In terms of preference for me

1. Conor/Aldo

(gap)

2. Conor/Alvarez for belt
3. Conor/Nate at 155.

all three are must-watch though

Conor should want a fight with Aldo. It's a dream matchup for him. I think he wins convincingly again and that's what he needs right now.

I think it's pretty much zero chance he fights Nate next. They'll fight eventually though. It's pretty much gotta be Aldo or Alvarez right?

I wouldn't say zero chance but he'll have to vacate the 145 belt to fight him again.

He said he wanna fight Nate at 155 so I have a solid idea for Dana.

Just strip Alvarez of the belt and make Conor vs Diaz III for the 155 title. That is sure to put up big numbers.Good business decision right?

Conor beats Alvarez

Nate beats RDA

Cruz beats aldo

Conor fights Nate and Cruz back to back and holds both belts

FACT

Watching again....round 1. about 1.5 mins in Conor rocks him with a left....10 secs later puts him down. 3 mins in Nate is about to open up, Conor thumps him with the left again and Nate covers up/moves away. Just before the end Nate feels the power again. Mashed his leg up in first 2 mins.

2. The first left that connects puts him down (Nate backing up the whole time). Couple of jabs, 2 lefts and he's on his arse again. Has Nate chasing the shadows of his feints.

I think that's ample evidence Conor carried his power with him.

While Conor looked like a dick by walking away I have to say it must have helped making Nate chase him around on that leg. Though he couldn't have gave Diaz any more encouragement.

Rounds 1 2 4 for Conor, none particularly close.

Nate round 3 clearly.

Round 5 Nate controls it at the cage for 3.5 mins (didn't do much) and 1 takedown, Conor controls min or so on the outside but stuffs 3 takedowns and gets one for himself. I'd like to see strike stats for this round if anyone has them please.

Conor didn't offer any defence to head strikes in close, hands way down low. Needs fixed.

Nate made 2 million in 6 months, what a boss.

Marty,

Nate was getting ready to pummel him on the ground and choke him out at the end of round 5...In death matches Nate owns all his belongings again.

Nate made A LOT more than that

correct

I think Marty is right about his power tho

This is where we disagree. When Conor hit Aldo with a perfect counter power shot, Aldo went night-night. When Conor hit Nate with the shot, he knocked him down, but Nate was still aware and not stunned.

If Conor had slept Nate, then I'd agree with you, but he didn't, and Nate's elite chin aside, if he doesn't sleep Khabib, or Frankie, or any other top level ground guy, Conor is losing that fight.

RT how big of a MMA fan are you? I'm not being rude I just really don't know.

Do you really understand the quality of Nate's chin?

If people couldn't put Cabbage away at HW, would that mean they didn't retain their power too?

probably closer to 20 but who's counting

Total strikes:

Nate: 49 of 77
Conor: 34 of 47

Sig. Strikes:
Nate: 19 of 44
Conor: 24 of 37

Takedowns:
Nate: 1 of 4
Conor: 0 of 1

Not sure how to qualify it really. I'm a pretty big combat sports fan and an amateur boxer myself. I watch most major/mid level boxing matches and every UFC PPV/most FNs. I'd get beat up in an MMA trivia contest against plenty ITT tho.

My guess is that Nate's chin, as defined by the ability to mitigate the effects of punches and also to withstand damage, is probably top 5 in MMA. Don't know if that's what you're looking for or not.

Conor's power is absurd, even at '55. If you think otherwise you're just being silly.

I know u know ur **** re: fighting, I think you know that's not what I'm saying

His chin is #1 at 170/155 as far as I can think. Robbie had been slept by Nick back in the day as well as what we just saw against Woodley obv. Manhoef had him dead to rights too.

Okay there's a comp, did Manhoef not have his power because he couldn't put Robbie away? The same guy that KO'd Hunt?

RT Diaz got knocked about the ring with singles shots from the little guy, didn't take a barrage of digs but one left at a time. That's power wether he gets KO'd or not.

Comparing Aldo chin with Diaz is unfounded and you're not taking into account the extra 30lb he was hitting.

You're faulting Mc for not putting Nate to sleep, but that was almost impossible with single shots or 1-2.

Conor shouldn't look to 55, should look to drop 5lbs of mass & make 145 a easier cut & stay there. 155 is the nastiest division in the ufc, alvarez is a legit 180lber, dos anjos can get up to 200lbs, barboza is an animal, cowboy a beast, el curry & khabib are future champs. 145lbs have alot of up & commers as well, he should make it his home & let it be.


I think Mcgregor has his eyes set on a bout with floyd mayweather though from the post fight presser, he seems to hate the idea of fighting aldo & vs mayweather he makes 50+mill easy, i think tis what's next.

I don't think anyone ITT thinks Conor's #1 weapon isn't his power. I've said so at least twice today.

Everyone and every fight is different, and I was responding to a specific comparison with another, but my point was/is that as smaller fighters go up in weight, they lose power relative to their opponents.

I honestly didn't think that would be controversial. Manny Pacquiao scored fewer KOs and more decision wins as he moved up in weight. He's still an elite fighter, he just lost the insane power edge he had at lower weights. I can't think of a ton of examples as obvious from MMA at present, and with 4 oz. gloves, it's possible that it's less of a decline, but the idea that power lessens (as a relative measure) when moving up isn't new.

We'd had this talk before, but please god let this happen. Floyd will so thoroughly embarrass Conor he may just die of shame.



How ****ed up is MMA, it's got me repeatedly defending and rooting for noted scumbag Floyd Mayweather. Ugh.

Nate was not the right test for Conor's power at 55 or 70 depending on what you call their fight since both of them get dwarfed by a real ww in the cage last night.

I think anyone agrees he knocks out loads of lws and wws, but Nate is outlandish and no indication. The thing is, just because Nate is arguably the best and I think anyone agrees top 5 chins, does not mean the top 10 or more couldn't take his left. we don't know yet.

Eta: using Nate not being knocked out to gauge the opponents power is as useless as using how much his face is swollen and bloody at the end of the fight.

Forgive me if its been mentioned and I bet it has, but Anthony Johnson seemed to keep his power okay. Maybe it's an exception but maybe Conor is too?

Very well could. He's a "true" LW who kills himself to get to FtW, so it's possible that he carries the same power he has at FtW, up to LW. Seeing him put down true WWs seems like a stretch, but who knows.

Nate was dropped on his head like 5 times in the Rory fight and didn't get knocked out. RT is just grasping at this point

Is this true though??? conor is about 170lbs at his normal walk around weight, it's pretty similar for the top 145lbers as well, they weigh between 165-170lbs pretty much all of them. Conor i think is a medium size 55lber, everybody in the top 5 is 5-15lbs bigger than him.


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Sage is 6'1 183lbs & lean as fuark n cuts to 55, conor real divison is 145lbs & not 55.