comps are actually kinda gross for bj players on a risk/reward basis compared to poker. just look at the wager requirements to earn iRewards from borgatacasino.com and compare it to how much you have to rake playing poker...i realize it's seperate from borgata itself but w/e

pit gamblers unless they're playing pretty high limits or degening like crazy don't get much from what i've seen among my friends. especially compared 5/T+ reg.

also AC has some of the worst BJ rules in the country b/c casinos can't ban counters. it's also a game where the house edge can be like 30% against a drunk dude who's doubling 17 and ****.

Thanks, but I wasn't talking about comps. And the rules and drunks and w/e are totally irrelevant.

I don't think that is true

The odds will be even worse for the said dude if he sits down to play poker in 2 5 or higher.

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this is part of the casino's overhead.

lol, having to spend an extra $50/hr an hour due to increased security or whatever is not much when you consider the casinos expected earnings from a table which is covering a few hundred dollars worth of bets a hand and 40-60 hands an hour. in terms of profit generation, the casino makes wayyyyy more per square foot devoted to table games compared to poker. slots make them the most.

there is also the element that casinos have an infinite "edge" against certain players who come with a certain amount of money they're willing to lose and will dump it all eventually regardless of how much they're up.

see Uston v. Resorts International Hotel, Inc for NJ supreme court decision barring NJ casinos from banning card counters.

this has nothing to do with the fact that blackjack is a much bigger moneymaker for the casino than poker. the money that said drunk dumps to a nitreg who finally flopped a set after sitting for 8 hours is not going to back into borgata's pockets it's going into an IRA or something similarly uncool.

LOL if you think state of the art security systems cost that little.

Any general dates posted for Borgata Spring open yet?

Preliminary events beforehand, obviously.

Why doesn't the Borgata have a third-man walking rule?

I was playing there this weekend, and it got pretty frustrating. It was around the dinner hour, and the table was "full." However, six players were away from their stacks, leaving only four of us. One of the four then refused to play, leaving us three-handed.

To make things worse, two of the absent players had been away for well over an hour. When the third dealer came in for her down, she forgot to give these players an absent button. So when we called the floor, he declined to pick up any of the stacks, even though there was a list.

I think an easy fix to this situation would be third-man walking rule that gives the third-player to leave the table only 10 minutes to return. I was actually surprised that a room which is as well run as the Borgata doesn't have one.

If you get down to three playing, can you agree to break the table? Or do you just leave and the next three off the list get stuck in your spots?

It's a hassle, but it probably wouldn't take more than a couple times through picking up multiple stacks, shutting down a table a table at prime time and opening a new one before the staff thought maybe there was a better way.


Although I agree something could stand to be changed, I'm not sure I like third-man-walking. If two people have wandered off for a long dinner, why should it be the third person to get up who has to rush back? Sure, it's to encourage people not to linger away from the table once a couple people are already walking, but still it's most likely to penalize the wrong party. And how long do we think it would take for the regulars to fine-tune the art of being the first or second up?

considering a room at the Borgata late July for 5-7 days.. good decision? could I get a decent deal ?

If you've never been there (i.e., you don't have any play logged to get room offers), no. Going is a fine idea, but summer is prime time and rooms aren't cheap, even at offer rates. You'll do better outside the casinos.

I can get any 2 consecutive nights comped as long as it doesn't include Saturday. Is there any hope of getting them to add a 3rd night into the mix? I thought I'd ask before I spend 30 minutes on hold (again)....

^true

if cost isn't an issue do it. borgata is a happening spot. if you can get a room in the waterclub even better with their vegas-style pool.

you may, however, prefer to pick a casino or hotel on the boardwalk so you can enjoy the beach and walk to the other casinos and shopping (borgata isn't near anything and is one of 3 casinos not on the boardwalk).

if cost is an issue.. don't stay in a casino.

if you already get 2 weeknights comped then you're also getting discounts on the other nights. go to the website, select your 2 comped nights and it will tell you on the calendar how much it would be to add the saturday night.

I don't want to add a Saturday, I want to get Tue, Wed AND Thu nights....

I'm at 14 minutes on hold...lame

Here:

There's a 3MW rule in effect for $10/20 and $20/40.

Maybe also 10/20 OE? Games with fewer tables running, so slower-moving lists. That looks like it's more for the waiting players than the ones already seated. At 1-2 and 2-5NL, there are generally so many tables that walkers don't increase the wait time so much.

They won't give you a 3rd night, unless it is off peak and you ask your host

Unfortunately my trip isnt exclusively for poker :/ the wifey is tagging along.. Whats the recommended casino on the boardwalk?

Ive been there a few times.. Just not within the last 2 years.. I dont care to spend a few a $'s for a decent room.. Just wishful thinking I suppose.. Was hoping to maybe get a few week nights discounted or something

you wont get a discount anywhere in Atlantic City in July...

I appreciate it.. thanks!

Mr. Burger King crown is presently playing 1-2 NL @ the taj.