this is not true and once again, unfair. you are entitled to your own opinion though.

there are many reasons why one may have different accounts. although most reasons can raise an eyebrow, it doesnt mean those reasons all have to be shady.

i'm not the smartest guy, but i do know that wise people look at things unobjectively until there is concrete evidence to form a judgement.

It most certainly would be enough evidence for a civil case all that is required is a preponderance of evidence and there is more than enough evidence.

It is like the OJ case, criminal case he won, wrongful death civil case he lost. At least the next time he showed up for court the judge hammered him into the ground.

If you are willing to turn a blind eye to one coincidence after another of th associations these chip dumpers had to the OP through RoSeeker/Nostalgica then you can draw that conclusion otherwise your logic is flawed and you lack an understanding of the civil legal system.

Thanks for the "facts". We really need more people in this thread chiming in with a lack of perspective that say nothing meaningful.

Inherently nothing is wrong with MAing on 2p2, facebook I don't know if it is in the terms and conditions or not so I couldn't say.

If you do not see anything wrong with a 2p2 user 'stealthly' advocating for someone under 2 different names in a prop bet where the user exposed himself as a person MAing on Stars with ties to multiple people that dropped in at the end of the bet to drop enough chips to make the OP a winner then you must operate under a different set of ethics than most.

GG bud

•objective - undistorted by emotion or personal bias; based on observable phenomena; "an objective appraisal"; "objective evidence"

Not only are you not that good on the legal system you don't have a tight grasp on the english language.

nothing, but given that he also decided to multiaccount pokerstars and facebook it makes it incredibly lol

it is certainly arguable enough to warrant further investigation but not enough to get a case off the ground. there is obviously a link between the accused parties but no proof of anything substantial. with that being said, it wouldnt be correct strategy to try and bring this case any further than the investigation stage as of now.

the oj case is not a fair comparison.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...m/Buyer+beware

thank you for the correction. i did say i'm not the smartest guy. but thats what i meant anyway.

ok, carry on with your witch hunt boys.

Thank you, please to be not coming back.

+1

5.8. CHIP-DUMPING. Chip-dumping occurs when any User intentionally loses a hand in order to deliberately transfer his chips to another User. Any User who chip-dumps or attempts to chip-dump with any other User while using the Service may be permanently banned from using the Service and their account may be terminated immediately. In such circumstances PokerStars will be under no obligation to refund to you any monies that may be in your PokerStars account at such time.

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos/

No exceptions for cash games.

I agree, let's keep it to the facts and defensible conclusions. He's not a scumbag--he's a cheater. Big difference.

what Sol Reader did/were accused of doing? btw, he's a coach for one training site.

Full confession in writing and all monies returned to proper owners? Keep private.

Any other result? Post everything after a reasonable waiting period.

multi-accounting, lying about multi-accounting, being a ****** and leaving a **** storm of evidence on 2p2 and on the net about the above, acting shady as **** when preaching he is an ambassador for the community etc.

oh and:

can u please give me his sn he posts under here? i want to check his posts.

Roseeker and Nostalgica are the known ones thus far

OH SNAP he told on you???? Careful, he's young you might get an angry phone call from his mummy soon.

Hey mate, what evidence would be good enough for you to prove chip dumping? In this situation we have a series of multiple extremely unlikey 'coincidences' that no way in hell any reasonable person could say they happened by chance alone. If the evidence here isn't good enough for you, then the only thing that would be is video evidence of them agreeing to cheat or a straight out admission from the guilty parties - neither of which we you are gonna get. If we go by your logic, in future everyone should just cheat if they are losing a prop bet as bar video evidence they will get away with it.

And we have already had a lawyers input on this -

There comes a point where you have to say 'with all the evidence, is it now beyond coincidence that all this happened?'. And yes it is waay way beyond coincidence. People have been convicted for murder with circumstantial evidence so compelling that it was felt the facts in case were just way too unlikely to be coincidental.

I mean, he does kinda sound like a scumbag

ya plus has anyone ever even got infraction points for calling someone a scumbag?

It's "English," you Moran.

is there a reason nomeansno hasn't been banned yet? i mean i dunno if he's explicitly breaking any rules that could qualify him to get banned......but still

ahahahahahah WHAT