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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

03-08-2020 , 07:54 AM
I dont think it Will be possible. What will you do with players who start to show symptoms? You Will have to remove them from The tournament. So you get to Day 3 with a Nice stack, get a fever and boom you are out. I would not compete with those odds
03-08-2020 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by M@tacow
I dont think it Will be possible. What will you do with players who start to show symptoms? You Will have to remove them from The tournament. So you get to Day 3 with a Nice stack, get a fever and boom you are out. I would not compete with those odds
That's actually a good point.

Let's say you come down with symptoms in the middle of an event, and you make Day 3 with a nice stack but feel a fever and other corona-like symptoms.

Are you going to tell anyone? Probably not. You'll probably just play through it and rationalize that it's just the flu, and you don't want to lose your stack out of corona panic.

Then you'll infect everyone and we will all die. The end.
03-08-2020 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by M@tacow
I dont think it Will be possible. What will you do with players who start to show symptoms? You Will have to remove them from The tournament. So you get to Day 3 with a Nice stack, get a fever and boom you are out. I would not compete with those odds
and angle-shooting by pretending to be I'll:

Think you're gonna lose a big pot; just sneeze on it and watch everybody fold...

Juk
03-08-2020 , 08:46 AM
A guy at my table clearly looked like he had a fever. Cash game. What do you guys recommend in this situation (other than leaving)? Should I have said something to him or the staff? Does it matter? He wasn't coughing, sneezing, or touching his face.
03-08-2020 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Italy just closed down half the ****ing country and lot of you guys still think the WSOP is going to happen

Is Italy a preview for how it will go in the U.S.?
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The number of cases confirmed in the country now stands at 5,883, with close to half that number — 2,651 — hospitalized.
from https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...liveBlogHeader
03-08-2020 , 09:27 AM
Washington has been severely hit with this compared to most states, but it's mindboggling that no casinos have been shut down yet; this goes for both tribal and non-tribal!!!

Whereas Oregon is way better off than Washington and it has shut down several of their casinos!!!
03-08-2020 , 09:53 AM
On Monday, the UK is considering a measure that would ban those 70 years old and older from attending public events. Perhaps this is a step the powers at the WSOP will take.
03-08-2020 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
On Monday, the UK is considering a measure that would ban those 70 years old and older from attending public events. Perhaps this is a step the powers at the WSOP will take.
This was exactly what I suggested several days ago:

"Ban everyone over 70 and send them to the Orleans to play in their own WSOP supported event called "the Golden Seniors WSOP Championships".

FYI, life expectancy in the US is 78 years old."


The Orleans caters to this crowd, exactly. This is the area of their core competence. This is their niche.
03-08-2020 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
On Monday, the UK is considering a measure that would ban those 70 years old and older from attending public events. Perhaps this is a step the powers at the WSOP will take.
That would not play well in the US. Not likely.
03-08-2020 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
That would not play well in the US. Not likely.
Perhaps, but if this thing develops even remotely close to that 31 tweet tweet, then "would not play well in the U.S." goes out the door.
03-08-2020 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Gigabyte
A guy at my table clearly looked like he had a fever. Cash game. What do you guys recommend in this situation (other than leaving)? Should I have said something to him or the staff? Does it matter? He wasn't coughing, sneezing, or touching his face.
Maybe for WSOP they can have a set up where as you stand in line to register for a tournament, someone with Infrared Thermometer goes thru and checks people for a fever like they are doing at Airports.

If you have a fever of a determined amount then you go to the medical kiosk/tent where you get a free exam from doctor. If he determines you have CV symptoms then you go to quarantine, if not he can determine whether you can go play or must leave the premises.

Each new day you are coming back to day 2, etc or a new tournament the same fever scan/process must happen.

If you go to Quarantine tho, they have computers set up so you can grind WSOP online events and cash games!

Either that or they can cancel like everyone else.

Last edited by parisron; 03-08-2020 at 11:15 AM.
03-08-2020 , 11:14 AM
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FAUCI SAYS SCOPE OF CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK IN UNITED STATES 'NOT ENCOURAGING' BECAUSE OF SPREAD WITHIN COMMUNITIES

NIAID HEAD ANTHONY FAUCI SAYS U.S. NEEDS TO LOOK AT CANCELLING EVENTS WITH LARGE GATHERINGS OF PEOPLE IF COMMUNITY SPREAD OF CORONAVIRUS INCREASES.

Link
03-08-2020 , 11:20 AM
There won't be a WSOP this year. Get used to it.
03-08-2020 , 11:25 AM
I'm not sure I understand the hysteria surrounding the whole issue of making travel plans which may be in limbo. You can cancel a hotel reservation up to a few days ahead, usually for no charge (at least in Vegas). And you can cancel a plane ticket for either no charge (depending on the ticket, obviously) or a few hundred dollars, right up to flight time. It doesn't seem like an onerous risk for players to take to make their plans like usual and then play it by ear depending on circumstances closer to the event.

A curious test case will be EDC coming up in mid-May. I don't have specific numbers in front of me, but I would venture to guess that the concentration of people attending this event is an order of magnitude (probably 10-20x... perhaps more) the number of people attending the summer WSOP. And its a few weeks closer to the mass hysteria. So, if EDC is not cancelled, I would put the likelihood of WSOP being cancelled at near 0. If EDC is cancelled, then its probably closer to 50/50 for the WSOP.
03-08-2020 , 11:34 AM
the biggest problems with this virus that make this so problematic are:

1) the contagion rate is 4.5:1 -- someone with the virus is on avg going to infect 4.5 people while they are sick. Unlike the flu, where this is 1.25:1. This is a multiplicative effect.

2) while 20% infected get really sick, 80% see mild to no symptoms, which makes this real easy to spread.

3) people who have been infected by this virus do not gain immunity once they recover -- they can be reinfected by the exact same strain.
03-08-2020 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I'm not sure I understand the hysteria surrounding the whole issue of making travel plans which may be in limbo. You can cancel a hotel reservation up to a few days ahead, usually for no charge (at least in Vegas). And you can cancel a plane ticket for either no charge (depending on the ticket, obviously) or a few hundred dollars, right up to flight time. It doesn't seem like an onerous risk for players to take to make their plans like usual and then play it by ear depending on circumstances closer to the event.

A curious test case will be EDC coming up in mid-May. I don't have specific numbers in front of me, but I would venture to guess that the concentration of people attending this event is an order of magnitude (probably 10-20x... perhaps more) the number of people attending the summer WSOP. And its a few weeks closer to the mass hysteria. So, if EDC is not cancelled, I would put the likelihood of WSOP being cancelled at near 0. If EDC is cancelled, then its probably closer to 50/50 for the WSOP.
The EDC has participants with an average age of under 25. Even if you injected all of them with CoronaVirus, none of them will experience more than a slight cough. For this reason EDC shouldn't be canceled BUT the participants should all be quarantined away from their grandparents for 6 months.
03-08-2020 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Zurich_1
There WILL be an online heavy WSOP this year. Get used to it.
Been predicting it since post number 1 of this thread.
03-08-2020 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
The EDC has participants with an average age of under 25. Even if you injected all of them with CoronaVirus, none of them will experience more than a slight cough. For this reason EDC shouldn't be canceled BUT the participants should all be quarantined away from their grandparents for 6 months.
I see that 2+2 no longer has a rule against trolling.
03-08-2020 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I'm not sure I understand the hysteria surrounding the whole issue of making travel plans which may be in limbo. You can cancel a hotel reservation up to a few days ahead, usually for no charge (at least in Vegas). And you can cancel a plane ticket for either no charge (depending on the ticket, obviously) or a few hundred dollars, right up to flight time. It doesn't seem like an onerous risk for players to take to make their plans like usual and then play it by ear depending on circumstances closer to the event.

A curious test case will be EDC coming up in mid-May. I don't have specific numbers in front of me, but I would venture to guess that the concentration of people attending this event is an order of magnitude (probably 10-20x... perhaps more) the number of people attending the summer WSOP. And its a few weeks closer to the mass hysteria. So, if EDC is not cancelled, I would put the likelihood of WSOP being cancelled at near 0. If EDC is cancelled, then its probably closer to 50/50 for the WSOP.
salient points, especially the one about EDC. I put the odds of WSOP cancellation/postponement for 5 mos or more at 50/50 right now.

As for travel planning, I just cancelled a planned trip, including air, hotel ground transport. It was a pain to contact all vendors, but all offered to waive penalties, and either a credit toward future travel or a refund.

I've been traveling this past two weeks in Central America, did not see screening re flights although one country did have a team in full medical gear at immigration ...

I am fine, have never been to China, South Korea or Italy, but still expect to get screened when I get back to the US. When SARs was a thing years ago, I got screened at immigration in at least 2 countries.
03-08-2020 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Zurich_1
There won't be a WSOP this year. Get used to it.
Even if there is a WSOP, most casual players will choose not to attend out of caution, so there will be limited opportunities for professional players who need to make a living.
03-08-2020 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Crane
I see that 2+2 no longer has a rule against trolling.
For the record, I'm not trolling.

The Vegas economy would take too much of a hit if EDC is canceled. Close to 100% of the participants won't suffer more than a few dry coughs. But they could easily transmit to their 70 year old grandparents. Hence, the quarantine away from grandparents for 6 months.

And great grandparents too.
03-08-2020 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
Been predicting it since post number 1 of this thread.
Heavy WSOP online ????

... and, how do you think that will be accomplished for prospective participants outside of Nevada/NJ

It would be "illegal" under current laws.
03-08-2020 , 11:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parisron
Maybe for WSOP they can have a set up where as you stand in line to register for a tournament, someone with Infrared Thermometer goes thru and checks people for a fever like they are doing at Airports.

If you have a fever of a determined amount then you go to the medical kiosk/tent where you get a free exam from doctor. If he determines you have CV symptoms then you go to quarantine, if not he can determine whether you can go play or must leave the premises.

Each new day you are coming back to day 2, etc or a new tournament the same fever scan/process must happen.

If you go to Quarantine tho, they have computers set up so you can grind WSOP online events and cash games!

Either that or they can cancel like everyone else.
But like I stated that would be massiv negative freroll to loose your seat if you get symptoms. WSOP2020 is logistically impossible
03-08-2020 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
The EDC has participants with an average age of under 25. Even if you injected all of them with CoronaVirus, none of them will experience more than a slight cough. For this reason EDC shouldn't be canceled BUT the participants should all be quarantined away from their grandparents for 6 months.
That might be a common sense approach, but common sense has little to do with anything involving COVID-19. It is a serious issue, made significantly, and likely tragically, much worse because of the media and social age we live in.

That being said, we do not know what the effect of ecstasy and other hallucinogenic narcotics have on the spread and virulence of COVID-19, so I would be a bit surprised if people just assume the age-range of participants is a sufficient reason to not worry.
03-08-2020 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Heavy WSOP online ????

... and, how do you think that will be accomplished for prospective participants outside of Nevada/NJ

It would be "illegal" under current laws.
Gold bracelet miners and prospectors from all over will find a way to go to the promised lands of Delaware, Nevada, and New Jersey in order to achieve their dreams of poker glory.

      
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