Do we have a representative from THR that posts here?

Hi,

Planning a move to Tampa and was wondering how the games are these days? Running every day? Action? Softness? Mostly interested in NL 200-500.

Thanks.

you're talking in west coast terms

east coast the games are described by the blind sizes (for no limit). you're probably looking for 1-2 if you're comparing to LA. maybe 2-5.

buy-in's are:
1/2nl $60-$300
2/5nl $200-$1000

there are lots of games and actions running round the clock. more so on weekends obviously. games would probably be described on the soft side, but there are a decent amount of regs/pros/semi-pros. the action is not nearly as wild as california. more in line with vegas.

check the first post of this thread for the FAQ which is up to date and has lots of good info.

check bravopokerlive.com to see which games are running at any given time.

good luck.

Heard last night that there is a new rule for cash games. Apparently, even if heads up, you are not permitted to show your cards to get a read. I was told by one of the floor people that the reason was A) it's an angle (lol), and B) it's in poor form. I typically don't show unless at showdown, but wow this is a ridiculous rule.

When I pressed the floorman about how it was an angle/"in poor form", he simply restated the rule. The rule has been in place for a month (first time hearing it!), and I'm guessing half the dealers don't know the rule.

Anybody hear anything else about it?

That's pretty stupid... Love it when drunk morons do that (and it happens quite a bit at the Rock) What's the penalty? Killed hand?

Not sure, I was so taken aback by the stupidity of the rule I didn't bother to ask.

No.

2/5 NL is 200-1000 at the Tampa Hard Rock.May starts the slow season,but 2/5 holds up better as far number of table options vs other games.The quality of games during May-September is not as good as the rest of the year on average.For Example,last night at one point there were 15 tables with 5 being 2/5 NL.Promos are poor this month,which impacts 2/5 less than other games.During the Summer,many rec players take a vacation with family and Tampa is really not a Summer Vacation Destination.

Yes.It does seem to be hit or miss,depending on the Dealer.

This room is run so poorly it's out of control. Had 2 issues with supervisors last night, but it's not even worth filing a complaint. Unreal.

What issues?

Drunk old reg had busted another players AA with J9 early in his session. A few hours later this drunk old reg busted.

The hand before the drunk old reg busted out, the player who had his aces cracked joked to me when I was organizing my chip stack and action was on me. He said "it looked like you were about to shove, I thought you had AA". I replied that I mucked them because I was worried J9 would crack me. Didn't really say it in an insulting manor, just teasing the guy who had them cracked, and was being friendly.

So fast forward 2 mins. Drunk old reg busts and stays at the table for a few hands. He doesn't re-buy, instead he just stares at me as if I had stabbed his dog. It was extremely uncomfortable.

As time goes on, the old drunk reg stands up and walks away for a minute, then comes back and is standing in front of our table, still staring at me. I told him I was sorry if I offended him, and this is when he blows up. He begins having an argument about someone saying something and God knows what. Wasn't really paying much attention, the dealer told him to stop talking multiple times but he just kept raising his voice and going. This is where the supervisors get involved.

The supervisor....

1. Didn't ask the dealer what happened
2. Didn't ask the old drunk man to leave or to calm down
3. Promised the old drunk reg they would save his seat for up to 30 minutes in case he decides to rebuy.

Meanwhile the old drunk reg stands by the cashiers box and stares at me. Again, I'm very uncomfortable. Until finally he leaves.

When he leaves I approached the supervisor and let him know I think he should've gotten some details from the dealer, and that the player was making myself and others at the table uncomfortable. I kid you not, the guy acts like he has no clue what I'm talking about and claims this never happened. He had been talking to the old drunk reg no more than 2 minutes prior.


Issue #2

I overheard a conversation between a dealer and a supervisor about someone causing disruptions at a table and being obnoxiously intoxicated. The dealer said they think he should be escorted out of the room, but said the regs don't want him to leave because he's giving away so much money. Supervisor seemed to agree it'd be best to let him stay.

So the complaint about the supervisor would be , man was staring at me and supervisor didn't make him leave. The second complaint would be, drunk man gives money to players and supervisor didn't make him leave.

Because people have never been kicked out, let alone warned for starting fights with, or baiting others before?

The 2nd issue has nothing to do with the player being drunk. If there is an issue, whether or not they are winning or losing should have no impact on how to handle the situation.

The second situation is an interesting one. Let's say you have a player that is obnoxious, or exceedingly slow. My experience is that the players definitely take into account whether he is a nit not playing any hands, or a guy playing every hand and bleeding chips when they are deciding whether to ask management to kick the player out. If a guy is drunk to where he is being loud/disruptive to other tables, or can't really grasp what's going on, then he should be removed regardless. But if his "crime" is irritating the players at the table, and the players don't mind because his money is soothing their irritation, then should that really be handled the same way? Does/should the desire of the players at the table ever enter into the decision?

Just asking. Not really sure which way I'd lean. I generally am glad to see obnoxious people go either way.

This is a good point, didn't think of this. In this scenario it didn't seem like it spawned from a player complete, but from the person breaking a house rule. I really don't care, if I was at the table obviously I would want him to stay. Just goes to show how favorable this room is to regs, which can make it less comfortable to casual players.

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I go to the poker room to make money, not make friends... While a friendly table is nice, and can make the experience more fun, if there's some drunk moron, raising and re-raising every pot, and calling everything, but might be a little obnoxious (Let's be honest, it happens pretty much every Fri or Sat night) I have no problems with letting him stay. Had some drunk moron at the table last week, don't think he was purposely meaning to be a dick, was more playful with his banter but some of the old folk were taking it to heart, but the dude blew though about $1,200 in about 2 hours at a 1/2 table... Just bluffing and betting at everything, give me that guy all day everyday vs. a sober regular who might be nice... lol Guys like that, are what put money in poker players pockets and keeps people coming back... regardless if he was mean to someone or not...

If there isn't anything blatantly threatening going on obv keep the drunk idiot in the room. If you're worried about something happening get an escort out.

it should be a crime to sit backwards in your chair with your ass crack hanging out to everyone. Everytime I turned around to order a drink or catch the hockey score, dudes hairy ass crack just wham in your face. Pull your pants up, turn your chair around the right away, this is a gentleman's game and it's a joke that management can't enforce simple rules and we have zero input from staff here so we're just shooting comments into the wind

You know you like it. He was just showing off some butt cleavage. Getting a lil A/C down there.

You know those chairs are adjustable, right? Maybe you should raise yours a little higher.

One of the dealers mentioned that they were planning on charging $5 to park in the garages. Has anyone heard any validity to that?

I can't see it happening.

Unless they saw how much the panhandlers were making on the Orient and Hillsborough entrances and had to get a piece of the pie.

$25 for valet though so who knows?

Games sucked the past two nights. The crappy promos this month really killed the weekends. Or are there that many damn snowbirds that just left?

I heard the same, for the garages. They have already changed the flow in to park on that back garage to go past the automatic arm.

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