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01-02-2016 , 05:50 AM
Cool. Thanks, guys.
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01-02-2016 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
Why YES, that was my table.

I didn't notice, or at least I don't remember noticing. Perhaps I thought you were staring down the black chips I used to buy in. I grabbed them after getting on the list, so I could walk around, check out tables and then just sit when called. Seemed easier than carrying around a rack with reds.
Haha...Indeed, the 3 black chip entry into the game was conspicuous as well.

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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
Wasted recon (IMHO). Not only don't I not know what I am doing, I'm pretty sure that I don't look like I know what I'm doing
Unfortunately, my recon mission failed when I couldn't accurately identify your last name from the distance I was at. It wasn't a common name and I could only make out the first 3-4 letters clearly. I tried a few iterations on google (to no avail) before surrendering. I took solace only in the fact that, if I was at the table with a Poker Legend, at least I was two to his left. And with regards to whether or not you look like someone who knows what he's doing: my immediate perception of you was as someone who was just very comfortable at the table (you had a capper thingy and just an overall solid presence). Perhaps I've conflated (mistakenly in this case, as you insist) the level of comfort someone has at the table with their level of skill.

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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
If the player to OMC As left was to be believed, I made a decent fold against him early, before wimping out and checking behind on a card that completes a draw he is never on.
That guy was driving a fair amount of the action. I think I recall the hands in question. Didn't you make a remark during the first one that you had a pretty good hand you were folding? I don't think he really bluffed multiple barrels, maybe ever. He'd bet at draws, but it'd be smaller and kinda transparent. Good fold, if I remember correctly. In the second one, I seem to remember you showing down a monster (AA?) and you were frustrated about a possibly missed vbet. I noted at the time that you must have some degree of MUBSY like the rest of us mortals, and any remaining fear I had of you dissipated.

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Originally Posted by BigBlue56
I was 10 minutes later than I told my wife, but had to play that last orbit. Felt a tinge of guilt winning a couple pots and racking up. Table seemed nice enough not to bitch too much about it.
Once you were out of earshot everyone just piled on about what a big ******* you were. Honestly though, I thought you had a very congenial manner about you and I liked you almost immediately. I don't give a pursed lip smile farewell to just any old Borg reg.

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I swear we need some secret symbol, a pin or something to ID 2+2ers, at least to chat away from the table.
I concur wholeheartedly.
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01-02-2016 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nutshot2
Water club rooms are better for reasons stated above. The only problem is the giant leather pillows. Who uses those?
I use it while simultaneously speculating the date it was last washed. It makes it approx. 35% less comfortable than it would be otherwise.
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01-02-2016 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FastBF
Haha...Indeed, the 3 black chip entry into the game was conspicuous as well.



Unfortunately, my recon mission failed when I couldn't accurately identify your last name from the distance I was at. It wasn't a common name and I could only make out the first 3-4 letters clearly. I tried a few iterations on google (to no avail) before surrendering. I took solace only in the fact that, if I was at the table with a Poker Legend, at least I was two to his left. And with regards to whether or not you look like someone who knows what he's doing: my immediate perception of you was as someone who was just very comfortable at the table (you had a capper thingy and just an overall solid presence). Perhaps I've conflated (mistakenly in this case, as you insist) the level of comfort someone has at the table with their level of skill.



That guy was driving a fair amount of the action. I think I recall the hands in question. Didn't you make a remark during the first one that you had a pretty good hand you were folding? I don't think he really bluffed multiple barrels, maybe ever. He'd bet at draws, but it'd be smaller and kinda transparent. Good fold, if I remember correctly. In the second one, I seem to remember you showing down a monster (AA?) and you were frustrated about a possibly missed vbet. I noted at the time that you must have some degree of MUBSY like the rest of us mortals, and any remaining fear I had of you dissipated.



Once you were out of earshot everyone just piled on about what a big ******* you were. Honestly though, I thought you had a very congenial manner about you and I liked you almost immediately. I don't give a pursed lip smile farewell to just any old Borg reg.



I concur wholeheartedly.
LOL. I usually try to toss my card with the name face down. I don't know why. All my online information is under a different name anyway

First hand: I had AQ. He claimed TT. ATx - A - x. I didn't think he was going for 3 streets of value with trips. I certainly didn't feel that he would take that line with AJ or a busted draw. There are other players where that's a snap call for me.

Second hand: I flopped the nut straight on a rainbow flop. Turn brought a 2nd spade. River was a 3rd spade that paired the board. I checked behind. In hindsight, naked flush draw unlikely, sets or 2 pair possible. I didn't think I was going to get value from worse, I don't know what he had, or if he would have paid.

It was a good day for me, won during the afternoon session, and the night session. More than made up for the loss from the night before, and a terrible early Nov trip.

Thanks. You are quite observant
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01-02-2016 , 01:07 PM
you're not going to go wrong either way. both towers have luxurious feeling rooms, great views and some of the most comfortable beds you'll ever sleep on.

if you want to impress the girl, go waterclub. it's more exclusive and luxurious imo.

i like the waterclub in general anyway. here's the comparison from parts of the room i note.

borgata:
- closer to gym
- closer to general pool that allows kids

waterclub:
- access to nicer "no kids" pool with alcohol allowed (my wife loves. this in the summer there is also an outside section... and you still have access to other pool if you want but you have to cross the casino floor to get to it)
- same bathroom as borgata tower plus an overhead rain shower head
- closer to poker room
- shorter lines at check in
- nice lobby bar (more important when bringing a chick... my wife also likes this)
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01-02-2016 , 06:11 PM
i don't average 8 hours a day and still get comped rooms with every friday available and half of the saturdays.

i wouldn't swipe my card in to play a short time, but if i'm gonna play for 4-5 hours I'm swiping in.

Also they won't cancel reservations you already made so even if you don't play a ton, if you have future reservations you can make up for a short session then.
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01-02-2016 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ecred
Can anyone please explain the difference between a "classic room" and a "club room"? Is there a reason to prefer one over the other? Would it matter if one plans to spend basically all waking hours in the poker room or if one plans to bring the girlfriend along for the trip?

Thank you in advance.
I think until the renovations there was a bigger difference as the classic rooms still had ****ty old tube tvs.

Personally I prefer the classic rooms bc I like having a refrigerator but it's really no big deal either way.
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01-02-2016 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Isaac Rebluff
I vote strongly for the Classic rooms over the Water Club rooms. I think they are somewhat larger. The table is FAR BETTER as it is rectangular and useful for computers and tablets, and has a more comfortable chair. The Water Club rooms have a round table that is useless for any kind of work or computers. The bathrooms are a wash... The location of the water club is slightly better, but only slightly. By the time you walk through the mini-mall, it's really not much shorter compared with the classic rooms when you cut straight across the casino floor. Access to the gym/spa is far better from the Classic rooms, as the gym and spa are located in that tower with their own elevator stop. Water Club has a mini-gym, but it is useless compared to the real gym in the Classic tower. The Classic Room tower also has the Living Room area which is better for greeting guests. Finally, the décor in the Classic Rooms seems of higher quality. The Water Club rooms have a chincy 70s faux wood look that I think is bad. The Classic Rooms were completely renovated 2 years ago and seem more modern and of higher quality.

I vote Classic over Club, and I always choose Classic over Club when both are available.
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Originally Posted by 85chickasaw
you're not going to go wrong either way. both towers have luxurious feeling rooms, great views and some of the most comfortable beds you'll ever sleep on.

if you want to impress the girl, go waterclub. it's more exclusive and luxurious imo.

i like the waterclub in general anyway. here's the comparison from parts of the room i note.

borgata:
- closer to gym
- closer to general pool that allows kids

waterclub:
- access to nicer "no kids" pool with alcohol allowed (my wife loves. this in the summer there is also an outside section... and you still have access to other pool if you want but you have to cross the casino floor to get to it)
- same bathroom as borgata tower plus an overhead rain shower head
- closer to poker room
- shorter lines at check in
- nice lobby bar (more important when bringing a chick... my wife also likes this)
These guys are pretty spot on. As some one who will be trying to hit the gym daily while I'm at the Borgata, I'll usually go with the Borgata tower. The classic rooms are also sometimes slightly cheaper. Strictly based on 'niceness' of the rooms, The Water Club gets the nod, but seriously, nobody should be stressing over where to stay. Either kind of room is very nice and way better than most casino hotels.
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01-02-2016 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
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Personally I prefer the classic rooms bc I like having a refrigerator but it's really no big deal either way.
club rooms have a refrigerator, at least ours did.
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01-02-2016 , 10:28 PM
weird, every room i've ever had at the wc didn't have a fridge.
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01-03-2016 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Isaac Rebluff

And now that gym access is included instead of a $15/day extra, the Borgata rooms get a big edge if working out is part of your daily routine. Walking from the Water Club to the Borgata gym is too far.
Does anybody see the oxymoron here?
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01-03-2016 , 10:26 AM
It's like raiaan on your wedding day.
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01-03-2016 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AALegend
Does anybody see the oxymoron here?
Yes.
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01-03-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AALegend
Does anybody see the oxymoron here?
lol. i didn't but, but that's funny.
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01-03-2016 , 02:40 PM
What's up with wifi in the poker room? I can't connect for like 3 straight days.
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01-03-2016 , 04:07 PM
Table 53 2:25pm guy makes a royal, gets to river villain folds. Guy shows his royal to the table and the dealer with his cards in hand facing up.

Dealer verbally says there is no promotion no high hand for royal.

So the guy mucks and people start talking and asking what happened and if there is a royal promotion.

They call floor over and they go to camera, come back and say that the guy won't get paid because the floor has to verify it in person.

Some time goes by, the guy leaves. Table starts to inquire about why he wasn't paid.

Supervisor comes over and answers the tables questions by saying it was taken care of and says he will ask some one else and walks away and goes to count a decks of cards for 15 mins.
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01-03-2016 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by phaze112
Table 53 2:25pm guy makes a royal, gets to river villain folds. Guy shows his royal to the table and the dealer with his cards in hand facing up.

Dealer verbally says there is no promotion no high hand for royal.

So the guy mucks and people start talking and asking what happened and if there is a royal promotion.

They call floor over and they go to camera, come back and say that the guy won't get paid because the floor has to verify it in person.

Some time goes by, the guy leaves. Table starts to inquire about why he wasn't paid.

Supervisor comes over and answers the tables questions by saying it was taken care of and says he will ask some one else and walks away and goes to count a decks of cards for 15 mins.
Would love to hear the results.

Every dealer should know what the promotions are for the day, week and month and the mgt. needs to get this information out to them. I often are at a table - someone gets quads (or a straight flush) - and the player asks if there is a high hand or quad promotion - and often the dealer isn't sure. The dealers should know what days of the week or when the promotions are.

Hopefully as part of the new rules which have been established this week - there will be some sort of effort to communicate this sort of information to the dealers.

As an aside - I played a couple days of poker over the weekend. I found most of the dealers seemed to enforce the rules as I understand them for absent bottoms. In terms of clocking players in and out - this was a mix. I took a 2 minutes break to wash my hands - played my button - missed 2 hands and found that I was improperly in the lobby. I took a 20 minutes break for lunch and had a missed blind button - but was clocked in.

I'm sure over the next few days - there will be consistent understanding and enforcement of the rules.
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01-03-2016 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by phaze112
Table 53 2:25pm guy makes a royal, gets to river villain folds. Guy shows his royal to the table and the dealer with his cards in hand facing up.

Dealer verbally says there is no promotion no high hand for royal.

So the guy mucks and people start talking and asking what happened and if there is a royal promotion.

They call floor over and they go to camera, come back and say that the guy won't get paid because the floor has to verify it in person.

Some time goes by, the guy leaves. Table starts to inquire about why he wasn't paid.

Supervisor comes over and answers the tables questions by saying it was taken care of and says he will ask some one else and walks away and goes to count a decks of cards for 15 mins.
Management seems a lot more worried about people leaving the table and earning comps they don't deserve than making sure players are treated fairly i.e. not getting paid for royal or high hand.
I think the Borgata is terrific but sometimes their priorities make me scratch my head.
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01-03-2016 , 07:27 PM
What new rules did they put in place?
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01-03-2016 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by repaupo
Management seems a lot more worried about people leaving the table and earning comps they don't deserve than making sure players are treated fairly i.e. not getting paid for royal or high hand.
I think the Borgata is terrific but sometimes their priorities make me scratch my head.
I think one of the few flaws with the Borgata is some of the floor staff is weak. Many on the floor are duel rate dealers/floors and some of them are quality dealers - but not meant to floor and make those sort of "floor decisions". I think most of the "regular" floor staff are very good - however there are often "weak" staff of the floor.

Many of us in our careers are good workers - and good in a particular role - but not suited for other roles which may require a different set of skills or more of a manegerial role.
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01-03-2016 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dirty moose
What new rules did they put in place?
Many - top few:

- Being put in the lobby when you get an absent button (and when/how absent buttons are given back) in a raked game.

-Not being able to pull your bet out of the pot - if you accidently called a bet and not realized someone raised before you (ie: you called a $ 2 bet - but the person prior to you raised to $ 12 - you must either put in the additional 10 - or keep the 2 in the pot and fold).

- On a chop - the person closest to the button (and not the highest/best card as it was in the past) will get the extra buck

- They also now have a "zero tolerance" policy in terms of people misbehaving at the table. Saw the same person yesterday given an hour off for using foul language at table 8 and then returned to table 1 and was thrown out of the room for eating a cheese stake at the table when asked to leave the room with his meal and he could return when he was done eating.
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01-03-2016 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by woundedknee

- Being put in the lobby when you get an absent button (and when/how absent buttons are given back) in a raked game.

-Not being able to pull your bet out of the pot - if you accidently called a bet and not realized someone raised before you (ie: you called a $ 2 bet - but the person prior to you raised to $ 12 - you must either put in the additional 10 - or keep the 2 in the pot and fold).

- On a chop - the person closest to the button (and not the highest/best card as it was in the past) will get the extra buck

- They also now have a "zero tolerance" policy in terms of people misbehaving at the table. Saw the same person yesterday given an hour off for using foul language at table 8 and then returned to table 1 and was thrown out of the room for eating a cheese stake at the table when asked to leave the room with his meal and he could return when he was done eating.
Why didn't they just make 1/2 a timed game ? Maybe they are worried that the room would lose players.

I don't have a problem with most of the new rules but they are already being enforced unevenly as far as clocking people in & out.
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01-03-2016 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by repaupo
Why didn't they just make 1/2 a timed game ? Maybe they are worried that the room would lose players.

I don't have a problem with most of the new rules but they are already being enforced unevenly as far as clocking people in & out.
I think the rule changes are in total a positive.

Just may take a few shifts/days to ensure all are on the same page and work out any kinks.
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01-04-2016 , 02:39 AM
Update on the question earlier RE: early check-ins.

Game I was in early Saturday morning was good and I felt fine so I waited to attempt the early check in until 10am. At 10 they took all my info and phone number and said nothing was available yet but that they would text me.

Texted me <15 minutes later and everything was cool. Thanks for all that helped.

I echo the general sentiments on the rule change. I'm fine with the new rule about having to leave the chips in the pot if you didn't see a raise and tried to call the smaller bet. It's not a mistake I really ever make. Only saw it happen once in 20ish hours of 2/5.

Maybe a slight concern that for complete beginners fresh off of roulette or craps who want to try their luck in the poker room may feel a bit embarrassed/intimidated by something like that happening to them but not big deal.

Biggest change imo is you don't have to show a called hand on the river now if opponent mucks (unless anyone invokes IWTSTH). Opponent bluffs river, you call, and he mucks... you can now muck as well. Saw that 10+ times at least.

Not sure how I feel about it. Nice to not have to give away more information... sucks to get less info on opponents.
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01-04-2016 , 03:28 AM
Can anyone tell me please what days the 10/20 o8 games run and what time of day it starts? Info on quality of play would be cool too if possible thanks
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