JY,
I understand that it's not easy to answer the pressing questions because of concerns regarding personal/sensitive information. We can all appreciate that. But regarding the bold quoted below can you comment on the timeline given?
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Originally Posted by sheetsworld
I am an interested party in this situation, so I am not completely unbiased to the outcome, but if adding some facts will help, here they are:
About 2 years ago (not 100% sure of the timeline here please forgive that) I wanted to put some sports bets in, as I had a friend who said he knew what he was doing (sigh lol I know i know its impossible whatever but I trust him). Having no idea in this day and age how to go about getting bookies etc, I reached out to someone on 2_2 and he told me to contact Jason, as he did business with people and could hook me up or whatever ....
Jason had a relationship of some kind with a website which took the action...I got a user id etc and Jason handled the money flows....seemingly standard of an agent etc. Well one day my account was frozen after a few weeks of winning, and I was wondering why it was? Jason was unsure and said he would find out , and told me that the "boss" or..."the site" or whatever, didn't want the action anymore, as apparently they suspected that my action, which did involve some offbeat props etc, was not something they wanted to take.
I said sigh ok whatever, and asked to settle up with what was owed. Jason put me off for a week or 2 but he told me he was in the hospital for knee surgery and he would take care of it soon. I am not going to challenge Jason's word on that...who would lie about that? So I was patient and a week later or so he shipped me online money or whatever...Now that I think about it , it was lock money he sent me loldksjhfsdkfdhkfhsad but ok ok thats fine lol.
Fast forward a year and I reached out to Jason and asked if maybe his guys wanted action again? He told me he would check, and a day later he said sure no problem, and reopened my account. I ran hot again and asked to get paid.
Jason said he would meet me at his bar, or ship money into my boa ...whatever I wanted, the day after he collects from his "guy" which was supposed to be the following tues. I followed up and Jason told me that the guy was a no show, for unknown reasons. Coincidentally, or perhaps not. this was the time when a whole bunch of bookies got arrested, so Jason speculated it was because of this.
A few weeks passed, and eventually Jason told me essentially the same story posted in this thread....the summary being that Chris owed him alot of money, that his bookie left him in the cold, and he couldn't pay what I was owed until Chris paid. He told me straight out that I was 1090% going to get paid, but I would have to be patient, and it would certainly accelerate the process if Chris would pay.
I did reach out to Chris, really just to confirm that Jason's story wasn't BS...Nothing personal against Jason...I just didnt know him very well and I have been around the block, so to speak, and heard alot of stories in my day......I didn't expect or ask Chris to pay me money directly, although I certainly would have accepted that as a result obviously. Chris basically told me exactly what he ended up posting in here, and told me that he was not sure what he was going to do.
I have followed up with Jason every month or so since this time, and he assures me that I am getting paid eventually, and again stresses that Chris's payment drives most of the results here , although, Jason HAS paid me some portion of what I was owed. It certainly is not alot, and certainly does not make up for all of this aggravation, but it certainly demonstrates, to me at least, that Jason for his part wants to do the right thing by everyone.
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Originally Posted by dunlap
To clarify timeline of events. I discovered that Jason owed 18k back around April when I lost. I was in an airport in Europe heading home with every intention to pay Jason. When I found this out yes I waited/stalled whatever you want to call it. Another guy came to me saying Jason owed him 24k a few weeks later. This is long before I knew about sheets. Sheets called me several months later and told me his experience. His "boss" supposedly split back in April but according to sheets he didn't start betting again with Jason till October of that year. I know Jason was completely insolvent then and his "boss" was gone yet he opened up his book for sheets to start betting again.
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Originally Posted by Jason Young
im fairly certain you have no idea what your talking about
i didnt lose any money to any of these people
they won it from someone else- that didnt pay in the end...
i vouched so im responsible
im sorry you dont understand that
Cliffs:
Sheets wins $x in March 2012, gets his account closed, but is paid his winnings. CM loses $15k in April 2012 and does not pay. At some point between April and October 2012 your boss disappears, leaving you holding the bag. Then in October 2012, Sheets approaches you to see if his account can be reopened. You tell him a day later it can. Sheets wins ~$8k and you explain he can't get paid because you are waiting for Moneymaker to clear his debt.
At the very least you're guilty of freerolling Sheets. Why didn't you mention your boss had ducked out on you? Also, why didn't you tell him before he made the bets that if he won he'd have to wait to get paid because you couldn't pay him without CM making good? Judging from the CM texts you posted from September 21, 2012 it was pretty clear that it was going to be a very slow process getting the full amount from CM. Sheets placed his bets a month later.
Last edited by 3 Bullits; 11-01-2013 at 01:12 PM.