To the person who said the dealer was wrong about talking in the middle of the hand, the dealer was absolutely correct. The dealer could kill the bad beat for this such reason, you cannot talk about the bad beat during the hand, even explaining the rules, now, would a dealer ever invalidate a bad beat, probably close to 0%, but he did nothing wrong.

To those new with the bad bead frenzy, like others said, pocket pair for quads, 2 cards for full house, that easy.

I thought the Feds shut down the Chinatown buses a while back. Even if available, they are typically filled with homeless people - I wouldn't suggest them.

Academy is better than Greyhound.

glad to hear it. i've never taken the china town bus. my talk of having trouble getting on if you're not chinese is based on second-hand info. last i heard china town bus to ac was $20.

So it is up to the dealer whether or not he or she wants to invalidate a bad beat if someone is talking? That can't be right.

The eye in the sky doesn't have audio and the players aren't going to void it. Nor will 99.9% of dealers, knowing they are in line for a big tip.

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Big Bad Beat hit today a few tables from me at a 1/2 NL game. Guys were all in on the flop and needed runner runner and they got it for two straight flushes.

Nice for them!

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Amen. Not sure what the dealers problem was with me explaining the BBJP rules.

Are you referring to the China bus?

Nah, they're still going strong. They get shut down and re-open under new business names. Like I stated in my previous post I've been on China buses before. It's worth the money saved. The clientele on Greyhound also leaves much to be desired

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Awesome. So, is getting a rewards card as simple as going into the casino and signing up for one?

Some other idiot at or near the table could run their mouths while the floor is validating the BBJP. If it comes to light there was talk during the hand and the dealer failed to report it, he/she could get disciplined/fired.

Idiot: "Joe it was good thing you told Tom to turn over his full house after you showed your straight flush."

The dealer and the floor don't want to invalidate jackpots, however the gaming board does expect the rules to be followed. If they can let it go safely they will, but don't put them in the position to make that decision, some small fraction of the time it will go south. Usually the dealer cutting it short is sufficient as long as everyone just shuts up.

You don't seem to be getting it that the dealer may very well have been in the right, and if we was then he was trying to help you by not having the bad beat invalidated. Maybe you should be thanking, instead of criticizing, him.

I don't know whether or not explaining the rules of the BBJ while in the middle of a hand invalidates a bad beat. But the dealer here - whose name has been redacted - is very solid and I'd be inclined to trust him.

If Borg would do a better job of posting the Frenzy rules all of this could have been avoided.

For what it's worth, if anyone asked me during a hand my response would be, "If I ever think there's even a chance I have a qualifying hand, I turn it over to find out."

It's a way of trying to avoid getting the Bad Beat mucked without explicitly discussing it during a hand or telling them what to do.

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By turning over a hand with more than 2 people in, you could invalidate the BBJ with the wrong hand.

Look back at the posts in early May.

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I'm not saying I'd actually do that, but if there is someone who doesn't know the rules and there is fear of them mucking a hand it's +EV to have them just turn it over. It's a way to get them to do it without explicitly coaching them.

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Here would be an interesting situation, board is AAA X X and one guy has KK the other has KK now you have 88, but you are not sure if the BB frenzy is at that point. Do you invalidate if ask what the low is on the BB? Can anyone answer at that point? Dealer, player, floor? is it either a table share or nothing at that or would you get the 40% I don't recall same hand situation ever asked and with the frenzy rules it could happen. KK vs KK. QQ vs QQ with 3 or aces on the board never mind that 4A could screw things up.

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I'm pretty sure KK and KK chopping means no bad beat hits. I'd call the floor and have them rule on that before exposing or mucking my 88. If I had KK and the KK and 88 were exposed same deal. I'd ask for a ruling. If they refused to give one I'd muck.

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We asked about this same thing at the table and got the floor to ask , if that happens it is no bad beat one of the KK would need to muck

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Thanking him? The guy mucked his hand once the dealer got on my case. If the guy mucks his hand because no one answers his question, and he thinks he is beat, then you invalidated the bad beat yourself by not doing everything you can to keep him in the hand.

Oh wait I am wrong I answered this wrong , I just asked a floor person I know through text , if the board had A,A,A and two people had pocket KK and other person had pocket 88 the pocket 88 WOULD GET the 40% THE THE kings two people would split the winner 20% and the rest of table still splits 40%

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Sweet

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exactly, chop is never a bad beat, you have to lose for it to be a bad beat, and yes a tie for the win or lose for the bad beat is a possibility.

Heading down next week and hoping to play in an MTT, but it looks like on their website all the tournaments are rebuys. Is that right? Do they run any tournaments at all that aren't rebuy? If not, does any place in AC run MTT's that aren't rebuys?