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03-25-2010 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by afkBRB
Because that's what innocent people do when they're falsely accused ldo
Lol at your location. It will be impossible to hide from Jalex. If there is an IP address within 5 miles from you, he will find you!

Oh and damn! Please tell me someone has a pic of him. I was hoping to get a best photoshop contest of him once the verdict was out. Bummers....
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03-25-2010 , 11:58 PM









and the best one for this thread imo..

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03-26-2010 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by IcyFlops
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...o#post14771958


Damn, I'm sorry theayo I really didn't realize you were a respected poster here at 2p2.

Clearly you were involved in this now you have 2 people that are going to dig up what you have been up to and I'm sure jalex is going to include your PS name in a follow up report to PS as I'm sure he has gathered more details. He just seems to own you ass-clowns in ways like that


Chris Damick

PS Id - cjoseph07
FT Id - cjoseph

Just to give you a little more search engine 'visibility'


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Originally Posted by theayo
lol you're all so ugly..gary wins
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03-26-2010 , 12:07 AM
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03-26-2010 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenSmoke85
I get your enjoying your moment in the sun, but can you cut it with the sort of creepish edge in your posts. Again me and 2p2 really appreciate the time you've taken on this but the smugness is really getting old.imo
you don't speak for 2+2. his smugness is pretty awesome and justified, and we all appreciate him for what he's done (except Gary)
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03-26-2010 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nostalgica
The guy was playing 100NL HU afterewards.
btw, he's a solid beginner player, and I've talked to him some on msn since like a year ago. He played like 25NL and 180s. IDK wtf he was doing there...
I think if they were gonna chip dump they'd do it way earlier in the match and not the end, right? when everyone is watching.
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Originally Posted by Nostalgica
He was playing on other tables with less than full stack. It seems that he sat out because he ran out of money... he moved to 100NL afterwards, played for a bit, then quit.

edit: PTR isn't showing it though, but I was watching him reraise/folding to another player and then call down with some weak hand with a 60bb stack and losing.
This is better suited for werewolf detective work as it's lengthy and doesn't prove anything, butttt something else to think about. Your second post doesn't exactly sync up with what happened. If you pull up the PTR session where breez lost you can see it was spread out over 3 tables and 14 minutes.
http://www.**********************/st...sions/breeezzz

1) First hand played is at table Laomedon V at 11:13, 2 more hands are played
2) Same table 4 hands later is the hand where Gary has 86o on AJ6K, hand starts at 11:13
3) On a new table Ginevra II at 11:14 is the QQvT7o hand, only hand played by breez at this table
4) At 11:18 breez joins table Mitaka IV, Gary is not at this table.
5) At 11:19 breez raise/4bet/folds on Mitaka, it's his third hand at the table
6) At 11:20 back on Laomedon breez loses $121 (60.5bb) w/ A5s when he calls down vs a short stacker
7) Breez wraps up session on Laomedon at 11:23
8) Breez wraps up session on Mitaka at 11:25 after winning some money back
9) Breez starts HU session at 11:30, plays 22 hands, and leaves at 11:38

So this is really only important because the only hand where he was reraising/folding was on a table that Gary was not on. Look through the session history at all other 3 tables, you will not be able to find a hand to describe like this. So basically for Roseeker to have noticed that pf 4b/f hand the timing would be quite tight (ie unlikely). He would have had to notice Breez coincidentally join two of Garys tables between 11:13 and 11:18. He would then have to basically be researching for breez every minute or so to find out that he joined a third table. Once more after he's done watching Breez blow off all this money by 11:25, he continues to search his tables out and catches the HU game which starts 5 minutes later.

We already know Roseeker is a scumbag liar, but he's almost certainly trying to cover up the chip dump in the thread at the time (imo).
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03-26-2010 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenSmoke85
I get your enjoying your moment in the sun, but can you cut it with the sort of creepish edge in your posts. Again me and 2p2 really appreciate the time you've taken on this but the smugness is really getting old.imo
Maybe if you had a team of scumbag thieves gang up attacking you personally when you were chosen to be an impartial judge, and do a good job at it, you might rightfully get a little blood thirsty yourself.

Watching Internet justice getting dealt out is like watching the sausage get made.

When does this matter come to a head as far as the judges ruling on this matter and money getting returned---->awarded?

Last edited by Slap My Jack; 03-26-2010 at 12:29 AM. Reason: ty icyflops for noticing my error
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03-26-2010 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Slap My Jack
Maybe if you had a team of scumbag thieves gang up attacking you personally when you were chosen to be an impartial judge, and do a good job at it, you might rightfully get a little blood thirsty yourself.

Watching Internet justice getting dealt out is like watching the sausage get made.

When does this matter come to a head as far as the judges ruling on this matter and money awarded to bettors?
FYP.
Only one fair outcome here really the preponderance of the evidence is there.

Last edited by IcyFlops; 03-26-2010 at 12:29 AM. Reason: Ima bold tard
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03-26-2010 , 12:30 AM
cliffs?
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03-26-2010 , 12:37 AM
the smartest thing i have done in the preceding two weeks is recommend jalex as a judge
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03-26-2010 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by terp
the smartest thing i have done in the preceding two weeks is recommend jalex as a judge
the dumbest thing was betting on this to begin with :P
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03-26-2010 , 12:50 AM
No idea what's happening but it sure looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8trhBy2DLE

First to make this reference (pls pls?)
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03-26-2010 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jalexand42
What's DtD?



Also, anyone have any idea why Gary's blog, Facebook picture, and weaktight friends all the sudden disappeared if he's innocent?

Surely he knows I already have screenshots of all of that, right?

you sir, are the ****ing nuts!
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03-26-2010 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
fwiw, since people keep referring to the fact that he "only won by $20" - he won by $20 because he got into a position where he could fold his way to victory by being up more than $0.50 * num hands remaining. You can't really posit that without breez giving him $250, he'd have lost by $230 - he would have played the end differently and he may have won anyway, or he may have lost spectacularly, but what definitely WOULDN'T have happened is him folding the remainder of his hands while being down.
I respect you.

I respect what you're saying.

I was just stating a relevant fact. You are stating a maybe woulda coulda might've. Which might have could have would have possibly if the conditions had been as you say.

Your point is taken.

Gary hasn't shown an ability historically to "finish solid."

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. So if you have someone who is multiaccounting on 2+2, they are more likely to be a multiaccounter on Pokerstars than your average Joe. Similarly, if you have someone who is a consistent loser (exclusive of rakeback) like Gary, you are safer to assume he will finish in a similarly consistent way.
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03-26-2010 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by starrazz
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. So if you have someone who is multiaccounting on 2+2, they are more likely to be a multiaccounter on Pokerstars than your average Joe. Similarly, if you have someone who is a consistent loser (exclusive of rakeback) like Gary, you are safer to assume he will finish in a similarly consistent way.
yeah because multi accounting on 2+2 is the same thing as breaking stars TOS and multi accounting there; and just because someone is a bad player doesn't mean they are a ******. Stop it you are not helping
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03-26-2010 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Transa
cliffs?
Losing player makes prop bet that he will play 30K hands in 1 day and be winning w/o rakeback.

His friend posts support for him, advocating for him under 2 seperate 2p2 accounts.
- Admits this openly in thread after being asked by a Mod to explan himself

His friend has players that play micro stakes come dump some chips to him in the end to push him over the hump.
-Players he has coached in the past with links to him on other websites foud by jalex

Same person with 2 accounts on 2p2 in the most idiotic fashion outs himself as having 2 accounts on PokerStars.

They have since disappeared after jalexander42 an impartial judge pwned them all.

Thats pretty much it.

But it is an entertaining read, if you like trainwrecks and cheaters/multi accounters busting themselves by their own stupidity then I highly recommend closer examination

Last edited by IcyFlops; 03-26-2010 at 01:04 AM. Reason: added a few details
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03-26-2010 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ponDragon
As much as it seems to everyone (including me) that Gary received outside help and should lose, I definitely don't think prop bets with this much money on the line should be decided by that small of a margin. I'm not going to argue what % should be the deciding line for a propbet, but lol @ 51%
That's the % for every civil litigation case in America, small and large. It's a perfectly good standard.
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03-26-2010 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by clyro
This thread is out of control!

I think Roseeker (?) HAS to post transfer history or at least PM it to judges, he has no reason not to if there's nothing to see and he would to help his friend in this mess
Pretty hard to transfer history when you've been banned. He HAS been banned, right? And his aka Nostalgica? And have they been outed in the coaching and staking forums too? Or do I have to do everything around here LOL
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03-26-2010 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by theayo
give gary his money. he won.
No Means No!
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03-26-2010 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Gene Fish
and add interest
and ban everyone who said he was guilty, starting with me. Well ok starting with Jalex and then me and then fish and everyone else.
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03-26-2010 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PJo336
At this point it seems the only thing Gary has going for him is that Starrazz is on the opposing side
bump
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03-26-2010 , 01:30 AM
It's going to a travesty if Gary and his crew get their escrow money back.
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03-26-2010 , 01:31 AM
so what has happened with the escrowed funds?
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03-26-2010 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by waow
bump
was it something I said? lol
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03-26-2010 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RU18LOL
so what has happened with the escrowed funds?
still being held awaiting stars verdict or confession...i think if stars finds him guilty it's going to be super easy with no controversy...otherwise blackize will have to make a decision that some people will object to...so he might as well wait until all evidence comes in to make it easier on himself. might take them a few weeks...who knows?
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