Let me start out by saying I always tip after every hand in poker. But the thing about dealers that has always annoyed me is (especially back jack) when you are losing dealers say its the cards. But when you win they don't say its the cards... Kinda a double standard.

Quick datapoint: wednesday the pink chip game was going all day, with two tables running for a few hours.

There was also a pink chip o8 that ran throughout the evening. not bad for a weekday.

If anyone had to guess, what do you think would be the ballpark for entrants in tomorrows 50k gtd.?

sunday comped, mon-wed $59 poker rate, thurs $79 poker rate

cheap mo'fos...

and that last part... wonder if it was the same guy as in the blog post about the last jackpot hit...

I was part of a BBJ over the 4th of July weekend, when 2 hit on the same day, i was the winner of the hand in the 2nd one, total was about 82k and there was a player who had went to the bathroom and didn't get dealt in, anyone with any type of class should understand that if it wasn't for that "one" player who didn't get dealed in, it would have never hit, I came off with 16k, loser of the hand got 33k, and the other 7 players got a little under 5k, during the 90-120 minutes of the floor reviewing everything behind the scenes, I'm discussing with the loser of the hand how much we should tip the dealer, i heard it's customary to tip 5% so I agreed to give $800 and I advised him that it would only be right to give about $1600, of course, he didn't want to, long story short, I tipped the dealer $800, and gave the dude who didn't get dealed in $300, which most of the other players did as well, you can't be cheap with these things, I frequent the Borgata quite often and you don't want for the floor and dealers who see you all the time, look at you as that "cheap" guy

Not just cheap, NASTY! And talk about cheap, omg, a guy hits the BBJ at the Taj, gets the Lions share, and tips the dealer...$20. I'd rather give 0 and let the dealer think that I had a complete brain freeze.


And I have no idea if it was the same guy from the blog, but I did overhear him say something to his buddy about getting thrown out of Caesars', for what, who cares.

Can someone tell me about the borgata poker room rate for sunday? Is it FREE? I heard someone hear mention its 39 dollars on monday-wednesday and 79 for thursday but COMPED for sunday?

Would i have to call borgata first and tell them i will play 4 hours or 6 hours and then go and play it?

Like I said earlier, you give what you feel like giving--I don't like to measure ones generousity. That said, and this is just to let you know, 5% is not customary. It's more like 3%.

Man, I don't know about "cheap" and "class", but I doubt if I'm throwing off 10% of my profit back in.



figure the taxes...

Figure the taxes, indeed.

i asked a dealer what he would expect if the bbjp hit a month ago at Borgata. I think it was around 100k. He said he would expect $5k from the guy who got the most money. seriously? $5k? no chance id give that much

That dealer is smoking some good stuff.

If I knew the dealer to be very good, then I can see myself giving as much as $1k. But no higher than that, and most likely $500 to a dealer I don't know or know not to be good.

*disclaimer: obviously tip what you want. If you want to give $5k, then by all means. Who cares what I would tip, and I really don't care what others tip. A dealer's expectation, though, of $5k is ridiculous.

Your going to have to call and figure it out.

Most of us here play at the Borg on a regular basis, so we get comped rooms (yes just from poker) and lower than the poker rate for other nights.

So the answers from us would vary greatly

(that or PM stan, to see if he can help you out at all)

Cutting the guy who went to smoke/ go to the bathroom in on the BBJ is ridiculous. By buying into the idea that "it wouldn't have hit if he didn't go pee", you would essentially be giving lots of people cuts of the BBJ.

Ever since the cards got changed on that table, every single player who has been dealt a hand since those cards have been in play, even if they are on their way home now, deserves a cut according to this thinking. The way the cards have been mucked, who played what hand and in what order, etc., etc. all contributed to the bad beat hitting.

I would never expect to be given a piece of the jackpot if I were the one who was taking a break when it hit. I won't turn down free money if people really want to give it to me, either.

Not only that- why would you work there, then? If you're expecting four figure tips, won't you be horribly pissed off for getting "only" hundreds of dollars out of the blue?

Very weird expectation

Maybe an angle by the dealer to try to wrangle a bigger tip if it hits?

In whose opinion is usually and/or customary to give 100? Should be 3% minimum. Got to pay it forward. Someone drops 100k in my lap they are getting at least 3-5k (depends on their attitude and job performance) and the rest of the dealers in the room will get a green bird.

Maybe I'm cheap but there's no way I'm giving up 5K....maybe 3K. I wouldn't dream of giving $500 either but I'd find a happy medium between that and 5K.

Would you drop some cash on the guy that has been grinding for 5 hours and gets up to take a pee and misses 2 hands including the BBJ? I don't see how you (you meaning a BBJ winner, not actually taaemt) can't throw him some cash.


Can't wait for Sund. I'll be over at around 11am. Hope the PCO8 is running.

so wait....the dealer didn't do anything differently than they do every hand. How does the fact that the cards came out in a certain way entitle them to thousands of my dollars? THey did the same work they did every other hand

report please....thanks

I guess this is one of the reasons that I will never be able to quit my day job. I am overly appreciative when someone does something nice for me whether it be to a waitress who makes my tea a certain way with out attitude, a dealer who ships me a larger pot than normal or puts me on a roll with several shipped pots in a row. Same way I guess that when I go to eat and tip based on the bill. Seems interesting to me that people have no quams in tipping a waitress 10% to 20% of their bill, yet when a dealer does a great job (meaning dealt a hand without making a mistake thereby voiding the bad beat) and I get a huge payday that I give them 3% to 5% depending on how much I win AND how much I like that dealer. You might say that they are both just doing their job - which is true - but they are both tipped employees which means they make less than minimum wage and that a major part of their income is based on tips. Imagine how you would feel when you get your check at the end of the week for less than $10 after taxes (yes they too pay taxes on their tips) and benefits; and then someone says why should we tip him anything he was just doing his job. How many people out there would work day in and day out knowing that that bring home 25 cents an hour?

And the tax issue consequence....I will pay taxes on winning 100k everyday of the year and never pitch a @itch -- I will still walk away with a nice chunk of change.

So by your theory, if you go out to dinner and order a salad and a coke, and the bill comes to $15, how much of a tip are you leaving the waiter? $3-5 about? What if, at the same restaraunt you order lobster tails and an extremely rare cavier, and the bill comes out to $600, how much would you leave then? You'd probably leave the same $3-5, right? I mean, why wouldn't you, it's not as if he prepared the food, he just happened to be the one who was serving a person who had very exquisette taste, and, it doesn't take any more effort for the waiter to carry a couple of dishes of lobster and cavier than it does a salad and a glass of coke.

So, I guess if you ever hit a BBJ, we can expect for you to give the dealer a $1 because anything more than that (even $2) would be going against everything you believe in. Taking it one step further....why tip the dealer at all? If he's not entitled to thousands (and I'm not saying that he should be) then why give him $1 every time you win a pot? Do you know how much that amounts to each year if you're a regular player? THOUSANDS of dollars.

I'm somewhere in the middle of these two but admittedly closer to the low side.

I'd rather go around and give 60 dealers a black bird each than give my guy/girl 5K. Like me, that dealer just happened to be sitting at the table during that particular hand pitching out 20 cards and turning 5 face up. If a guy playing 10-25 NLHE flops a set of Aces and gets stacked for $12K by a gutshot-flush draw that gets there, did the dealer do a bad job dealing? Of course not. A hand is a hand...there was no "extra service". Nobody "went that extra mile".

If a player wins 20K and wants to give the dealer $100, i wouldn't look at him with a crooked eye. I mean between the 10 players at the table, the dealer is prob gonne get like 2,500 at least...that's an amazing day. Expecting even 2K from one person is beyond ridiculous.

Considering 10 people at the table: the 8 not involved in the hand get 5% of the jackpot. A dealer thinks they also deserve 5%?? GTFO here.

If you win a $100 pot and tip $2, that's perfectly fine IMO. If you win 100K and tip $1,500 or $2K....equally as fine. No way i'd approach 3%.

I'm not saying tip $100 or tip $5K. Either is fine. I'm just saying, don't look down on people that chose to tip 1% or less.

It all comes down to personal opinion and that's why it's really not worth elaborating on any further...

That being said....

GAME REPORT TO KICK OFF THE WEEKEND??

if i ever hit the bad beat jackpot, im not sure exactly what i'd tip the dealer, but i'd probly throw somewhere between $100-$500 to stan for running an awesome room

...with that said, i'll never hit the BBJP because i play 20/40 and 40/80