Unless you are stupid of course muck, but I am sure you will get somebody who doesn't understand and will fold it face up and it will kill the bad beat.

And it looks like we are getting clarity on the bad beat, must use both cards for a full house and pocket pair for quads seems to clarify it all, AAA flop will work, but what will suck is that if somebody has an Ace there they will bet the whole way, and pocket 88 or better will call the whole way just to get disappointed and lose the pot.

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We'll probably get one where someone insists the Ax shows first as last aggressor.

This is true. I don't see a situation where AK would muck. He would of course bet the last round and just be called.

Stupid rule making this situation not only possible, but almost inevitable.

So. Stupid.

Over/under on how many days before a fist-fight erupts over an invalidated mini?

There are other ways for an invalid bad beat. Board is AAJKA. Player 1 shows KQ. Player 2 shows 99, player 3 shows 88. No bad beat jackpot.

Any KX would kill it there.

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So what will happen is there will be tons of slow rolling once people figure out how it works. Can't wait until someone tries not to show the winning hand that voids the small bad beat in a huge pot at like 2/5, only to realize the pot is bigger than their table share, resulting in slow rolling not one hand, not two hands, but everyone's bad beat equity.

I can see it now. 3 way all in at 2/5 with 900 each... AK vs KK vs QQ. Board runs out AAAXX. AK slow rolls knowing it may be the mini. KK and QQ table, everyone celebrates... AK realizes that 2700 is more than the table share and tables. Chaos ensues.

Also on that note, it's now -EV to table unpaired big cards in multi way all ins preflop.

That's all only if the low BBJ hits $50k. Before it reaches that amount full houses are irrelevant.

What is the ruling if it's AK vs KK or QQ on a KAAAQ board?

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But a board of

AAA94 would qualify right using A/K vs. say pocket queens

Technically you would be using both hole cards 4 aces with a King?

This discussion of the ambiguities of the BBJ rules, and how a player might get confused as to whether to turn over a winning hand highlight what a truly ******ed "promotion" the BBJ is.

AK gets the pot, no jackpot. (Quads requires pocket pair.)


AK gets the pot, no jackpot. (Quads requires pocket pair.)

A truly messed up rule. How many times have we seen AK go all-in pre vs a 88 to QQ?

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Not much

It's almost always 50k. I'm not sure off hand how they distribute the money they take in but when the little one gets hit, it usually gets back to 50k in a couple days.


This promo is a good idea, but the ambiguity of the care usage all stinks.

The small is 1/4 of the big, up to $50k. When the small hits, it comes out of the posted big amount. We've been seeing the small always at $50k because the big hadn't hit in so long that it could drop $50k and still be well over $200k.

So if the small hits today, the big drops to about $183k and the small qualifier goes back to quad deuces until the total goes over $200k again next week. If the reduced qualifier means the small hits more often, it's going to keep dropping the total under the point where the qualifier is reduced.

So if the big one is over 250k, while the qualifier is AAA88, and the small gets it, thus having the small remain at 50k (since its still 1/4 of big), does the qualifier remain at AAA88, or does it go to quads anytime it gets hit? Sorry if that sounds confusing.

I imagine it resets to quads, as it's a new BBJ. But since it'd be at 50k already, the decreasing qualifier begins immediately.

what happens if you hold KK and the board runs out KKAAA and your opponent has Ax?

your two cards play to make KKKK but his don't. no jackpot i'm assuming?

No jackpot. His quads are invalid since not a pocket pair. This isn't complicated folks.

The only situation that the rules don't cover is if you share a card on board. For example, AAKKQ board, AK vs AQ. Does the K in your hand play (jackpot) or the 2 on board (no jackpot)?

Apparently too complicated for you to realize your example is a chop.

You have to make your BEST hand. So AQ has AAAKK and the Q does not play. Chop chop.

**** I'm an idiot! Ok I deserve that. I had the right idea but went off the wrong card. Try this:

The only situation that the rules don't cover is if you share a card on board. For example, AAKQQ board, AK vs AQ. Does the Q in your hand play (jackpot) or the 2 on board (no jackpot)?

The confusion is the rules say both hole cards must be used (I think for a straight flush).

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