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08-03-2016 , 02:34 PM
How valuable is this? I've enjoyed the room comps I get at Borg from playing poker. If those weekend room comps dry up, I simple won't come back. I'm curious what the MGM buyout means. I've only been to vegas once and the poker comp thing still confuses me, or to put it different, it is not easy (you have to ask for vouchers to print out etc.). The borgata system is easy. I think that will all go away...

Q: What can I get with my Black Label card at MGM Resorts?
A: Present your My Borgata Rewards Black Label card at the M life Rewards desk at any M life destination and receive immediate upgrade to Gold M life Rewards status.
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08-03-2016 , 06:20 PM
Chatting with a dealer at the table last night. He reported the following:

MGM bought Boyd for 900 Million, mostly for the database (customer base).
90% non-match from Borgata to MGM database
East Coast visibility (Rutgers in Big 10 for similar reason?)
Also going to open big places in Mass (Springfield?) and Washington DC (near?)
No changes to the name
Expect few changes to day to day operations, including comp system. Not broke, not fixing.
Opens up offers for other MGM properties, in Vegas and elsewhere (has to be a good thing).
Effective as of August 1st (2 days ago)


One of my play money slot iPad apps is for mlife, and allowed rewards to be 'purchased' with gold coins for MGM properties. Recently (within the past year) I noticed that Borgata rewards were included.
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08-03-2016 , 06:26 PM
Will my mlife gold card get me reduced rate rooms at borgata?
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08-04-2016 , 11:39 AM
Question about rake collection.

No flop, no drop... so once there is a flop then:
Pot reaches $10 - $1 rake
Pot reaches $20 - $2 rake + $1 BBJ/promo
Pot reaches $30 - $3 rake + $1 BBJ/promo
Pot reaches $40 - $4 rake + $1 BBJ/promo

Is the pot is based on called bets only? For example, preflop, the pot is $17 with $1 already set aside. On the flop there is a $12 bet, nobody calls. No more additional rake should be taken, if the $12 isn't called?

Occasionally I watch the rake/promo collection, and have never questioned that things weren't done properly. Sometimes I see the dealer get ready to max rake, before the pot reaches that limit. When I was watching those times, and the pot didn't reach the limit, the 'pre-rake' was returned to the pot before being shipped to the winner.

This last trip, it appeared that a dollar was taken from a players uncalled bet. When questioned about it, the dealer seemed very straight forward about it being correct. What I didn't notice was if the dealer hadn't take the rake out yet. Perhaps it was a $15 preflop pot with only redbirds and the dealer hadn't broken one down to take out the rake? It was late, only a buck and the player who may have been effected didn't pursue it past one question to the dealer.
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08-04-2016 , 01:21 PM
Love the new seat change tags and the theatrics that ensue when the reg nits argue and yell over who can move seats first.
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08-04-2016 , 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlue56
No flop, no drop... so once there is a flop then:
Pot reaches $10 - $1 rake
Pot reaches $20 - $2 rake + $1 BBJ/promo
Pot reaches $30 - $3 rake + $1 BBJ/promo
Pot reaches $40 - $4 rake + $1 BBJ/promo

Is the pot is based on called bets only? For example, preflop, the pot is $17 with $1 already set aside. On the flop there is a $12 bet, nobody calls. No more additional rake should be taken, if the $12 isn't called?
This is correct.
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08-04-2016 , 02:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaze112
Love the new seat change tags and the theatrics that ensue when the reg nits argue and yell over who can move seats first.
Those came about because the clear lammers, previously used as "seat change buttons" when players asked, were disappearing and are apparently grossly expensive. (Some are just plain, some are etched with the Borgata B.) A dealer a couple months ago said they'd been told to use those only for dividing stacks in the tray.
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08-04-2016 , 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlue56
Question about rake collection.

No flop, no drop... so once there is a flop then:
Pot reaches $10 - $1 rake
Pot reaches $20 - $2 rake + $1 BBJ/promo
Pot reaches $30 - $3 rake + $1 BBJ/promo
Pot reaches $40 - $4 rake + $1 BBJ/promo

Is the pot is based on called bets only? For example, preflop, the pot is $17 with $1 already set aside. On the flop there is a $12 bet, nobody calls. No more additional rake should be taken, if the $12 isn't called?

Occasionally I watch the rake/promo collection, and have never questioned that things weren't done properly. Sometimes I see the dealer get ready to max rake, before the pot reaches that limit. When I was watching those times, and the pot didn't reach the limit, the 'pre-rake' was returned to the pot before being shipped to the winner.

This last trip, it appeared that a dollar was taken from a players uncalled bet. When questioned about it, the dealer seemed very straight forward about it being correct. What I didn't notice was if the dealer hadn't take the rake out yet. Perhaps it was a $15 preflop pot with only redbirds and the dealer hadn't broken one down to take out the rake? It was late, only a buck and the player who may have been effected didn't pursue it past one question to the dealer.
I was told by a dealer and even witnessed rake taken with no flop when I was there on Tuesday night.
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08-04-2016 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyg523
I was told by a dealer and even witnessed rake taken with no flop when I was there on Tuesday night.
See above about how some dealers aren't good and don't know it.
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08-04-2016 , 05:06 PM
Be careful and pay attention to the 1$ jackpot drop. There are multiple dealers who drop this no matter what the pot size. There are also many who don't seem to understand why this is bad.

Have heard one dealer actually say "Didn't realize you were so cheap to care about a dollar" to a player who complained.

Lol dealers.
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08-04-2016 , 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyLikeABird
Be careful and pay attention to the 1$ jackpot drop. There are multiple dealers who drop this no matter what the pot size. There are also many who don't seem to understand why this is bad.

Have heard one dealer actually say "Didn't realize you were so cheap to care about a dollar" to a player who complained.

Lol dealers.
Don't give that dealer a $1 tip a time or two and he'll see how cheap he is to care about a dollar.
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08-04-2016 , 08:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyLikeABird

Have heard one dealer actually say "Didn't realize you were so cheap to care about a dollar" to a player who complained.
Me: "Oh, so I guess that means that YOU won't care if I don't tip you that dollar anymore then! Cool, cause I never wanna think of you as cheap."'
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08-04-2016 , 08:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlue56
Chatting with a dealer at the table last night. He reported the following:

MGM bought Boyd for 900 Million, mostly for the database (customer base).
90% non-match from Borgata to MGM database
East Coast visibility (Rutgers in Big 10 for similar reason?)
Also going to open big places in Mass (Springfield?) and Washington DC (near?)
No changes to the name
Expect few changes to day to day operations, including comp system. Not broke, not fixing.
Opens up offers for other MGM properties, in Vegas and elsewhere (has to be a good thing).
Effective as of August 1st (2 days ago)


One of my play money slot iPad apps is for mlife, and allowed rewards to be 'purchased' with gold coins for MGM properties. Recently (within the past year) I noticed that Borgata rewards were included.
Which app??

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08-04-2016 , 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LowSociety
Which app??

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My guess is myvegas slots
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08-05-2016 , 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LowSociety
Which app??

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Quote:
Originally Posted by shaniqua_shanaynay
My guess is myvegas slots
Correct
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08-05-2016 , 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirpupnyc
This is correct.
Thank you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyg523
I was told by a dealer and even witnessed rake taken with no flop when I was there on Tuesday night.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirpupnyc
See above about how some dealers aren't good and don't know it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyLikeABird
Be careful and pay attention to the 1$ jackpot drop. There are multiple dealers who drop this no matter what the pot size. There are also many who don't seem to understand why this is bad.

Have heard one dealer actually say "Didn't realize you were so cheap to care about a dollar" to a player who complained.

Lol dealers.
It may be the case that things were done correctly at my table (had to make change before pulling rake), or incorrectly (rake taken from uncalled bet).

I'm aware that NL is a game of stacks, not blinds, and a dollar here and there doesn't matter much to me (rec gambler). But I am nitty about rules, procedures and the 'right' way to do things.



Quote:
Originally Posted by phaze112
Love the new seat change tags and the theatrics that ensue when the reg nits argue and yell over who can move seats first.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sirpupnyc
Those came about because the clear lammers, previously used as "seat change buttons" when players asked, were disappearing and are apparently grossly expensive. (Some are just plain, some are etched with the Borgata B.) A dealer a couple months ago said they'd been told to use those only for dividing stacks in the tray.

I don't think they are nice, but the new ones have numbers and it makes things easier for dealers to sort out the order when the regs want to battle. FWIW, I was seated uncomfortably in the 2 seat, at a table with 3 guys who already had the tags. When a couple players got up from the 6&7 seats, I wanted to move and waited until the hand was over to ask. Another non-tag holder had asked first, took the one he wanted and I took the other. Nobody with a tag even wanted to move.
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08-05-2016 , 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlue56
Thank you.







It may be the case that things were done correctly at my table (had to make change before pulling rake), or incorrectly (rake taken from uncalled bet).

I'm aware that NL is a game of stacks, not blinds, and a dollar here and there doesn't matter much to me (rec gambler). But I am nitty about rules, procedures and the 'right' way to do things.









I don't think they are nice, but the new ones have numbers and it makes things easier for dealers to sort out the order when the regs want to battle. FWIW, I was seated uncomfortably in the 2 seat, at a table with 3 guys who already had the tags. When a couple players got up from the 6&7 seats, I wanted to move and waited until the hand was over to ask. Another non-tag holder had asked first, took the one he wanted and I took the other. Nobody with a tag even wanted to move.
I almost always request one when I sit down. That gives me the option of moving, it doesn't mean I have to.
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08-05-2016 , 01:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl_LaFong
I get to the room on overnight trip 3-4 times/yr due to distance. Usually play 7-8 hrs first day and 3-4 second and find Mon-Thurs comped rooms offered a few days after I return. Last 2 times the comp rooms offer disappears about 2-4 weeks after they are initially posted on the website if I don't my next Rez by then and turn into $59 rooms M-TH. Is this SOP? My issue is it takes longer than a few weeks to plan the next trip and balance family issues. Am I just screwed on the comp room offer or is there someone I can reach out to?
I don't have a host - not a pit player

Thanks
I never sit less than 4 hours. I've found that I get and keeps comps. It doesn't matter if I play 1/2 or 2/5.
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08-06-2016 , 03:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raradevils
I almost always request one when I sit down. That gives me the option of moving, it doesn't mean I have to.
Yea thats whats so funny, they are so worried about seat changing and spend all this brain energy on it when the fools should be using that energy to improve how bad they are at holdem.
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08-06-2016 , 09:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaze112
Yea thats whats so funny, they are so worried about seat changing and spend all this brain energy on it when the fools should be using that energy to improve how bad they are at holdem.
Comps.....
I visit 3X a year and play 10/20/40 limit. Usually 3 night stays, always comp Sn-Th, steep discount F-Sat. Don't do pit games.

Comp rooms, deals offered all year? Maybe because I'm an out of stater ? Boston.
Not complaining .... Spirit Air for a hundo RT, comp room..... Insane deal
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08-06-2016 , 01:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puckster
Comps.....
I visit 3X a year and play 10/20/40 limit. Usually 3 night stays, always comp Sn-Th, steep discount F-Sat. Don't do pit games.

Comp rooms, deals offered all year? Maybe because I'm an out of stater ? Boston.
Stan told us years ago that home location doesn't figure into it, though who knows if that's still the case.

Might be that some combination of higher limit/longer stays/more hours gives you stickier offers. Or you're planning way ahead and booking the next trip before your offer changes, so you don't notice if it does. (If it's an entire calendar month with no play that sets it off, for instance, you could play today and book for December at the end of next month and not see a difference.)
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08-06-2016 , 03:15 PM
I live in Jersey and I get rooms whenever comped as long as I do it in advance even say 4 days prior I can usually get them as well, there just might be less options this time of year (like no kings available, or no comped water club etc)

No pits, just poker, so don't think location factors in.
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08-08-2016 , 09:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LowSociety
There's an odd algorithm that I used to have down to a science but I believe has been modified a bit. If you averaged 8hrs/day you'd fare better at room comps. The summer certainly makes it harder.

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Belated thanks for the response. I dont have a complaint about the amount of play required to earn a room, just wish I had more time to pull the trigger on the offer. I can see both sides of comp room offer being "live" for only 2-3 weeks ...just wondering if 3 weeks to make the comp res before the offer disappears is standard.
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08-08-2016 , 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raradevils
I never sit less than 4 hours. I've found that I get and keeps comps. It doesn't matter if I play 1/2 or 2/5.
This sounds good. I guess more frequent visits means the offers will be valid longer.

Thanks
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08-08-2016 , 10:03 PM
With borgata now being mgm, I'm afraid the card matching that I was able to do ( show total rewards diamond for borgata black ) might be going away. I guess we'll have to see how they setup their tier cards
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