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12-10-2011 , 12:05 AM
2/5 plo running. 6 each on the list for 5/10 and 10/20 plo.
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12-10-2011 , 06:38 AM
Made it! Finished Day 1A of the main event with 20 players remaining to return on Sunday. With close to 200K in chips, I'm set up for a decent run at the top prizes (150K is chip average).

It was a bit disappointing that there were only 107 entrants for Day 1A. I thought it would be a full field, or close to it. Maybe players don't like unannounced capricious changes to the rules after all.

For instance, about midway through the day I asked Adam if it were still the case that we would be playing all the way until the end of the 15th level for the day. He told me that it would be either that or until 20% of the field is left - specifically 21 players.

At three tables left, I kept hearing that we would play to 20 players left, so I asked the TD (don't know his name). He said yes, either end of 15th level or 20 players left. I told him Adam had told me 21 players. He said that they were rounding down because 110 players would be 21 so they were rounding down to 20. I pointed out that 110 players would be 22, and 20% of 107 players is 21 rounded down. He said that regardless Adam and Tim had a meeting earlier in the day and decided it would be 20 players and that was what he was told.

Later, at 21 players and ten minutes left in Level 15, the TD stopped the tournament clock and announced that we would play just 5 more hands and then end for the day. About half way through that, a player busted to take it to 20 players and the TD ended the tournament.

The dealers were good, but the TDs and floor managers left much to be desired. In the last few hours of play, four players were moved from our table by three different TDs/Managers. The first time, UTG +1 was taken; next time it was UTG; next time it was BB; next time it was UTG again.

Chipping up had a strange arbitrary rule, too. The person who bought up all the chips was excluded from the chip race if they had extra low-denomination chips. Of course, this only happened once - at the very last chip up of the day. When I said something, the TD said that's the way they do it and had been doing it all day. Baloney. (I bought up the $25 chips at my table, and was included in the chip race for my extras.)

I'd appreciate it if someone would post later today how many players are in Day 1B (the clock shows total entrants for both days).

I wonder if they will round up to 20 players left if there are only 91 entrants.
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12-10-2011 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerployment
How many people did day 1a get today?
107.

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Originally Posted by I_BLADE_U
142 for day 1a
The clock shows seats sold for both Day 1A and 1B. It was at 166 when I left last night at 11:30p: 107 for Day 1A; 59 so far for 1B.
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12-10-2011 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
Made it! Finished Day 1A of the main event with 20 players remaining to return on Sunday. With close to 200K in chips, I'm set up for a decent run at the top prizes (150K is chip average).

It was a bit disappointing that there were only 107 entrants for Day 1A. I thought it would be a full field, or close to it. Maybe players don't like unannounced capricious changes to the rules after all.

For instance, about midway through the day I asked Adam if it were still the case that we would be playing all the way until the end of the 15th level for the day. He told me that it would be either that or until 20% of the field is left - specifically 21 players.

At three tables left, I kept hearing that we would play to 20 players left, so I asked the TD (don't know his name). He said yes, either end of 15th level or 20 players left. I told him Adam had told me 21 players. He said that they were rounding down because 110 players would be 21 so they were rounding down to 20. I pointed out that 110 players would be 22, and 20% of 107 players is 21 rounded down. He said that regardless Adam and Tim had a meeting earlier in the day and decided it would be 20 players and that was what he was told.

Later, at 21 players and ten minutes left in Level 15, the TD stopped the tournament clock and announced that we would play just 5 more hands and then end for the day. About half way through that, a player busted to take it to 20 players and the TD ended the tournament.

The dealers were good, but the TDs and floor managers left much to be desired. In the last few hours of play, four players were moved from our table by three different TDs/Managers. The first time, UTG +1 was taken; next time it was UTG; next time it was BB; next time it was UTG again.

Chipping up had a strange arbitrary rule, too. The person who bought up all the chips was excluded from the chip race if they had extra low-denomination chips. Of course, this only happened once - at the very last chip up of the day. When I said something, the TD said that's the way they do it and had been doing it all day. Baloney. (I bought up the $25 chips at my table, and was included in the chip race for my extras.)

I'd appreciate it if someone would post later today how many players are in Day 1B (the clock shows total entrants for both days).

I wonder if they will round up to 20 players left if there are only 91 entrants.
Really end of round 15? One of my main reasons for not entering was the structure sheet said end of round 18..... which for me 3hr round trip would mean I need to rent a hotel room somewhere..... The other reason was the starting chip stack... Dam this is Florida our regular tournaments are other peoples deep stacks I get just as many chips and as good if not better blind structure for $75 Wed nights @ the rock!
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12-10-2011 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigstu
Really end of round 15? One of my main reasons for not entering was the structure sheet said end of round 18..... which for me 3hr round trip would mean I need to rent a hotel room somewhere..... The other reason was the starting chip stack... Dam this is Florida our regular tournaments are other peoples deep stacks I get just as many chips and as good if not better blind structure for $75 Wed nights @ the rock!
You can see further up itt that the room rep announced the change to End of Round 15. Of course, if I hadn't read it here I never would have known. Didn't see any info on it in the room, except they had new blind sheets printed up and available the day of.

Not sure what you mean about better chip stacks. We had 30K starting stacks, and 40 min. blinds.
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12-10-2011 , 01:08 PM
240 total so far for days 1 and 2
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12-10-2011 , 06:29 PM
what were the biggest cash games running last night? in other words what can i expect tonight?
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12-10-2011 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
what were the biggest cash games running last night? in other words what can i expect tonight?
10/20NL.
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12-11-2011 , 12:52 AM
Anyone know how many played Main Event Day 1B today, and how many are advancing to Day 2 from it?
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12-11-2011 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
Anyone know how many played Main Event Day 1B today, and how many are advancing to Day 2 from it?
243 total entrants (for both days)

some monkey just check jammed JJ on a AQ6 board, I tank called him with A7 and river obv a jack for 140k. huge sigh.
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12-11-2011 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by People_Mover
243 total entrants (for both days)

some monkey just check jammed JJ on a AQ6 board, I tank called him with A7 and river obv a jack for 140k. huge sigh.
That sucks!

Thanks for the info.
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12-11-2011 , 06:35 PM
I heard the promo for January is $150 gas card each week for 20 hours played Monday-Thursday. You can earn 4 cards for the month if you play the hours each week.
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12-11-2011 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
I heard the promo for January is $150 gas card each week for 20 hours played Monday-Thursday. You can earn 4 cards for the month if you play the hours each week.
Yay.
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12-12-2011 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
That sucks!

Thanks for the info.
PX,

How did you end up?
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12-12-2011 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid_Scam
PX,

How did you end up?
I finished 20th, in the money: $5.6K. Card dead all day. Went out with 99 vs. AQ. My best four starting hands for the day (4 hours of play): AK, KK, 99, A9s. Not a single other pair. AK I doubled up, but after down half my chip stack from blinds, antes and losing with A9s. KK I had on the bubble, went all-in and no call - BB chip leader folded his Ace - glad I just open shoved at that point. Everything else was fold until my shove with 99 in the BB after a raise to 6.5K from EP. I only had about 120K with blinds at 600/12K/2K. Can't complain that much though - it was a great run and satisfying cash.

On to Derby - Tuesday's Holdem/PLO WPT event next for me.
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12-12-2011 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
I finished 20th, in the money: $5.6K. Card dead all day. Went out with 99 vs. AQ. My best four starting hands for the day (4 hours of play): AK, KK, 99, A9s. Not a single other pair. AK I doubled up, but after down half my chip stack from blinds, antes and losing with A9s. KK I had on the bubble, went all-in and no call - BB chip leader folded his Ace - glad I just open shoved at that point. Everything else was fold until my shove with 99 in the BB after a raise to 6.5K from EP. I only had about 120K with blinds at 600/12K/2K. Can't complain that much though - it was a great run and satisfying cash.

On to Derby - Tuesday's Holdem/PLO WPT event next for me.
Congrats on the cash.... Being card dead sucks.
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12-12-2011 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by andymalman
Congrats on the cash.... Being card dead sucks.
Indeed. But it's still my best cash to date, so I'm happy with it.

One more example of the TD nonsense that goes on at the HR:

When we got to the money line, we redrew for seats (as posted in the rules). During this process, the player whose seat I was taking and who had a top stack was allowed to swap his seat nine for a middle seat with another player. I asked my dealer about it and she said that it was done because he had trouble seeing.

At break, I had a chance to ask Adam about it. He said that when a player has a problem like with sight or a broken leg or something, they tried to accommodate it. So, I asked him if this player had an actual physical disability with his eyes. Adam said yes, he has a problem with his sight.

Later, this same player was moved to the table I was on - into seat 2. He had no such physical disability, and no apparent trouble seeing. In fact, he had a normal pair of eyeglasses, which he was wearing up on his head instead of on his eyes.

I think he was just an older guy who complained that he had a hard time seeing if he was at the end of the table, so instead of enforcing normal rules they gave him what he wanted. More HR bs.

Oh, and by the way, Day 1B played down all the way to the end of Level 15 even though it was three players beyond 20% remaining. This meant that the Day 1B players came in with a bigger average chip stack than the Day 1A players. Just another mistake by the TD - but of course they are never wrong at the HR. I'm sure Adam has an explanation at the waiting for anyone who asks about it.
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12-12-2011 , 09:58 AM
it isn't like anyone else's TDs are any better in the area.
Fun one from Derby yesterday:
UTG raises to 450.
Button puts in a 1k chip and two $25 chips. Dealer announces raise. Blinds fold.
NOW button complains that it isn't a raise he was just making it easy for the dealer to make change.
I call the floor, floor rules in his favor ????!!!!!

Also except for the BLHE/PLO and main event the strucures at Derby are a joke... but they are giving out trophies
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12-12-2011 , 10:42 AM
Zombie, totally agree with you on this. This tournament not the usual structure which sucked because I was expecting 75/150 and now that whole skipped level puts my strategy at a disadvantage... Although I never got to play strategy in the 255 which sucked... But I did survive half the field.

As for the one chip rule, derby has to start enforcing it. I had to be a rule cop when a player that was knocked out came back to the same seat, which is against derbys rules, and got murdered by the table... The two times people put out chips to make change I kept my mouth shut. Someone needs to talk to management about that.

Hey I think you were at my wifes table yesterday for the 255... She mentioned a person who chopped event 1, so I washed it was you. She was the woman who made a call with pocket 10s and later got eliminated by a straight after shoving the flop with 2 pair. Not sure if you were there for all that. Well heading to the rock for the high hand and going to grind Omaha high low. Hey its eligible :-)
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12-12-2011 , 11:00 AM
I got knocked out pretty quick on both my entries so I didn't get any names or fun hands.
After I saw the lolstructure I knew it was going to be move it or lose it as far as my strategy.
I was either going to attract lots of chips going through some big floats/bluffs/soul reading or I was going busto and rebuying a 20BB stack to push fold with.

Almost definitely not playing tonight. very disappointed.
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12-12-2011 , 11:19 AM
6 max is a tournament that I like a shorter structure.... Play should be open from the start so I want to be able to punish those waiting for good holdings. I played in a few and done well, I might head there after grinding here for awhile, love to hit a high hand and freeroll tonight.
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12-12-2011 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerZombie
it isn't like anyone else's TDs are any better in the area.
Fun one from Derby yesterday:
UTG raises to 450.
Button puts in a 1k chip and two $25 chips. Dealer announces raise. Blinds fold.
NOW button complains that it isn't a raise he was just making it easy for the dealer to make change.
I call the floor, floor rules in his favor ????!!!!!

Also except for the BLHE/PLO and main event the strucures at Derby are a joke... but they are giving out trophies
Yeah, that's definitely a bad decision, since further action had taken place. I do like the dealers better at HR than Derby - the Derby dealers are good at dealing but a lot of them spend more time chatting with the players during play than keeping the action going. But I still find overall the TD/floor decisions are much better at Derby, and the overall running of the tournament is better too. Tourney structures are a horse of a different color. For really good ones, check out the WSOP series coming to Palm Beach in February.
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12-12-2011 , 06:02 PM
Anyone playing at THR today? Is the $1,200/hr high hand promo bringing them in droves so far? I play mostly 1/3 but will play 2/5 or ghast the 50 BB red headed step child 1/2 if the games are good, anyone there? thank you.
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12-12-2011 , 06:12 PM
Xanadu can you get me a link? For some reason I am googlefailing right now and can't find it.
I'd also like to know how the cash action is this week. I'm giving up on Derby's WPT. i just don't like the turbo early stages. They are too important imo. Gives me time to chip up against the weak players so I can abuse them with a decent stack come anteing time.
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12-12-2011 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerZombie
Xanadu can you get me a link?
Here is the schedule of events:
http://www.wsop.com/tourney/tourneyd...sp?groupID=857

They don't have up the tournament structures yet, but here are a couple from last year:
http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/WSOPC/2010/11417-structure.pdf
http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/WSOPC/2010/11433-structure.pdf

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