Lol, discount available? I can't afford full price now.

Don't know if I've ever seen anything as sad as "Greg's upcoming calendar" I'll save you the click, it's completely empty for the upcoming year. lol

I disagree it was a great change plus the table felts that looked like hot dogs were removed

Anyone hear what the May promo's are going to be yet?

https://www.seminolehardrocktampa.com/tampa-poker.htm

High Hand Sunday-Friday 10AM-10PM $200

Hot Table Saturdays Noon-Midnight $100 for each player

Why do they keep getting smaller?

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I think there are a few possible reasons:

1. They paid out a lot in April,including 2 Bad Beats hitting on the same day.
2. May is usually a slow month.
3. They are running a lot of Satty's in May to the June Main Event.

I'd rather them run tournament series year-round to get traffic rather than jackpots. The games are infinitely better when a tournament is running.

Does anybody think they will have the new room ready by the NCAA national championship? That would be pretty dope. Money will be flying that weekend.

Or is the new room just a myth?

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it'll be built once they break ground on the hotel expansion.

When that happens? your guess is as good as mine.

The New Room is not a Myth.There is actually a Layout/Blueprint of it and Location for it.The understanding was that the new room would be completed before the Holiday Season started 2016 regardless of the new compact passing.The new compact did not pass and now i have heard that any further projects are on hold,at least in the short term.We can only hope.

I am just happy that the Jackpot drop is only $1.Does anyone know if there are any other rooms in the State of Florida that only drop $1?

So, was talking to one of the dealers tonight and he said they have been asking the dealers what they think good promos would be, and to ask some of the players what they would like and report back.....

I actually liked the Hot Seat, and the Hot table (although much more when it $1,000 per seat and $200 each player at the table)

The dealer said one of his suggestions was let the Bad Beat jackpot go up everyday, until it gets to $100,000 (it's capped at $50,000 now) and then everyday after that it's not hit at the $100,000 lower the requirements, per day, until it's hit which I thought was a pretty good idea.....

Anyone else got any good suggestions?

Getting rid of all of the dealers who don't have the slightest clue would be a nice promotion.

The best promotions are those that:

1. Attract more non-optimum players to attend; and
2. Encourage players to make non-optimum plays.

Hot seat promotions achieve only #1.
High hand promotions achieve both, but mainly #2.
Progressive bad beat promotions achieve both.

My top suggestion: Run all three types of promotions at the same time, 24/7/365.

Additional suggestions:

Tier the promotional payouts based on the stakes (i.e., limit games earn a lot less, so they aren't sucking up the bad beat and other jackpot money).
Don't spend player jackpot drop money on seat give-aways or satellite seats to tournaments at other poker rooms (Hollywood Hard Rock).

And for my full list of suggestions once again (including the dealer's "pretty good idea"), see my post from January of 2014:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=7470

Skimmed it, I like the freeroll tourney you were talking about, but a totally different system. The daily freeroll for a $750 pot would be pointless frankly a waste of time for most players, and probably not the players they are trying to attract....... However if they did something like play 40 hours throughout the month, get entered in a monthly $30,000 freeroll (or something along those lines) I think it would A.) Get a bunch of people who would normally not play 40 hours, to play 40 hours, which would obviously help the room B Get some cash game players who might not normally play Tourneys involved in tourneys and maybe get some more tourney players overall who like the format. C.) The day of the tourney probably get a lot of people who bust out early, or even don't will stay and play that day... Total win/win

I'd much rather have something like that then a gas card or something along those lines.....

My feeling is that the high hands were better than the hot seats or tables. Because with the hot s/t, once it is announced for the hour, that's it. Nothing to keep players interested for an hour. Plus, nothing that would cause them to play less optimally by chasing suited connectors or slowplaying sets to river to try and hit quads. With the high hand, unless someone hits a royal, people still think they have a chance to win right up to the last minute of each hour or half hour. If the HH is quad 9s for example, no one says "well, that's tough to beat, so I'll just play regular poker now". So the HH keeps way more interest in the promo for the entire time.

For the BBJ, I think they should let it go up to 100k. IMO capping at 50k limits the "wow factor" that having a big number has to attract people. Moving over 6 figures will help that. It only would take about 10 extra days to get it up to 100k from 50k. The next thing I would do is lower the requirement to win the BBJ to any quads getting beat rather than quad 10s. When the BBJ was first introduced, it was any quads. And it certainly wasn't hit super often. Then, when they linked the BBJ with the Hollywood BBj, they raised the standard to quad 10s. But when they delinked from Hollywood, they didn't go back down to any quads, instead leaving it at quad 10s.

The idea for going to quad 10 s was to make it super difficult to hit so that the jackpots would get extremely large. And they did. So the fact that the BBJ wasn't hit very often was offset by the excitement of having $400-500k jackpots. But when you cap the jackpot at 50k or 100k, then you lose the excitement of the huge jackpot. So you need to offset that by having a winning standard that wins more often. Otherwise, and this is what I think has happened now, is people look at the 50k(25k max to the loser) and it doesnt generate all that much excitement because it's so hard to hit. Having a BBJ that on average probably only gets hit every 3 or 4 months or so doesn't generate that much excitement when the max you can win is 25k.

Cliffs: So IMO replace the hot seats/tables with high hands, have them run later after midnight on weekends,(you can definitely see the difference in number of players staying till 3am vs midnight on Fri/Sat nights when the HH is still going) and let the BBJ go to 100k with any quads beat being the standard.

I agree with all of this. Especially the BBJ. After it is reset, it is capped again in about a week to 10 days.

Cap it at 200k. Still leaves plenty of promo drop money for other giveaways and would create excitement.

100k even after taxes is life changing money to 95% of the players in the room.

25k minus taxes is still a nice payday, but with the once in a lifetime odds of hitting the BBJ, the payout needs to be higher. Gotta let people dream of the big score, not a nice used car.

I have been impressed with the rooms promos for the past few months. Hope it hasn't come to an end.

I think the only reason I like the Hot seat better is because it gives more people, more chance to hit it. Obviously if you're playing 2/4 limit, or 1/2 you have a much better chance of hitting a high hand as it's cheaper to stay in, where most 2/5 players are at a disadvantage at a high hand as it's obviously more expensive to stay in, or you have more intensive to take down the pot before you hit the high hand as there is more money in the hand.

Although, to your point, the hot seat was every 30 minutes, and could actually be called at any time during the time frame, it wasn't every 30 minutes on the dot, which kept people at the tables. and the general vibe around the room with the hot seat seemed pretty good (hit one of the 1k ones myself, so maybe I'm a bit biased) Although you do miss out on donks chasing ridiculous odds to hit the high hand, I think the fish who come in thinking they can bink a 1k hot seat every 30 minutes keeps a lot of fish there too.... Double edge sword I guess....

Let the BBJ grow to 100k,then add 1k per day until hit.Reset at 5k as usual,would take about 2 weeks plus to get back to 100k.This should still allow plenty of money to continue other Promos.I would also add a ongoing any quads beat promo,Example: quad 2's beaten gets a player $200,quad 3's beaten $300,quad 4's $400 etc. up till quad 9's $900.This would replace the old Mini-Bad Beat,Its much more cost effective.Leave the BBJ at quad 10's beaten.It really sucks to get quads beaten and get nothing,but a Bad Beat story to tell.And what poker player wants to hear another Bad Beat story.

Hello. Looking to see if some players would like to play 2-2 PLO or some low to mid level mix game and hard rock?

1/2 PLO has a decent chance of going,if a list gets started early enough on Fri/Sat.

Thank you. Is this the best Thread to post in? I will be starting a list for 2-2 plo next weekend.

this couldn't be farther from the truth.

these tourneys bring in minstack buyers trying to minimize losses or win a tourney buy in for a reentry. Just look at Vegas, the Rio cash games are bleh during the WSOP and the best are away from the tourney series.

WSOP is not close to the same as some mini series that only locals are playing. A THR series capped by a $1600 main isnt attracting the best pros in the world - but the WSOP is. These local series attract weekend warriors that normally wouldn't take a day off to grind cash games. Once the weekend warriors bust they don't want to leave early, so they plunk down a buy-in at a cash game.