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08-21-2016 , 01:34 AM
Now that was a card!

Hell of a fight...I was on yelling at the TV the whole way. Didn't think Connor was going to make it to the end.
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08-21-2016 , 01:39 AM
Takedowns make the difference in a fight. Conor had 3, while nate 0. Conor TOTALLY dominated round 1 and 2, while nate won round 3 and partially dominated round 4 because conor was able to defend himself pretty good and that gives points too. Round 5 was nothing really as they stood on the cage for the whole round basically and at the end conor defended pretty good the take to the floor which was at the end and didn't accomplish nothing for the fight as the bell rang.

Visually, the fight looked pretty tight but technically it wasn't. Nate is a machine for taking all those hits.
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08-21-2016 , 01:42 AM
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yeah, conor can't really keep being champion while taking random fights in other weight classes. I'd absolutely watch Conor vs Diaz again, or Conor vs any high level 155er. But you can't take 3 fights in a row outside 145 and still hold the belt at 145.

Conor's got two options: Fight Jose Aldo at 145 or give up the belt. Smart move would be to fight Jose - the appetite for that fight is huge and I completely agree Diaz #3 can wait.
Conor will probably go back next fight for Aldo, if he wins, they'll make a tittle fight for 155 between him and Nate the fight right after.
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08-21-2016 , 02:00 AM
I can't see any real way to give Diaz the second round. He got knocked down twice, and was outboxed for the first 3 minutes at least, and then did really well the last minute. But the gap to overcome 'knocked down twice' is huge, and flurrying for 30 seconds at the end doesn't do it for me.
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08-21-2016 , 02:07 AM
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I can't see any real way to give Diaz the second round. He got knocked down twice, and was outboxed for the first 3 minutes at least, and then did really well the last minute. But the gap to overcome 'knocked down twice' is huge, and flurrying for 30 seconds at the end doesn't do it for me.
Wasn't it 2 KD in the 1st, 1 to start the second?
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08-21-2016 , 02:07 AM
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I can't see any real way to give Diaz the second round. He got knocked down twice, and was outboxed for the first 3 minutes at least, and then did really well the last minute. But the gap to overcome 'knocked down twice' is huge, and flurrying for 30 seconds at the end doesn't do it for me.
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08-21-2016 , 02:27 AM
RT, fightmetric shows me two knockdowns in round 2, and only one knockdown in round 1.

http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-det...8396cc751c730d
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08-21-2016 , 02:48 AM
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RT, fightmetric shows me two knockdowns in round 2, and only one knockdown in round 1.

http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-det...8396cc751c730d
Odd, I could've sworn he floored him twice in the first. Can't picture the 2nd KD in the 2nd rd.

Kind of strange to see Diaz actually outlanding Conor 166-164, but that massive clinch different explains it.

Also, I wasn't following the thread during the fight so I have no idea if it was mentioned, but at what point does a fighter actually get warned for timidity? Several times each round Conor would turn his back from Nate and move entirely or nearly across the Octagon. I get that it's Conor and it's the ME, but in a fight where conditioning was a huge factor, allowing one fighter to do that so often seems wrong. No need to take a point, but at least a warning.
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08-21-2016 , 03:36 AM
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Odd, I could've sworn he floored him twice in the first. Can't picture the 2nd KD in the 2nd rd.

Kind of strange to see Diaz actually outlanding Conor 166-164, but that massive clinch different explains it.

Also, I wasn't following the thread during the fight so I have no idea if it was mentioned, but at what point does a fighter actually get warned for timidity? Several times each round Conor would turn his back from Nate and move entirely or nearly across the Octagon. I get that it's Conor and it's the ME, but in a fight where conditioning was a huge factor, allowing one fighter to do that so often seems wrong. No need to take a point, but at least a warning.
Nate was complaining about that, said Conor was running from him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oxRrD44NCA
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08-21-2016 , 04:59 AM
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man Nate is such a beast, great card last night

def want to see a rematch vs Aldo now
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08-21-2016 , 05:28 AM
don't think conor is ever going back to 145, especially after his performance tonight. he proved he belongs at 155. he can always fight for the title at 145 if things go poorly for him at lightweight. he will have to vacate though. had he lost to diaz, then fighting aldo is absolutely the play. such a big win for conors career. presumably he fights alvarez now.

he was actually probably too careful in rounds 1 and 2 looking back at it. I think he could have legit murdered nate a couple of times if he wanted to unleash on him. And i don't mean going for gnp when he knocked him down. he had him badly hurt. more hurt than he ever had him in the first fight. but he stuck with the gameplan and it payed off in the end. oh well
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08-21-2016 , 05:35 AM
Nate was robbed holy hell
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08-21-2016 , 05:43 AM
meh not at all actually
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08-21-2016 , 06:34 AM
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Nate was robbed holy hell
Lol no chance. I just went back and watched the whole fight with all the exchanges in slow motion.

Round 1:
McGregor should have gotten a 10-8 round in round 1. He knocked Diaz all around the ring and down, along with about 20 brutal leg kicks and Diaz did basically nothing, so if any round should have been a 10-8 round it was that one.

Round 2:
McGregor dominated round 2 for 3 1/2 of the 5 mins, Diaz didn't start any real offense until 90 sec left in the round, and McGregor knocked him down twice. He had a good flurry at the end but didn't knock Mcgregor down or even really wobble him. You can't give someone who only did damage for 90 sec of a 5 min round with no knock downs the round over the other guy who controlled for 3 1/2 minutes with 2 knock downs. So Mcgregor def won round 2.

Round 3:
Diaz obviously won this round but def not a 10-8 round for Diaz. Both exchanged damage and there were no takedowns or knockdowns for Diaz.

Round 4:
McGregor did significantly more damage than Diaz this round, more leg kicks, and Diaz faded pretty hard after taking a brutal body kick at about 3 1/2 to go and ate a lot of shots after that, as well as failing to get a few takedowns. They traded shots on the cage from about 2 1/2 mins down, with both being in control at one point. They were both rocked and almost fell inside the 2 min mark almost one after the other. So round was dead even from 3 1/2 min to the finish and nothing to take away from McGregor definitively taking the round for the first 90 seconds.

Round 5: Razor thin round, could have been scored as a tie, but for sake of argument I'll give it to Diaz.

That leaves at a minimum 48-47 McGregor, which almost every media outlet agrees with, along with 2 judges. Could have easily been 48-46 McGregor if he got the 10-8 in round 1 he deserved. No way Diaz got a 10-8 round in round 3 which still would only have given him a tie.

Go back and watch again and ignore Joe Rogan commentary hyping up things that weren't really happening and you'll see it.
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08-21-2016 , 06:35 AM
Watched the replay. Had CM 3-2 but could see Diaz 3-2 as well though it's sort of a stretch imo.

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08-21-2016 , 07:23 AM
Suffice it to say it was pretty damn close however you swing it. Round 4 was the turning point for me, Connor looked done at the end of R3 but Nate came out and did nothing in round 4. It looked like he was constantly trying to wipe blood from his eyes which must've been a distraction, resulting in neither doing much but Connor edging it, also allowing Connor to get some energy back in the tank to take R5. Interesting and awesome fight.

I agree with a couple of points above, Nate's boxing was not good at all, and Connor's coach saying he was winning in the clinch was nonsense.
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08-21-2016 , 08:26 AM
Tbh Mc needs a coach/manager that's going to tell him straight (not you're winning the ****ing clinch) and that won't let him fight gimmick fights ever again. Should have never been in the cage at that weight, never mind doing it twice against a trunk of a tree.

Mc running......I thought what a dick but ref can do nothing about it (was only for seconds at a time, if he'd been running for whole rounds that's a different matter).

Majority of Diaz combos were pitter patter nonsense fs. Totally unimpressed with his boxing but what a hard ****ing head he has.

I should mention the best training camp ever that cost 100k (he should stay quiet about that **** also considering what the likes of Cerrone is getting, bit crass). Basically left him in exact same position as last time after 8/9 mins of punching Nate.....sucking for air all gassed out. I'm sure they'd say something something gameplan leg kicks.. .......I could have told them that for free lol.

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08-21-2016 , 08:27 AM
Nate's boxing was hyped far too much. Yeah he's sparred with Andre Ward so what. He's basically only got a one two in his arsenal. He throws a counter lead hook as well but it's more a slap which only really knocks guys off balance so they can't unload any combos.
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08-21-2016 , 08:41 AM
So is it safe to say Connor gives up the featherweight title, fights Diaz at 155 then assuming he wins takes on any one of Alvarez/Dos Anjos/Nurmagomedov?
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08-21-2016 , 08:49 AM
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Nate was complaining about that, said Conor was running from him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oxRrD44NCA
I hurt my knee....I hurt my rib....Switched off.

I'd love someone to count the amount of time Conor ran for (he did, can't deny it) V the amount of time Diaz backed away from his punches/kicks (same thing but doesnt look as bad). Won't be much in it.
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08-21-2016 , 08:57 AM
McGOAT should now move up to LHW and lay the smackdown on Cormier's candy ass
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08-21-2016 , 09:59 AM
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Nate's boxing was hyped far too much. Yeah he's sparred with Andre Ward so what. He's basically only got a one two in his arsenal. He throws a counter lead hook as well but it's more a slap which only really knocks guys off balance so they can't unload any combos.
Well that is certainly a hipster-ish opinion...

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So is it safe to say Connor gives up the featherweight title, fights Diaz at 155 then assuming he wins takes on any one of Alvarez/Dos Anjos/Nurmagomedov?
Don't see anything but Conor killing himself to make 145 again, beating Aldo and then vacating. He won't vacate his belt outright.

Of course, it's the same guy that said "The king is back" after eeking out a MD against a guy that tapped him in 8 minutes, so who knows.
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08-21-2016 , 10:15 AM
Simple fight stats:
Strikes:
Nate- 271 of 446 (60%)
Conor- 190 of 313 (60%)

Sig Strikes:
Nate- 178 of 353 (50%)
Conor- 161 of 282 (57%)

3 KD to none for Conor, 1 TD to none for Nate.

These guys could probably fight 3 more times before the public gets bored of it. Get some Manny v. JMM **** going.
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08-21-2016 , 10:21 AM
If Diaz was able to do more in r4 when he had cm against the cage no question he would've won.

I was very impressed with cm's tdd and how well he defended himself while he was against the cage. He took a lot of clean shots in r3 but was able to blunt or dodge most of nate's offense otherwise.

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08-21-2016 , 10:23 AM
Majority of Nate's significant strikes were all tippy tappy slaps. Conor rocked him numerous times with single shots and combos.

RT, I can't believe you think it was obvious from watching that Nate had injury probs, I mean not one person mentioned it until Nate told us all.
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