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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
When I mentioned 100 buyins being ridiculous I was strictly talking bankroll, not liferoll. Even when I played for a living, my life expenses were pretty much nothing so that's not something I really consider.
Anyways, I think we've had this discussion quite a few times and have come to the conclusion that crushing players will rarely ever go on $10k downswing in typical 2/5 games. That's why it's hard for me to grasp needing a $50k bankroll for 2/5.
Personally I just think if you lose a lot of buyins there is probably something wrong with your game. When I play well, I pretty much win every session and when I play poorly I win nearly all of my sessions too, so how the hell am I going to go on a $10k downswing? My guess is that players that go on these downswings are trying to push every single edge, even when the edges don't actually exist. That's when I tend to have my bigger losses.
I agree with you on alot regarding these topics. Its worth as a reminder though that not everyone on this board is a crusher, and may go on bigger downswings as a result.
Either way, being overrolled is certainly the best option- and for experienced players its obvious why. In slow livepoker you can run over expectation for a freaking long time, months and even years if you dont log alot of hours to smooth variance out both ways. But when the death run hits you, even though its rare, you need that big bankroll to avoid going mentally crazy.
It also comes down to personality to some extend. How well are you built mentally, can you still show up to play good +EV poker after seing your 50 buyin bankroll being cut in half by the worst downswing in your life so you only have 25 buyins left? Can you really manage that stress?
If you play fulltime for a living with no other sources of income, i dont think 100 buyins is unreasonable. If you play parttime however, with another job on the side also bringing in money/or you have other sources of money coming in i agree that 100 buyins is taking it too far.
But i mean, after a couple of times into DGAFs "The Abyss", i really learned how important it is to play properly rolled, and if possible overrolled.