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03-27-2010 , 09:00 AM
Judges should give the maniez to jalex.
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03-27-2010 , 09:00 AM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=283
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Originally Posted by Nostalgica
Posted in LC/NC. Just thought I'd share.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=791
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Originally Posted by Nostalgica
I hate bodog so much. They don't let me withdraw because I haven't played enough. I am annoyed beyond annoyed. The support is terrible, interface is slow, and the fine print is ridiculous and shady.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=793

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Originally Posted by Nostalgica
Well they aren't stealing it per se, but they are using ridiculous stipulations that don't show class at all, basically saying that you must play X amount on our site before you can cash out, whereas this wouldn't be an issue with most other sites. They just want us to stay and spend/lose money on their casino or sports betting game or whatever, and keep the money in the system longer, obviously. They aren't going to take my money directly, but I only have a little money on there, not enough to play a session and the software is so horrible it's highly -life ev for me to play, so I really might just go and flip it or something with someone until I have payed enough rake to withdraw.

But basically this, along with the horrible software makes me want to have nothing to do with this site. I've withdrawn from FTP and Stars loads but have come back with deposits also, because everything is smooth and fine, but wow. They locked my site because I've lost money and want to stop playing? The big sites have responsible gambling ads, and they FORCE you to gamble even when you don't want to. What a contrast. Seems sort of unethical almost.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=285
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Originally Posted by Nostalgica
Uhm, Stars and Full Tilt? Are you serious? They had always allowed this. Why am I not allowed to withdraw while clearing the deposit bonus? It's not like I'm given money up front. The majority of players don't clear their deposit bonuses on time, so, what they can never withdraw?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=287
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Originally Posted by Nostalgica
What...? I am frustrated, but perfectly reasonable.

If you truly do not want to respond, then you would have simply not responded, instead of throwing in an insult and acting as if you're aloof and that I am beneath your attention or something.

You have made cheap insults and acted rudely. Please, pray tell, what are my misconducts that you feel that I deserve being called a drama queen? Ranting in an LC/NC thread about not being able to withdraw my own money? Considering the amount of bad beats in that thread, I think you have a fairly thin argument there.

So really, why do you contradict yourself, and lie? FTP has never disallowed withdrawals and transfers while bonuses are being cleared, and you say otherwise, as if it's the most obvious thing ever, too.

now this is an interesting series of posts just before the prop bet started with Nostalgica so indignant about not being able to withdraw from bodog .Any evidence of collusion ,....no ....just highly entertaining with his moral outrage about the shady terms and conditions, contradicting yourself and lieing.
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03-27-2010 , 09:46 AM
Yeh Nostalgica/Roseeker enjoys to portray a facade of intelligence, culture and reason. It's Lol.

His posts about poetry are certainly worth a read for comic value.
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03-27-2010 , 10:48 AM
Wait where is there anything about multi-accounting facebook? Remember that OreosAndMilk/00Doug has basically not been linked to any of the dumping/cheating and was only brought up because he is friends with the people who were. I believe Jalex said a few pages back that he didn't think he was guilty of anything other than having friends who are scumbags. Just because he defended Gary at the very start doesn't mean he should be in any way tied in with this. He made a decent post a bit back in this thread. If you're going to attack people at least make sure you're right about it before you do.
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03-27-2010 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by zachvac
Wait where is there anything about multi-accounting facebook? Remember that OreosAndMilk/00Doug has basically not been linked to any of the dumping/cheating and was only brought up because he is friends with the people who were. I believe Jalex said a few pages back that he didn't think he was guilty of anything other than having friends who are scumbags. Just because he defended Gary at the very start doesn't mean he should be in any way tied in with this. He made a decent post a bit back in this thread. If you're going to attack people at least make sure you're right about it before you do.
RoSeeker had two accounts on facebook, both of which have since been removed.

To be clear, there's obviously nothing wrong with multiaccounting 2p2 (unless you use multiple accounts to defend your friend in the same thread), and there's nothing wrong with having multiple facebook accounts as far as I know.

As someone commented, it's just kinda funny he has multiple accounts on every site.
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03-27-2010 , 10:58 AM
God guys, how can you accuse a highly paid, Premiership footballer of pulling a scam in a prop bet were the $$ are meaningless to him. Get a clue kids!!!
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03-27-2010 , 11:03 AM
I miss Roseeker
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03-27-2010 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jalexand42
As someone commented, it's just kinda funny he has multiple accounts on every site.
Maybe he just has multiple personalities brah.
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03-27-2010 , 11:19 AM
Yeah obv nothing wrong with multiple 2p2 accounts my other account is jalexand42
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03-27-2010 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sjp507
Yeh Nostalgica/Roseeker enjoys to portray a facade of intelligence, culture and reason. It's Lol.

His posts about poetry are certainly worth a read for comic value.
It was only a matter of time before wikipedia developed an article on him.
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03-27-2010 , 11:30 AM
I had no dog in this hunt. But looking objectively at all the evidence, it's clear that chip dumping was done. Nonethleless, Stars will probably just give their usual "we can't discuss any specific action we've taken against any specific players blah blah blah." Judges, it's time to award the money to those betting against Neville.
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03-27-2010 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Masq
It seems Joey often does this stuff when there's prop bets on volume. It obviously hurts his action on future bets.
It obviously hurts his action of attention whoreyness for sure
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03-27-2010 , 11:43 AM
I have 2 facebook accounts so that one can date the other
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03-27-2010 , 11:50 AM
i don't get how this Gary dude can be so stupid when he was up something like 1,5K with 5K hands to go and he didn't start to play it safe, how god awful u must be to not understand simple thing as that.
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03-27-2010 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bwdtw
i don't get how this Gary dude can be so stupid when he was up something like 1,5K with 5K hands to go and he didn't start to play it safe, how god awful u must be to not understand simple thing as that.
the level of incompetency by gary and roseeker in this debacle is amazing and the reason the whole thread is so ****ing funny.
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03-27-2010 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PJo336
I have 2 facebook accounts so that one can date the other
lol'd
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03-27-2010 , 01:01 PM
cliffs?
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03-27-2010 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NANONUTS
Hey mate, what evidence would be good enough for you to prove chip dumping? In this situation we have a series of multiple extremely unlikey 'coincidences' that no way in hell any reasonable person could say they happened by chance alone. If the evidence here isn't good enough for you, then the only thing that would be is video evidence of them agreeing to cheat or a straight out admission from the guilty parties - neither of which we you are gonna get. If we go by your logic, in future everyone should just cheat if they are losing a prop bet as bar video evidence they will get away with it.

And we have already had a lawyers input on this -



There comes a point where you have to say 'with all the evidence, is it now beyond coincidence that all this happened?'. And yes it is waay way beyond coincidence. People have been convicted for murder with circumstantial evidence so compelling that it was felt the facts in case were just way too unlikely to be coincidental.
since you are being civil about this, i will respond.

yes, you have enough evidence to suggest that there may have been some foul play here.

no, its not enough to say op had any knowledge of it. op could very well be an innocent victim here. thats the problem here.

as you can see, the judges are still out. there is a reason for this. there is definate correlation here, but not a direct link as of yet.

3rd party evidence:

http://nycrimbar.org/Members/briefs/ThirdPartyGuilt.pdf

there is an obvious rush to judgement consensus in here. now, why the hell would one want to do that when your so close to a possible direct link?

keep digging, if there is one, it will probably be found.

until then, keep alerting op so he can cover up his tracks you dumbass's.
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03-27-2010 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bwdtw
i don't get how this Gary dude can be so stupid when he was up something like 1,5K with 5K hands to go and he didn't start to play it safe, how god awful u must be to not understand simple thing as that.
exactly, so why would op be guilty of any wrong doing when you have this side of the evidence suggesting he played it "straight up".

he's definately guilty of not being strategically smart.

yes yes, i know, its all part of a gigantic ploy to add epicness to the finality of the prop bet.

the judges are still out....... as they should be.

until then, you genius's with the pitch forks should go watch porn or munch on a hotpocket.
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03-27-2010 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2slick
since you are being civil about this, i will respond.

yes, you have enough evidence to suggest that there may have been some foul play here.

no, its not enough to say op had any knowledge of it. op could very well be an innocent victim here. thats the problem here.

as you can see, the judges are still out. there is a reason for this. there is definate correlation here, but not a direct link as of yet.

3rd party evidence:

http://nycrimbar.org/Members/briefs/ThirdPartyGuilt.pdf

there is an obvious rush to judgement consensus in here. now, why the hell would one want to do that when your so close to a possible direct link?

keep digging, if there is one, it will probably be found.

until then, keep alerting op so he can cover up his tracks you dumbass's.

Good read, I guess thats why OJ won his case
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03-27-2010 , 01:28 PM
Please, pray tell, have there been any new developments in this fascinating trainwreck?
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03-27-2010 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bwdtw
i don't get how this Gary dude can be so stupid when he was up something like 1,5K with 5K hands to go and he didn't start to play it safe, how god awful u must be to not understand simple thing as that.
You have to understand that this is not someone with all of his tools fully sharpened and neatly stored in alphabetical order in his tidy tool shed.

A normal person would have been getting about 11 hours of sleep right up until 5:45am; Gary was up playing headsup PLO with RoSeeker at 3:30 in the morning just hours before the prop. And he had been up for 12 hours already at the beginning of the prop.

A normal person would have had an ergonomically correct desk setup to ease neck strain and facilitate a very, very long road to hoe...and then there's Gary's set up.

A normal person would fuel their body and mind properly for such a grueling endeavor...and then there's Gary's fast food junk.

A normal person would not have cheated to win a prop bet. And then there's Gary.

A normal person would have plotted in advance a chart showing them what amount of money they have to hit at which numbered hand for them to be able to safely fold their way to 30K and still make a profit. This chart would have probably triggered at some point being up about $1500 with a few thousand hands to go. And then there's Gary "I gamble you" Neville.

And finally, a normal person would make sure they are a long term winner (100K hands at a stake) before publicly entertaining ideas of being the world's second ever Asian SNE and a member of Team Pokerstars.

"Congratulations, Gary, you have achieved SNE. For multi-tabling 10 hours a day, 364 days a year, I am happy to report to you that your reward for such hard work is:

Spoiler:
You have broken even.
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03-27-2010 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by starrazz
You have to understand that this is not someone with all of his tools fully sharpened and neatly stored in alphabetical order in his tidy tool shed.

A normal person would have been getting about 11 hours of sleep right up until 5:45am; Gary was up playing headsup PLO with RoSeeker at 3:30 in the morning just hours before the prop. And he had been up for 12 hours already at the beginning of the prop.

A normal person would have had an ergonomically correct desk setup to ease neck strain and facilitate a very, very long road to hoe...and then there's Gary's set up.

A normal person would fuel their body and mind properly for such a grueling endeavor...and then there's Gary's fast food junk.

A normal person would not have cheated to win a prop bet. And then there's Gary.

A normal person would have plotted in advance a chart showing them what amount of money they have to hit at which numbered hand for them to be able to safely fold their way to 30K and still make a profit. This chart would have probably triggered at some point being up about $1500 with a few thousand hands to go. And then there's Gary "I gamble you" Neville.

And finally, a normal person would make sure they are a long term winner (100K hands at a stake) before publicly entertaining ideas of being the world's second ever Asian SNE and a member of Team Pokerstars.

"Congratulations, Gary, you have achieved SNE. For multi-tabling 10 hours a day, 364 days a year, I am happy to report to you that your reward for such hard work is:

Spoiler:
You have broken even.


good post. nice spoiler.
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03-27-2010 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by starrazz
You have to understand that this is not someone with all of his tools fully sharpened and neatly stored in alphabetical order in his tidy tool shed.

A normal person would have been getting about 11 hours of sleep right up until 5:45am; Gary was up playing headsup PLO with RoSeeker at 3:30 in the morning just hours before the prop. And he had been up for 12 hours already at the beginning of the prop.

A normal person would have had an ergonomically correct desk setup to ease neck strain and facilitate a very, very long road to hoe...and then there's Gary's set up.

A normal person would fuel their body and mind properly for such a grueling endeavor...and then there's Gary's fast food junk.

A normal person would not have cheated to win a prop bet. And then there's Gary.

A normal person would have plotted in advance a chart showing them what amount of money they have to hit at which numbered hand for them to be able to safely fold their way to 30K and still make a profit. This chart would have probably triggered at some point being up about $1500 with a few thousand hands to go. And then there's Gary "I gamble you" Neville.

And finally, a normal person would make sure they are a long term winner (100K hands at a stake) before publicly entertaining ideas of being the world's second ever Asian SNE and a member of Team Pokerstars.

"Congratulations, Gary, you have achieved SNE. For multi-tabling 10 hours a day, 364 days a year, I am happy to report to you that your reward for such hard work is:

Spoiler:
You have broken even.
lol this is pretty good
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03-27-2010 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2slick
exactly, so why would op be guilty of any wrong doing when you have this side of the evidence suggesting he played it "straight up".

he's definately guilty of not being strategically smart.

yes yes, i know, its all part of a gigantic ploy to add epicness to the finality of the prop bet.

the judges are still out....... as they should be.

until then, you genius's with the pitch forks should go watch porn or munch on a hotpocket.
WTF you said you were leaving. Now you have to post more uninformed OPINION as if it's ****ing facts. Get a hobby loser.
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