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all the cool kids have already blocked harrington

why block someone that will be banned by tomorrow?

is that the way this forum works lol , say something that some people dont agree with and then get banned . iv not exactly committed first degree murder . just cos im in the minority u feel i need banning , bit school playground isnt it . but il still stick to my opinion that he should be payed .

This message is hidden because harrington1 is obviously a total ******.

It's not just what you said. It's the pure stupidity behind the words that proves your posts are not worth reading.

+1

Harrington, you are the biggest ****** ever. I cant believe it, how the f can you be so dumb..

And, pay Gary his money, he's the best playah on pokahstahs

Hypo question:

What if Stars comes here and posts the following: "We have investigated all accounts mentioned and can find no connection (IP, transfer, etc). We have also reviewed all hands played by Gary with all holecards revealed and have found no irregularities. We are clearing Gary of all wrong doing."

Would you guys still think he was guilty? I have zero affiliation w Gary, but it just seems like the "mob mentality" has completely taken over and nothing Stars says will change anybody's mind. If that is the case, why drag this out? Something always seemed off with this bet from start to finish and I'm glad to see that my instincts MIGHT be right, but the level of ******ation displayed by 90% of the posters in this thread is sad.

sorry OP , tried to be on your side but all the 2k posters are ganging up on me and im scared now . hope you get your money .

Mobs have a bad rep. They are usually right when they lynch someone.

+1
Stereotypes are mostly true as well.

steel108,

I agree it shouldn't be dragged out any longer. It's clear what action should be taken.

Have there been cliffnotes made for this thread? Seems pretty interesting but its hudge.If anyone could hook that up id be thankfull

cliffs?

Cliffs have been posted many times already.
I can understand that you don't want to read this prop bet turned trainwreck thread but you could at least browse for cliffs.

Oh wow, I live in Gaithersburg/North Potomac but I'm actually moving to Germantown within a couple of days!

Lol if anyone wants cliffs, just search this thread for "cliffs" and you'll find like 10 of them

Well just so long as its usually, I'd hate for innocent ppl to often get lynched.

A hand like 86 could be misread as 88 preflop just as A4 can be mistaken for AA. I think Gary admitted he reraised on purpose, just saying in general that these things can happen, and once you realize it you an feel compelled to follow through for the rest of the hand.

BTW, don't you guys think if Gary was going to chip dump he would have done it early in the bet and not late, where it would be way more suspicious?

so what happens if stars finds him innocent?

i dont think its fair at this point to assume gary and/or his friends to be competent or intelligent.

So who makes the final decision about whether Gary gets paid or not?

people start flaming stars for being to tough with their collusion rules and the problem remains unsolved

Cliffs:

-Marginally losing 1/2 player Gary Neville (who is apparently going for SNE) makes 30k hands in 1 day + profit bet
-Blackize offers services as judge
-Webcam is setup showing Gary (was only down for about 10 minutes total, early on)
-There was a request to tilt the cam a little bit more toward the screen which was ignored and/or not noticed (perhaps understandable given hardcore multitabling?)

-Gary sinks about 7 buyins, then turns it around and goes up several buyins
-Gary goes back slightly into the red with only a couple thousand hands left to play
-"Suspicious" hand with a player named breez occurs where breez 5bet shoves T7o and Gary calls with QQ.
-One other hand with breez involved Gary 3betting something like 86o and two barreling after which breez folds.
-Nostalgica chimes in:
then later:
-Breez was previously a 10nl/micro sng player with no history at 200nl
-Gary wins bet by 16 dollars

-Blackize recruits jalex to help with judging
-RoSeeker defends Gary and admits to knowing him
-Mods force RoSeeker to admit that he is also Nostalgica
-RoSeeker/Nostalgica is thus friends with both Gary and breez
-Another micro snger, StoppedClock, who is friends with RoSeeker is revealed to have lost some money to Gary (again no history at 200nl)
-Stars was asked to investigate (no results yet AFAIK)

-BBV thread by breez titled "anyone else get s***tfaced and lose their roll tonight" (paraphrasing)
-BBV thread criticizing Gary for berating fish, where RoSeeker and OreosAndMilk (= StoppedClock?) both defend him

I'm sure I missed some things. Anyway, the hand histories weren't suspicious in a vacuum. Overall the picture looks super shady, BUT in my opinion the evidence probably isn't strong enough to not give Gary the win... unless Stars says otherwise. Wait for Stars. Tough call though, I'm glad I'm not blackize.

RoSeeker, did you have a piece of Gary's action??