I can assure you that there is a heck of a lot more work in the service needed at an upscale restauraut vs. a pizza joint or the equivalent - So yes, the tip is consequently larger. Do you give more than $1 on the BBJ? Sure because it is the nice thing to do - Several thousand dollars is WELL beyond the nice and decent thing to do. If everybody tipped $100 that's $1k for dealing a hand of poker...not half bad

I said it was the same restaraunt so the service would be the same. And, it's irrelevant even if it does take more work to prepare lobster than it does a salad because the person serving you isn't the one who is doing the task.

About the BBJ: I don't agree that everyone should pony up the same amount-----if the table agrees on 1k for the dealer, and you netted the most at $83k and I netted 8k, I think it would be more fair if you gave ~$400, the winner of the hand:$200, and the eight of us give $50.

The more I think of it, the less I think the dealer should receive *IF* you play several times a week+ because just sitting at a BBJ game would have to be factored in because you'd be losing tons of $ playing in games that had a drop. personally, I do not sit in these games, but it's not because of the drop, I just don't play HE with any regularity. Now, when the average Joe comes to play about 4-5 times a year and gets lucky to hit one of these things....then when he wins, he really wins.

Having been a waitress/bartender in the past (and I enjoyed it cause I liked meeting people granted I was much younger then and not so grumpy). I can honestly say that I think it is harder to sit at a table for 30 minute stretchs of time and listen to drunks whine, FOPs complain, get stiffed and not go off. Just know that none of these professions are right for me now and that I appreciate their efforts in making my life more enjoyable and therefore I tend to tip way to much but it is my choice. I realize that I tip way too much to dealers and am constantly told this by my poker pals.

The point I was trying to make is that some people do not realize that poker dealers are considered tiped employees therefore they make below minimum wage and are taxed on their tips. Just wanted to inform the uninformed.

Time for a live game report Friday 3:30pm

(3) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(1) 7.50-150 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(2) 40-80 LHE

(1) 7.50-15 Stud H/L (Full Game)
(1) 7.50-15 Omaha H/L
(1) 10-20 O.E.
(1) 150-300 O.E.
(1) 600-1200 H.O.S.E

(1) 30-60 Stud
(1) 75-150 Stud

(16) 1-2 NL
(11) 2-5 NL
(4) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-25 NL

(267) 12pm $300 + $40 NL Tourny

BBJP $81,936

Stan

267 runners in the tourney!?
600-1200 HOSE!? holla atcha BOY STAN!
ohhh baby that's action!

OMG, Stud-8 Pink now too?????

"I think it moved..."

Stan, could you please provide some (pre-4th street) game specifics?

$1 Ante, $2.50 bring, $7.50 complete?

5% up to $4 rake?

Thanks

You had all of the answers all along!

Stan

There had been talk of whether the pink hold'em would hurt the other limit HE games....and I'm sure whether the Pink O8 and Stud-8 would hurt the 10-20 OE.

Know what it's killed for me? 1-2 and 2-5 NL. After playing Pink O8 (and hopefully the S-8 version this weekend) NLHE is soooooooooo boring.

I played the pink O8 til it broke last sat then played 1-2 NLHE from like 12:30am til 5AM and damn it was boring.

Obv those games aren't taking players from the NLHE tables...I'm just saying they have temporarilly runined NLHE for me...and I am MORE than OK with that.

I'm loving every second of the pink "other games" experience

Wow, a pure Stud H/L game, I want in.

There's just something about pink chips that makes people totally lose their minds. I'm long past the days of low-limit grinding but I recommend the Pink experience to everyone. It can't be beaten!

Hey Stan I posted this while you were on vacation (not sure if you missed it or not):

is there a list for plo starting up?

The game is going, 1-2 PLO

Stan

percentage isn't important- cash amount is.

You do realize that a tip for the dealer is deductible from you BBJ, right? For example, you win $100,000, you tip the dealer $3000, but it's like you're only tipping around $2000 after taxes because that's what you would have of the $3000 after taxes, if you did not tip.

I'm not a tax advisor, and this is not tax advice, and you should contact your tax advisor for more information, if you're interested.

It's a good thing you are not a tax advisor because that's not true at all. You WILL pay taxes on the entire amount you win regardless of how much you tip.

game update stan?

Time for a live game report Friday 8:25pm

(2) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(1) 7.50-150 LHE
(3) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(2) 40-80 LHE

(1) 7.50-15 Stud H/L
(1) 10-20 O.E.
(1) 150-300 O.E.
(1) 600-1200 H.O.S.E

(1) 30-60 Stud
(2) 75-150 Stud

(18) 1-2 NL
(12) 2-5 NL
(5) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-25 NL

(267) 12pm $300 + $40 NL Tourny
(90) 4pm $100 + $20 NL Tourny

BBJP $81,936

Stan

Wow, there's a pink s8, but no pink o8. weird.

You enter a tournament with an entry fee of $1,000, finish in the money and receive $200 for your efforts. You tip the dealers $20.00.

With respect to this transaction what is your gambling loss?

a). . . . . . . .$1,000

b) . . . . . . . . $800

c). . . . . . . . . $820

d) . . . . . . . . . . $0

The answer to my question above is "d", 0.
You don't have a loss. You actually have a win of $200.

Here is how it works. On Schedule C, line, 1 Gross receipts, you would report income of $200. On page 2, in Part V you would list the following expenses:

a) Entry Fees . $1,000

b) Gifts . . . . . . . . . $20

You would then deduct your expenses, which are not gambling losses, from your Gross Income and show a loss of $820. This is a regular loss and not a gambling loss which is limited to gambling winnings.

http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/...le.php?id=1894

Does anyone here know who plays in the 600-1200 H.O.S.E game? My goodness. Also are regular people allowed to look outside because i assume this table in the high stakes area? Is it generally 9 or 10 player seating? What stakes in limit and no limit are in the high limit area?

The game is played in the high limit area. You can observe the game from outside the of the room.

Stan

Just a side note about the 600-1200 H.O.S.E, it is actualy a seven game rotation. It's just easier for me to put H.O.S.E. The game is really the following

600-1200 Hold'em
600-1200 Omaha 8
600-1200 Stud
600-1200 Stud 8
600-1200 Stud H/L no qualifier
50-100 PLO
100-200 NL

Stan

I can afford to post the small blind for one hand.


More importantly, there is a tropical storm outside, light traffic all the way down from Brooklyn. Light traffic in AC...