, but I bet if you called there at a different random time all seven days this upcoming week, and asked for him, he wouldn't be there.

I have no information to back this up, but it's just a vibe I'm getting.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:47 PM   #1138
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He said something about working 110 hours per week, but I bet if you called there at a different random time all seven days this upcoming week, and asked for him,
That is a good idea.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:47 PM   #1139
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Don't worry, if he does this, there's an easy way to prove whether he's lying or not, which I won't reveal out here just yet.
And who here is questioning your credibility?

Both these cats are looking like goofballs.

Your starting to seem one sided again.

I find it interesting OP is pretty semi non existent ITT. Especially when it gets juicy.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:52 PM   #1140
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That is a good idea.
And no it is not... for plenty of reasons.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:52 PM   #1141
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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BTW, for any clowns in the NY area who are planning to go to the restaurant and screw with them because of Jason, don't.

Jason, by his own admission, is just an investor. He doesn't outright own it.

We don't know how much he owns, but I bet it's a small percentage, unless he inherited it or something.

You can own less than 1% and still legally call yourself an "owner".

He said something about working 110 hours per week, but I bet if you called there at a different random time all seven days this upcoming week, and asked for him, he wouldn't be there.

I have no information to back this up, but it's just a vibe I'm getting.

After this last post, I am guessing that JY will be disappearing from this thread very shortly.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:52 PM   #1142
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And no it is not... for plenty of reasons.
In your opinion.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:53 PM   #1143
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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And who here is questioning your credibility?

Both these cats are looking like goofballs.

Your starting to seem one sided again.

I find it interesting OP is pretty non existent ITT. Especially when it gets juicy.
I am one-sided in that I think Jason is wrong here.

I am not one-sided in that I had no bias toward either party. I don't know Jason, and I am not friends with Chris.

I have been pointing out where Chris was wrong here -- the fact that he was ALSO shady by freerolling his end of the bet. I called Chris out for this BEFORE Jason posted those texts confirming it.

However, Chris isn't the one asking for money. It's Jason asking for money.

Since Jason will not give ANY evidence that his "bookie" exists, and also will not provide ANY evidence that he was solvent at the time of the bet, the whole thing should be VOID, and neither of them should owe each other anything.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:55 PM   #1144
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

This thread just keeps getting better and better! Jason you aren't coming off very good IMO. Just admit the business took up way more of your money than you had planned for, that there was never really a bookie (theres no way an agent can make the call to roll 5k by the way, unless you guys have a settle number like in the five figures which is unheard of), apologize and work towards paying the people owe back. Then you can put this behind you, you can stop pretending you're a real gambler and you can move on with your life.

And for god sake learn how to write a godamn sentence.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:57 PM   #1145
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Set me up with a dozen legitimate accounts. If that happens, I'll be at your place within 20 mins with enough cash to cover all your outstanding debts.
ALSO THIS +1. Id like to get in on this too. Would take me more than 20 minutes though.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:57 PM   #1146
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And who here is questioning your credibility?

Both these cats are looking like goofballs.

Your starting to seem one sided again.

I find it interesting OP is pretty semi non existent ITT. Especially when it gets juicy.
u don't know who you're talking to mate. this is the man who uncovered the superusers of UB pay the man some respect!
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:59 PM   #1147
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by the way, jason is a yankee fan. thats pretty damning evidence in MM's favor imo
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Old 11-01-2013, 05:04 PM   #1148
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u don't know who you're talking to mate. this is the man who uncovered the superusers of UB pay the man some respect!
No no no... I know exactly who I am typing with. You sir, do not understand.
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Old 11-01-2013, 05:06 PM   #1149
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

for the record, I once again have sent out a message to a friend(on skype this time) asking to take Jason's transfer via Wells Fargo or Chase. I am awaiting reply. I have asked 2 people so far, and I will ask more if necessary. It is annoying that I'm having to figure out a solution to this when the bet stated that he would pay via BoA, but I'll keep trying. Some people have expressed reservations about giving Jason banking info and they want to make sure that its safe first*, which may be one reason for any delays. Or if Jason can find a 3rd party to send a Stars transfer then that would work too.


*Can someone tell me the information that you can SAFELY give out for Wells Fargo or Chase? I think if multiple people ITT confirm that one method is perfectly safe that may expedite the process. I've only ever used BoA, so I have no clue.
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Old 11-01-2013, 05:06 PM   #1150
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And who here is questioning your credibility?

Both these cats are looking like goofballs.

Your starting to seem one sided again.

I find it interesting OP is pretty semi non existent ITT. Especially when it gets juicy.
yeah thread is juicy. im refreshing while listening music and drinking beer

and it aint interesting at all, cause mr young is taking a beating and you only block when you are under attack. mr young is gone too btw guess he thrown the towel. to many **** he coulndt answer to.

moneymaker was probably right for the wrong reason. it happens
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