My revolutionary idea of currency consisting of nothing more than fistbumps and highfives plummeted all thanks to covid.

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I lost 6 buyins in < 1 hour at Gardens 5/10 one time -- I'm 100% sure all unavoidable.

Not sure what you're point is, but it's impossible to have 0 RoR no matter how big your bankroll is. Best you can do is minimize risk to a level that's acceptable to you. Some people have more risk tolerance or better fallback opportunities so that they can play on a shorter roll. A pro with basically no other skills and who is unemployable might want a larger roll.

My point is people saying "oh almost impossible to lose X" likely have ran above expectation.

I'm at $30k now and have attempted switching over to 2/5 max $1000 a couple times, but the natural bad variance situations hurt a bit too much. I think I'm a bit more risk averse than your average poker player as well..

I'm at $22/hr over 2,500 hrs at 1/3. I'd love to be able to move up.

I'm much more closer to break even at 2/5 as well. I'm also in in tough midweek games. It is my only income at the moment..

It's OK though, the 500 max juicy and less risky.. I'd love to find a way to play weekends...

If it is your only source of income then I'd suggest sticking to your 1/3 NL game (that it looks like you are a proven winner in) and then simply keep an eye on the neighbouring 2/5 NL game and only jump into it when it looks good.

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ive always felt the games are better during the day, players are more predictable, and at night or weekends, too many youngers players coming in who might surprise u. also a lot of good players who take it seriously only play nights or weekends, so its best to play when theyre not.

I see where you're coming from, but for the most part the biggest fish come out at night and on the weekends. I do agree that the better recs tend to come out at these times, too, but the fish way outnumber them.

This is tantamount to saying "Stealing the blinds from Old Man Coffee is better than trying to stack drunken businessmen, because sometimes the drunken businessmen stack you instead."

Actually, TBCs story checks out at my old local casino in bum**** nowhere IA/MN border.

All the rich farmers play day hours in the winter, and the grinders play nights/weekends.

Both games still very beatable, but the day games were definitely better.

Many of the best players at Winstar were weekend grinders. They tend to play Thursday through Saturday so Thursday nights tended to not be great. Friday before rush hour was the nut low because most of the grinders would be there already and none of the fish. Friday night and the rest of the weekend was fish central though.

My personal preference is to play more with OMCs and poker enthusiasts rather than drunk morons, although I do play more at night than during the day.

Maybe not the perfect place to pose this question, but I'm curious if anyone who peruses this forum has put in serious volume in the newer texas card rooms? I've lived in Florida the last 6-8 years and played all over. Obviously, the games are and have been the softest I can imagine games being but I'm sort of at a spot where I'm debating a change of scenery. Can anyone speak from a WR perspective, maybe, if they have experience with both, how they think they compare? From streams and such, it appears like all 1-3 2-5 just play extremely deep but not necessarily any better than what I'm used to at the more standard 100bb and 150bb caps.

I've played in them, though not extensively. From my experience, they are deep and splashy. Very beatable, but it's higher variance because the average player is much more wild than the loose/passive donators I'm used to making most of my money off of. That said, I have little experience in Florida, so I'm not really able to make a comparison.

If the the rake is 10% capped at $20 and your playing 2/5 or 2/3 in australia is this game beatable? Also if people buy-in for $100 instead of $300 in 2/3 should you not play? Some might buy-in for $300.

Can you make a living from these games? Meaning $20+ a hour. If you play for 30 hours can you make $600?

I'm considering putting in the work like squidface posted in the beginners forum
but I wanna at least make $600 a week if I play 30 hours. When the casino opens up I may just play 2/5 which might earn a better hourly return than 6 hour pub poker licence games. those games run 7 days a week and you can probably get in 30-40 hours of play time in the pubs.

PLO is 1/2 with the same rake and i dunno if that's even worth playing.

Probably take $300 next week and go and play 2/3 live NLH if its beatable for a good player.

I'm unclear. 10% capped at $20 per hour, or per hand? If it's per hand, then it would be a brass-plated-b**** beating the game (unless you are very good at table selection). $20 an hour would be great.

Its per hand.

I'm starting to think poker is a waste of time. rake is only going to increase as well

Those levels of rake are really hard to beat. I would stay away from these games.

Earning $20 hr in good 2/5 games is quite reasonable, assuming non-predatory rake. But may still require some game selection

I've heard the games in Australia are quite soft, and I would guess a large reason for that is the rake which is quite prohibitive to making a decent living playing poker (not to mention the high cost of living). On the bright side, at you least in Australia you don't tip when you win a pot, but I think tipping is of minimal concern compared to that high rake.

Also, the idea that you can play poker 20 hours and expect to make $600 is laughable. Poker does not provide a steady safe source of income. You could win $600 in 5 minutes and then proceed to lose $2000 over the next 80 hours.

Honestly to be good at poker takes a lot of work, a lot more work than is required in most jobs, and poker gives a lot more mental anguish, no paid benefits, and limited upside relative to most industries. If anyone told me they wanted to grind a game where players regularly buy in for $100 I'd tell that person to get a job, regardless of the rake.

Unlike a normal job, in Australia you don't have to pay any taxes on gambling winnings so that's a big positive. Still, if you want to pursue poker I'd highly recommend you do it on the side (ie nights/weekends) while you work a real job. Not only will you make more money this way but you're far less likely to burn out from poker which can become quite dull when you grind it 40hrs a week.

In one way the game always moderates; if the rake goes up it knocks out some good players who were willing to play at "x" win-rate but not less and so the game gets easier because they're gone(more rake is better). The problem is having actual good players willing to lose long term just because they enjoy the game. They enable the house to raise rake infinitely.

Figured I'd post my giraffe since I rarely play anymore.
About 3240 hrs of this is NL, the rest is mostly plo 3660hrs

Nice work Gator

10% capped at $20 at a 2/3 NL game with $100 - $300 BI seems pretty horrendous to me. If everyone is clueless and shoving blind every hand, you'll do fine. But in games slightly worse than that, it's my guess that it would be very difficult to beat for any significant clip.

But nothing wrong with just getting your feet wet in the game on the side (for purely recreational purposes) and simply seeing how it goes. Get yourself a small 1000 hour sample size over 1 - 3 years and then you'll have a slightly better idea of what you may be capable of in that game.

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Nice job. I can't read any of the graph though so no clue how much this is or how many hours on the graph.

Not sure why the resolution degrades.

Top is 250k
To the right is 7k hrs

Strong work Gator!!

big dip in center looks reasonably painful