How about i do it a little early

Time for a live game report Thursday 6:05pm

(3) 2-4 LHE
(3) 3-6 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(3) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE

(1) 1-2 PLO
(1) 10-20 O.E.

(13) 1-2 NL
(9) 2-5 NL
(3) 5-10 NL
(1) 10-20 NL
(1) 25-50 NL

Stan

First of all, I do not have any personal knowledge of this incident. I am answering this post as if it were hyperthetical with the information given.

I will start by quoting from the Borgata rule book.

Words and Gestures

A verbal statement or indication of "fold", "call", "check", "raise", or an announcement of a specific size wager, assuming it is within the appropriate parameters of the game being played, shall be binding on the player if it is the players turn to act.

Player A checks and then says," be carefull with your bet because I am going to call".

So let's assume this is what was said. First of all it was establihed that it was player A's turn to act. When he said "check" his action was finished and everything else is just chatter. He just checkded. If i heard this I would have warned him because this type of statement is not ethical. If the player just said, "be careful" This would have been absolutely OK.

There are things that are happening on TV (poker shows) that I do not agree with and it makes the managers job at the B&M harder. But we do the best we can.

Now there are situations that we must talk about concerning action out of turn. Remember the heading above "words and Gestures". Now let's talk about action out of turn that will be binding.

Let's say the game is full, 5 players in the hand after the turn card. "player C" acts out of turn by skipping "player A" and "PLayer B", betting $100 by putting chips over the betting line. The dealer should say it's not your turn. The dealer brings the action back to its original start "player A".

1. If player A and B checks, The $100 bet by Player c is binding.
2. If either player A or B makes any size bet then Player C is now off the hook with his $100 bet and may fold.

There are many examples i could do but it would take a long time. I also think you get what i am saying.

Stan

Stan.

Here's a question from another thread, about something that happened at Borgata, about which I'd like your opinion:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...ng-bet-544722/

Stan,

Good post and overall I agree with your thought process / ruling there.

The betting line at the Borgata is exactly that, a betting line and yes we enforce the betting line. I will give the two major parts to our policy. They are very simple as i will show you. Think if it as "by land or by air"

1. If chips that are being pushed on the felt and they cross the betting line, that is a bet. If a player pushes the chips up to but not over the line the dealer should prompt the player to push the chips over the line, if that is their intention.

2. If chips are in the hand, and possibly crosses the line than that is a bet.

So let's look at the two rules. Rule one says that chips that are touching the table. Chips that are touching the table are so easy to see if they have crossed the line. Rule 2 basically says that the chips are airborne. Depending on the angle of the observer, it's hard to tell if the chips actually crossed the line. So, if the arm goes forward and the dealer thinks that the chips may have crossed, Bango it's a bet.

Stan

Stan, could you clarify Rule 2 a little bit more? It seems to read that any chips that cross the betting line constitute a bet. However, it's not uncommon for players to go over the line with a stack of chips in hand and cut out a smaller bet/call without reprimand. What's the correct interpretation?

Also, dealers will warn players that placing their cards behind their chip stack would constitute a bet of all chips in front of the cards. Is this a rule in addition to the betting line or are the dealers mistaken?

You are correct that i should clarify rule 2.

Yes you are correct, when taking chips in hand across the line, the player must at least bet the minimum. And yes they may bring back the rest.

Also, dealers will warn players that placing their cards behind their chip stack would constitute a bet of all chips in front of the cards. Is this a rule in addition to the betting line or are the dealers mistaken?

Not true

Stan

Thanks for the clarification and also dispelling the myth.

Hey Stan is there a link on the internet for the Borgata rulebook in the poker room? I find there are more different rules Borgata adheres to versus the other poker rooms around Atlantic City. Thanks Stan.

I think I might print this reply and use it as my card protector. I get so tilted when dealers say this to me.

Go for the T-shirt IMO.

Bad beat jackpot is?????

It is possible, becasue we have dealers that work in other poker rooms, that the rules might be confusing to the them. I wish we were all (casinos) on the same page to help these dealers.

Stan

You guys are crazy

Stan

$120,106 but it will go up at 11am.

Stan

I'm heading down, can I get I live game report?

Stan,

I sent you a PM. I appreciate your time.

Regards,

William

Time for a live game report Friday 12:20pm

(2) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(1) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE

(1) 30-60 Stud

(1) 10-20 O.E.

(10) 1-2 NL
(6) 2-5 NL
(3) 5-10 NL
(1) 25-50 NL

Stan

http://www.theborgata.com/getjp.cfm

$127,805

My 2 cents- I looked at this thread probably 5 times a day when the Table Reports were being updated with out having to ask, etc. I looked at other Brick and Mortar threads too when the discussions were better. I have to say, now, I might look once a day probably less. That's less views for the site, etc and I'm sure other people's viewing habits are also trending this way.
I understand the opinion of the site operators. I understand most of the forum members feel opposed to this. Just want to throw my 2 cents out there that if at all possible when looking at your data and speaking with your advertisers, if there was a way to convey that allowing open discussion and staff interaction was in the best interest of the site that you would convey it. The Borgata thread was among the liveliest on here, and I feel it slowing down. Is there really anything wrong with letting this site be a home for all B&M players? As long as it's understood that everything on here is purely opinion and not a factual representation from the casino?

Whats with the horse**** that I can't get a comped room but I can get a poker rate room? How do they not have any rooms they can comp me but they do have rooms that I can pay for? You ****ers can't be that dumb. I am there all the time playing 20-40 and up. Serioud, do you people realize there is poker on the interent?

Seriously do you realize that it's the summer in AC and nobody comps poker players on the weekends and if they did 20/40 wouldn't be high enough to qualify?

FYP, maybe if you would try being nice...

Wouldn't it be easier to just send me a PM and ask me to look into your situation?

Stan

Stan,

I will be arriving at the Borgata tonight at about 9PM. I don't have any reservations however. I am bringing about a dozen friends for my bachelor party, my three pit bulls, and my mother in law. We like to smoke crack, weed, and extra large cigars (blunts really, but sometimes we smoke the smelly tobacco ones). We all like to drink top shelf liquor and beer but stop drinking once two or three of us pee in the hallways or under the craps table.

We also like to pick up the cheap hookers on Pacific Avenue, and bring them back to the stairwells by our rooms so we can video tape our party.

Can you please comp me six rooms? No wait, make it seven, I forgot about my mother in law. I also need at least three meal comps per day per person.

By the way, I am the only one in my party who gambles. I guarantee to give you at least two to three hours a day at 2/4 limit. OK, maybe 3/6 since I am bringing 14 people and three dogs I know I gotta give you a little more play than I am used to.

Make this happen please!!!!

See you tonight,

nineinch