conor isn't a true 145 just cause sage isn't human. He has the toughest cut in that division by far

Topical guys who's power travels up: Anthony Johnson, Poirier, Cerrone, Lineker, Dodson, Robert Whittaker

Obv Spider retained it back in the day too

What you're saying isn't new, you're right. I'm not arguing against the general idea.

But it's a Peter principle: you climb until your power doesn't show. You're trying to fit CM into that category with specious data. There's plenty of other examples of guys that do, Conor being in that group is more likely than not imo.

This is a reason Connor fighting at 170 is lame, we still don't know how he will look at 155. We should have 2 fights to judge what he kept and lost after moving up one class.

The Aldo fight happened, it's real. He KO'd 1 of the P4P goats in 14 seconds and he is the biggest "name" star in the sport right now. Doing huge PPV buys that beat anything anyone has done in boxing or UFC besides Floyd (and briefly Lesnar) He is the champ at that weight class and he just beat a very good fighter that was like 15 pounds bigger than him.

Adrien Broner is like a fringe top 10 WW in boxing now.

Even if he gets exposed at LW against the top guys, he still isn't Adrien Broner. People are interested in his fights in the real world, not just on twitter or whatever.

2 questions:

After what happened last fight, why didn't Nate try to take McG to the ground more, other than when he had him up against the cage?

And

Wtf is Queer Street?

Nate doesn't like to take fights to the ground because he says the path of least resistance in general is through boxing. This could be because most fighters are better wrestlers than he is but he and his brother also rail against stalling/running/lay and pray/fence work as cheap tactics for pussies who are scared to engage. It's partly pride that he doesn't utilize that part of the game more.

He seemed more upset with himself for the tying up on the cage he did do than the fact that he didn't capitalize on it more even though it worked.

I think Nate always overvalues his boxing. It is very good but his power is lacking and it doesn't allow him to finish fights frequently enough even though he is often gaining momentum as they finish. His bjj is a better tool from my pov and he could win with t if he worked on offensive wrestling more. I've said it before but if there were unlimited rounds the Diaz brothers would probably both hold belts.

Getting put on Queer Street is an old school boxing term for getting knocked silly.

Unlimited rounds would mean the Diaz bros would have even more head trauma then they probably already have. Again I will say it but Nate's boxing is over hyped. He's long and able to throw a decent one two. His bjj is excellent however and a joy to watch as he's so aggressive on the mat.

Sorry to burst your bubble but if CM do not KO Aldo in the first 2 round, its gg for CM.
And after seeing the fight aldo/frankie no way CM KO aldo this time.

CM simply got no cardio while Aldo was able to hold up against one of the best cardio in the game with Edgar at 145.
CM is a 3round fighter not 5, yet.



totally right.


Btw some people here are delusional...

Diaz is a good fighter but is far from being one of the elite ...
RDA crush him easy and even tho he beat Cowboy cerone, it was in 2011, since that time cowboy only lost 3 times in 5 years agaisnt 2 former champions, Petis and RDA.

I mean yeah, i did pick CM against Diaz in the first fight because i felt Diaz was a good but not great fighter .
But i would never take CM against the top of the 155 division ( RDA,Khabib,cerone,pettis,etc) .

I am happy for CM but his hype is too strong because he did not win big fights yet beside the Aldo fight which imo was a fluke.

Aldo/CM is a must to have any legitimacy of a possible title fight between alvarez ( or any futur 155 champion) and CM.

Trust me , CM knows this so this is why he does not want to face Aldo yet .
Pretty obvious.

ps: and Diaz caught some hype too , no wonder he said couple times now he will just sit tight and wait for the 3rd fight against CM.
Unless someone offer him huge money or a title fight or number 1 contender fight in the 155 division, which imo do not deserve yet but might have only because of CM win previously...

I mean look at Diaz resume... only ok win is agaisnt michael johnson and than you have to go back at 2012 for his jim miller win !
That is not a great resume for a title shot or any thing like that.

Yeah we trust you, ok mysticmontreal (you know how Mc v Aldo would have went after 2 rounds and you must be able to read minds as not one person itt said Conor>>>>>top of 155 division)

Everyone else delusional.

That's the point, no one survives the 1st round onslaught at his size.

This was probably strategic. Lots of strong strikers in the UFC will keep their hands relatively low compared to the 'optimal' position. It's because they don't want to be taken down. Conor was often being clinched and had Nate trying to take him down, and given how Diaz/McGregor 1 ended, he was right to be concerned about that. Keeping the hands low sacrifices a bit of striking defense for a lower chance of being taken down.

The same thing as getting the Bambi Legs

It refers to being hit hard enough and in such a way that you're on unsteady legs and are disoriented.

Nate diaz is definitely a elite 155lber, you're crazy if you say otherwise. First off, RDA is a beast!! secondly nate didn't make weight by like 5lbs n was visibly out of shape, you have to take that fight with a grain of salt.

You have to take every fight with a grain of salt these days it seems

Well you do. Each fight is a different matchup against a different opponent at that point in time. It's kind of silly to compare wins and especially the "he beat x and x beat y" but there are only so many fights these guys can do so we don't have much choice.

This is why I want conor to fight Alvarez first (or any other 55er but we know he will get the title shot) before aldo. It isn't fair to the 45 division but 4 fights and only 2 opponents is really annoying for one of the most hyped and talked about fighters today. He has 1 loss in the ufc at 170 and has been super active but it takes years to win over people who prefer journeymen.

Nate said he didn't want to expel too much energy when Conor started resisting. Since he's such a scrapper he was okay boxing it out.

What happens in Mac VS Mayweather? Conor will embarass himself no?

Of course even the best boxers get embarassed against PBF but can you imagine what Conor would be like if he landed a lucky punch and broke Mayweather's perfect record?

Good amateur boxers would most likely beat Conor ffs.

For an mma match Floyd hasn't a hope in hell.

Doesn't matter, the build up would be epic & both conor n mayweather gets 100+mill. It's a win-win situation for conor, he builds his name/brand bigger & makes a ****load of money in the process against a guy he isn't expected to or will beat.

And every single sucker who buys that pay per view will hate themselves after Floyd dances around Conor for 12 rounds.

I wouldn't pay to see Mayweather/McGregor, that fight would be a joke. I don't think Connor could be any top 25 pro boxer.

I don't know how they can build up that type of fight if it was straight boxing.

This is the new Anderson v RJJ

I'm something of a minor RJJ fan and RJJ v. Spider would actually be a decent fight if we're going prime v prime and it's only like 3 rounds long. Obv RJJ wins, but the show, my god the show.

Don't know if that limb you went out on can support your weight...