IIRC, the dealers did this when I played the pcg lhe.

Really bro...???

I've sat at a pink chip table on Friday evening, to finish donking off my money. I don't know what the hell happened to it, the average age at the table must've been about 150. I was afraid that swapping the time charge for the rake did this to the game, but it sounds like it was just bad timing on my part.

Friday's game was overly heavy with the locals. Kind of how it was, back in the day at the Trop. Last week, it was significantly more wild & wooly.

My wife is still somewhat confused about the sup bro reference but relayed the message to me. I explained to her the evolution of the code word from brown trout to sup bro? and she just shook her head and said she'd remember to pass along the hello in the future from anyone else who says it at the table.

If you played with her Saturday night, I'm sure you saw me stop by the table a few times (once to complain that I knew how to calculate pot sized raises better than most dealers at the PLO game and a second time to complain about jamming $240 into the pot preflop w/ AAKK and obv losing to KQ76). And LOL @ the old guy to her left who kept saying "she's the best woman player I've ever played with in a cash game" all night. My wife's very good @ minbet pokerz but the last thing she needs is some old guy boosting her ego some more.

Borgata is def. the best room in the city hands down.

Considering I am Seven Stars at Harrahs find this interesting as I have not gotten any free cruise.....I did get a trip to San Diego

Live game report! Heading down tonight

Sick beat. I had a parking pass for july and august but didn't update my address on my red card so it went to my old place. Just got ahold of them today when one is expired and one is about to.

Shame I didn't get up there at all in August.

Make sure you tell her to say "sup" so she doesn't get confused. By the way, I'm not sure I know how brown trout evolved into Sup bro. I mean i know about the brown trout sleeps in the closet (I think) but I didn't think it evolved. Enlighten us?

Also, I don't think I've ever said sup bro to a girl.

I do remember you stopping by, but I only figured out who she was at the very end of my session so I didn't get a chance to say hi to you.

It was too funny telling her how I was trying to think of a way to tell her to tell you sup bro.... in the least creepy way possible.

Trip report?

Played 3/6 for about 5 hours on Sunday. The pink chip game was running, but a quick survey of the table made it clear it was a horrible game. About three or four bad players, the rest were intense young guys who obviously spend too much time reading poker forums on the internet.

Three or four bad players in the Pink game = mega$$$'s.

Just get a good seat and stay away from the apostles of S & M. There's more than enough to go around. Plus, you can get those guys to lay down a hand!

PCG has been great. I have def run above average but still lots of money to go around. Every time I sit though I seem to not make friends people don't like when I take 4 full racks off the table.

Since the game is actually played with "checks," which are redeemable for cash, it's best to use dollar increments.

If you need help with the math, when converting the number of dollars into the number of "pink chips," the dealer should be able to help.

Lol. I meant this for the casual player sitting down to the game - but whatev. This is how dealers did it when the game was played at the Trop - and it was also (generally) how dealers referred to bets in the Wynn 1/3 game when they used $3 chips. I just thought it would be a quicker way to run the game, without referring to actual dollar amounts when players are facing bets.

The standard convention, in this game, has been to use chip count for bet sizes... i.e. 3 chips, 6 chips. Or, bet count - 2 bets, 3 bets.

The tourists can handle that better and it's less confusing to them. Why would we want to make the game intimidating?

It's bad enough that we have to help the dealers split the pot, when there is an odd pink chip (take 2 pinks, make 5 whites... 3 whites on the short stack, two on the tall stack)... asking them to do math to help players is much harder than just saying "it's 6 chips to you".

As I said, it's been standard practice to use this nomenclature, since the game started years ago. Most dealers follow that convention, especially the ones who used to deal it back in the "glory days" at the Trop!

Meh. It's limit, so there's only 2 increments to worry about. In the Wynn peach chip game using units made more sense since it was NL, and you often got odd lot bets like $51, 78, etc.

Good Evening Stan,
If you are there, Time for a game report, please ....

I thought it would be standard to split pots down to the denomination of the small blind? I.E. 5/10 NL you don't split the last red chip into five whites.

I think that depends on if the white chips on the table are in play or not. In 5/10 white chips are tipping chips only, not used in play in all in situations.

Versus say 2/5 white chips are in play, so the reds are cut down in split pots, versus 5/10 in which the red chips are split accordingly

In the PC game, the nits will cry if you don't get it split right. An extra pink that doesn't go their way will cause havoc. Breaking down into whites gets the split within 50 cents, which, believe it or not, I have seem some argue over who gets the extra half-dollar.

In PC O8, the high-hand gets it - obviously.

Minor $1/2 question.

I'm passing along a question/story of minor value. I had my own answer, but since I'm not that familiar with the Borgata games, I thought I'd check behind my thinking.

Borgata, weekday crowd (unsure if during afternoon or evening- I know, I'm sure it makes a difference)

$1/2 limit. Only have a few details:

Hero has a very tight, probably nitty image.
SB appears to be pretty tight player, according to hero


UTG, Hero opens to $10. Middle limper, then villain in SB bumps to $40. Villain only has around $160 left, hero has him covered.
I don't have details on middle position player

Auto-muck jacks here? I'm not even sure I liked the UTG raise with them, but it really depends on how the $1/2 group plays.

If you're saying call, do you have any suggestions for post-flop play for my friend, given all but the best flops? He didn't seem to be sure that he could flop a set and get it all in.


PS- My friend said the pink chip O/8 game was a non-raising rockfest (just like the Taj limit game!). Anyone else have any experiences to report?
edit- I see I should have read back a few pages' worth of responses....

There's a lot of players out there (esp. at the lower limits) who want nothing more than to see a bunch of flops. That's not to say that they're rocks or that they're not going to be putting their money in bad after the flop (which is where most of your money is made and lost in O8.)

LL: what O8 game at the Taj is a nitfest? You must be talking about the 5/10 cause the 15/30/45 is a LAGFEST! Great game!!

I'd muck the jacks for sure. I mean, if his read is "tight player" the only way he shoves/calls is if he thinks the SB is capable of a squeeze. That kind of play isn't often found in a B/M 1-2NL game. He has $10 invested, why get $190 more in on a flip (Best case it's AK) or as an 80-20 dog? Fold, be patient. It's a 1-2 game and beatable...wait for a better spot.

I have no experience with the mid week/mid-day O8 crowd. I guess I can see it being rocky older regulars. Tell your friend to chill though. He's a self described nit (aka rock) at NLHE...let them be rocks in their game.

I did play the Pink O8 game this past Sat night from about 7:00pm - past midnight when it broke. (they had a 2nd "must move" game going for a couple hrs) It had it' share of raised pots pre-F but IMO, that's not even optimal O8 play (with exceptions as always). It's def a post flop game and I saw plenty of action on the F,T,R...

I was lucky (skillful?) enough to take $380 off the table....and even luckier to meet the man, the myth, the legend...STAN!! Good to meet you my friend. Do I even need to say how amazing the Borgata is? The dealers? etc..etc. I will cause it's always good to hear....that place is second to none. Hope to be down again this weekend.

You are right that you should be able to get a split within 50c, but they never split the pot this way! The arguments are legitimate because there is absolutely no agreement about what the proper procedure is.


If the pot is >$80, there will be an odd white chip in the pot, meaning the pot size will end in $1, $3.50, $6, or $8.50.

For example, lets say the pot is $108.50.
After giving both players $50, it seems like the correct way to chop would be to break down two pinks....give the high hand a pink and two whites ($4.50), and give the low hand four whites ($4).
But what they do instead is just give the high two pinks ($5) and the low a pink and a white ($3.50).

Or lets say the pot is $106.
After giving both $50, you should break down both remaining pinks and give each player 3 whites. Instead they give the high a pink and a white and the low only a pink.

Obviously if the pot is $101, then the high gets an extra white....this seems to be the only time they do it correctly.
Edit: You could actually break this down so they both get $50.50.....not sure what the correct rule would actually be here.