you can be a dick an ask to see them. for any hand that goes to showdown, any player who was dealt cards in the hand (even if they folded pre) is allowed to ask to see what a player mucked (if retrievable). it's a fairly unpopular rule to some. liberal use will not make you friends.

The Borgata poker guide begins
With the following etiquette advice:
A player who expects to be
Showing down the winning hand
Should show it immediately.

Any time a clown invokes a IWTH in a dumb spot I just throw cards in muck before dealer can retrieve them. I haven't gotten in trouble for this yet but YMMV.

Also does anyone know if im allowed to wear this at the tables?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00..._detailpages00

Only on Saturdays during the Sanitation Saturday promos.

IMO both abusing IWTSTH and doing this are equal dick moves.

Perhaps. Maybe I am just a weak person for treating douche bags much worse than I treat nice people. I'll die OK with that fact though.

Fine.
But my point stands. Plenty of available seats, long wait list, and irresponsible floor people when it comes to filling seats and keeping things moving.

Ivy is cool though. Everyone likes Ivy.

Has anyone else noticed that DIPCE stays in form and writes all of his replies in Iambic Pentameter?

EVERY SINGLE REPLY

pretty dedicated to poetic verse here...

Im pretty sure this is a Borg house rule, not a gaming rule. Tis wasn't the rule at the Taj to the best of my memory. Do you or anyone have a link to the gaming rule? My memory is it was something Borg regs came up with but maybe it's just always been that way at Borg, don't recall. In any case, I think a bad house rule that should (but prob never will) be changed.

i see it more as procedural.

if no one shows cards there is a possibility someone could claim after the fact that a player shouldnt have won a pot and they should have, management goes to video, maybe it's hard to tell what exactly happened.


someone has to show a winning hand, go to video, only one hand is shown, that player is the winner by default regardless of any other action

So what is the story on a Fall Open? Is there going to be one this year?

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i had the opposite experience. now a days i sometimes see dealers push pots to the last live hand and allow that player to toss in their cards face down. and 99% of the time no one cares. back when the taj was big they never allowed that (in my experience).

i admittedly have never read nj gaming rules directly. all my info comes from asking the same questions people here are asking (or being present when others asked) and seeing odd things happen in games in ac (like the angle shooting i mentioned earlier).

i can tell you that, in my experience, the rule was much more universally known by players and dealers at the taj and trop. when those two rooms were the "main spots" everyone played the way they learned in AC (back then 7 card stud and limit holdem were the main games). now people play the way they see on tv or play in vegas. the taj and trop dealers were always good about stating firmly "you need to show your hand to win sir" and sometimes even just turning the cards if the other player mucked.

every single time i've seen the rule questioned, regardless of the room, we were told it's an nj gaming law. every casino in ac has it this way.

are the nj gaming rules posted online? i think they were before christie got rid of the separate comission and made them a division of another state office. can't find them (for any game) online now. this is what i can see. http://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/actandregs.html

Several years ago i remember reading all the rules, but it seems they aren't posted anymore. Would be nicd to read them again especially with the "new" rit option which has gotten several different rulings which is frustrating.

At the showdown, a winning hand must be clearly displayed in its entirety and properly identified. The player initiating the final wager shall be the first player to show his or her hand at the showdown; all other players who have not folded shall then reveal their hands in a clockwise rotation. Any player holding a losing hand may concede his or her rights to the pot and discard the hand; provided, however, that the casino licensee may require the disclosure of any discarded hands.
Regulations, 13.69F:14.15 (d) (PDF p.497)

That first sentence could read either way: "To be considered a winner, a hand must be clearly and completely shown and properly identified" or "The showdown requires a winning hand to be shown."

Running it twice is still in "Temporary Regulations":

http://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/docs/TempRe...onsrevised.pdf

Straddling and buying the button is also in there.

Thank you for finding it

The borgata does have a brief poker guide available
Which does have rules. About a month ago
One of the shift managers informed me that
They're working on a rulebook. ..

https://twitter.com/borgatapoker/sta...02563623014400

Thanks, wondering why it's not on the website yet.

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If I have chips on the table at 1-2 do I still earn comp dollars while away from the table ? Thank you

Yes, you earn comp dollars for as long as you're clocked in. Borgata doesn't use the Bravo system's sit-out feature. That's mentioned in the FAQ in the first post of the thread, I believe.

depending on how busy it is they will pick your chips up when you get a 3rd "absent" button, which when a dealer starts their new down at the table, they throw the absent buttons at the seats that the players arent there. if you time it correctly (ie play 1 hand of a new dealer), you get an hour away with comps

if it's real busy, you'll get picked up pretty quickly. if it's slow, i've seen people get a 4th button.

Seven 2-4 LHE tables at 1:20 pm

any plans of a fall poker series after the deepstack series next month?