I heard there are some rule changes which are scheduled to start in the beginning of the year for the room - but don't have complete details. They include putting payers in the lobby when they are away from the table (not sure when you are put into the lobby - ie: leave the table, miss a blind or new dealer arrives at table). Other rule changes involve the handling of absent buttons and also putting money in a pot - calling a bet (not realizing someone made a raise) and not being able to fold and take your money back.

If anyone has more details - please feel free to share and comment.

Thanks

I heard the same thing about putting players into the lobby when they miss a blind from a dealer who wishes to remain anonymous.

He mentioned it is becoming a problem with players leaving for an hour, coming back for 10 mins, then leaving for an hour and repeating this all day.

Heard the same this week.

What I heard about the absent buttons is that you have to play the full down in order to give your buttons back to the dealer. This way you can't just sit for one hand and then get up and walk for another hour.

Around 5:30am, the big #badbeat hit! Congrats to Vadim B. ($123,110), Robert G. ($61,556) & four additional players ($30,778 ea.)!

When does the $15/night go into effect?

Walkers are my biggest complaint about the room. This should help a lot.


Please elaborate.

The fifteen bucks a night room fee. When is it going from 5 to 15?

I thought Jan 4th.

Access to Gym and probably the lowest level of wifi included now.

On Borgata's website, below the Reservations calendar"

The rule change to kill walking is fine.

But I no longer will consider a comped room a comped room. Comped means free. $15/night is steep when I can get a room in a flea bag for just slightly more and not have to play a mandatory X hours a day to earn the room. It means an 8 minute drive each way, but no pressure to play long sessions, which is higher EV for my hourly.

This will also influence whether I go down at all, as I can just stay home and drive to The Sands or Mount Airy without the work of taking a trip.

I love the Borgata and it is a great room, but I don't like being nickled and dimed and hustled. If the room calendar just said $15 instead of comped, I could respect that. But what is a resort fee anyway? What does that mean? Isn't it just a minimum room charge? Who gets the resort fee? If the State gets it, I will let the B off the hook and chalk it up to just another tax. But if it's just a contribution to profit then I'm not on board and it will affect my reservation frequency.

I may protest in the form of cancelling my 5 day stay for Jan 7-11. 5 days is $75 in nuisance fees. Except $15/night is no longer a nuisance fee, it's a straight up room charge.

I think if you make or have made your reservation before Jan 4th you won't have to pay the new fee. They would have to honor the price they agreed to when you booked the room right?

Or do they mean any check in on or after Jan 4th will have to start paying the resort fee?

Did a search and the last info I found was from over a year ago, so wanted to see if anyone had some experience lately.

Anyone able to check in to a comped room earlier than the posted time? I know on the email/website it says check in time is 4pm or whatever, but I'd like to see if I could get in significantly earlier than that.

As of now, I just have Saturday booked, but want to play the whole weekend. If I go on Friday evening and play all night, do you think I'd be able to check in around 8:00-9:00 am or so and sleep?

Earlier in the thread people mentioned getting rooms at 7am and at noon, anyone do anything like this lately? Knowing my chances may affect whether I come down Friday or not...

I've checked in many times at about 9am - which is when I usually arrive when I play. About 80% of the time - a room is available and I can get a room key. Those 20% of the time a room is not ready - they can take care of the paperwork and text you when the first room is available to pick up your key.

I think your chances of being able to get into a room at 8am is strong - but not 100% certain.

You can check in as early as 8-9am , your odds go up with a 10ski on your palm.

Thank you. Personally, I'm happy with the amount of comped rooms I somehow end up with, and if it means paying an extra $10 per night... so be it. At least a little offset with the wifi, which I usually use, and maybe the wife will use the gym?

Yes, I still prefer to pay for what I use. I expect a bunch of griping, but not much to change.

They mean check-ins starting January 4, I think. I made a reservation for later in January a couple months ago, and the new fee was already in the fine print then.

You know, I understand your overall message, but even with $15 total fee, it's still a bargain compared to what you can get elsewhere, including a flea bag room for just slightly more. 5 days for $75 is hardly a high price, especially considering it covers a weekend. I get it, we're all used to paying less. Frankly, I'm glad it took them this long for them to raise the fee. But for me, I'll gladly take the free room for $15 a night. Any night.

This is a little misguided. The second you swipe your card in to play (or check in), you're basically obligated to play a long session if you want comped rooms. Unless you're just saying screw it, you'll never want a comped room again, then sure, do what you said.

Honestly 15/night is still a bargain for a hotel that is that nice comparatively to staying in absecon or someplace else in ac. Plus having access to the gym (15/night) and wifi in the room (10/night) isnt too bad for 10/night. there are plenty of times I would have liked to go for a quick run or something but couldn't justify paying 15 bucks to do it.

If you plan on playing for less than 8 hours on a given day, then simply don't swipe your card anywhere in the resort that day. This way your high daily average will stay intact. I do this often on Sundays when I wake up and only want to play a couple hours before heading home

Oh, that's one thing. You can bet I will be doing my weights every day now. I have also avoided the gym rather than pay the freight. But now the freight is confiscated, so I will be doing my workout every playing day. That's actually a good thing. I play better when my workout schedule is normal.

Yes, I already do that. Unless I plan 8+ hours on a given day, my card stays in the wallet. However, when you are on a multi-day trip, you need to play the 8+ every day to protect your comps. I'll live with all this, it's just another annoyance. Most hotels are ripping off people with nuisance charges. It's the way the industry works these days.

Will B wave the $15 fee for black card players as CET does for diamond players?

Anon borg floor says: You can only give 1 absent button back per half hour, and you will only get clocked back in when you have zero. So if you return at 5:30 to two buttons, You give one back and can't start earning time again until 6:00.

Don't think they would design a nuisance fee that excludes those who are there most frequently.

My conclusion is that The $15 per night is to help pay for services that most people may not have been using already, including in-room WiFi and the gym.

These services are not free for Borgata to offer.

I do not like the $15 per night in fees. But I still feel that I am getting a terrific value when I stay at Borgata.

If you check in on or after Jan 4th you will have to start paying the resort fee.