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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

03-05-2020 , 05:55 PM
they'll never cancel or delay it, matusow is right
03-05-2020 , 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Registered 2018
The last great epidemic was called SARS. It took 8 months to get it contained.

Now we have the Coronavirus which is just starting to spread and seems to be much deadlier than SARS. The WSOP is only 4 months away and the Triton Poker series just got postponed because of the coronavirus.

What are the possibilities that the WSOP 2020 would have to be postponed too?

Could this be the first WSOP that will be played strictly online? What would be the legal mechanics to make this doable even for non-Nevada residents? I think the WSOP organizers should be acting early with regards to this possibility.
As usual so much misinformation. That freaking virus is roughly 10-20 times less (!!!!!) deadly then Sars. Prob way more. If u think that 90000 people in China infected is the real number ure prob also believing in Santa. The infected number is prob much higher, caus they don't and can't test anyone. Also 80% of people literally have a very mild cold or no symptoms. So the Mortality rate is, as many many experts say, prob 0.5-1% on average. While in the 20-50 age range it is even lower more like 0.2%. Sars had roughly 10% mortality rate. A much more deadly but less infectus virus!!

So overall that thing is most likely a bit more deadly then the normal influence flu, which has roughly 0.1% mortality.

Every freaking year there are millions and millions of people affected with the flue, thousands day. But yet there is no media outrage.

That virus needs to be contained, with proper measure but the freaking panicking is so annoying. This is a poker forum with a whole bunch of statistics and probabilities information threads etc.

But yet in this case all the math and statistics is ignored. This thing will not be extinct and till there is a vaccine a lot of people will get it and will not die.

At the moment u dying from a car crash is much more likely then from that virus.

Put away your ladders and ure save
03-05-2020 , 06:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlo
Urine therapy:not dirty but certainly not conventional .

In any case the doctor is certainly not a fool .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine_therapy
I'd argue that a doctor who supports a therapy without any evidence for its effectiveness is indeed a fool. And a bad physician.
03-05-2020 , 06:25 PM
Pubs and restaurants in the UK are so quiet compared to usual.

This is without any enforced government closures like in Italy. Just people making their own choice.

How busy are the card rooms in the US right now?
03-05-2020 , 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AKyouwin

How busy are the card rooms in the US right now?
The cardrooms here in the USA are pretty busy. Seems like CoronaVirus is not the deadliest virus in the USA. DENIALvirus is the deadliest one. That's for sure.

Everyone is suffering from it from the Vice President down to the street bum.
03-05-2020 , 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Very interesting that nobody under 10 years old has died. Why is that?
The Apocalyptic Christians refer to it as The Rupture, but I don't agree with them that that is the case now.
03-05-2020 , 06:50 PM
Many fighters believe that drinking urine can make you a world champion...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqxHfaIA8IU

Peeing on your foot after you have stepped on a sea urchin will make the spikes come out of your foot.
03-05-2020 , 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicagodude
they'll never cancel or delay it, matusow is right
Give it a few weeks and once the olds start dying in the hundreds then the Mouth will be sharing his latest Alex Jones-esq conspiracy theory about this virus.
03-05-2020 , 07:26 PM
Depends on if similar events are being cancelled, then WSOP will be cancelled. imo
03-05-2020 , 07:27 PM
Less talk about urine and clouds, more talk about probability and gambling.

03-05-2020 , 07:29 PM
Yea, I just saw that, I know nothing about the site. Do they take bets from the US?
03-05-2020 , 07:33 PM
03-05-2020 , 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alberthofmann
As usual so much misinformation. That freaking virus is roughly 10-20 times less (!!!!!) deadly then Sars. Prob way more. If u think that 90000 people in China infected is the real number ure prob also believing in Santa. The infected number is prob much higher, caus they don't and can't test anyone. Also 80% of people literally have a very mild cold or no symptoms. So the Mortality rate is, as many many experts say, prob 0.5-1% on average. While in the 20-50 age range it is even lower more like 0.2%. Sars had roughly 10% mortality rate. A much more deadly but less infectus virus!!

So overall that thing is most likely a bit more deadly then the normal influence flu, which has roughly 0.1% mortality.

Every freaking year there are millions and millions of people affected with the flue, thousands day. But yet there is no media outrage.

That virus needs to be contained, with proper measure but the freaking panicking is so annoying. This is a poker forum with a whole bunch of statistics and probabilities information threads etc.

But yet in this case all the math and statistics is ignored. This thing will not be extinct and till there is a vaccine a lot of people will get it and will not die.

At the moment u dying from a car crash is much more likely then from that virus.

Put away your ladders and ure save
The salient point is that there is no vaccine yet against SARS-CoV-2. The mortality rate, as you point out, is likely 5 to 10x the average yearly mortality rate of the flu. Worldwide deaths for the flu run on the order of 500K per year. So the math is 2.5 to 5 million deaths from SARS-CoV-2, except that would be comparing an illness with widely distributed vaccine to an illness that has no available vaccine. The infection rate for SARS-CoV-2 could run as high as 80% of the worldwide population (=~5B+ people), as compared with the 10 to 40M that get the flu annually. This is why governments and health officials are panicking and implementing drastic measures to stamp out the spread of the virus. Without that, CoVID-19 could easily become the number one cause of death this year, planetwide.

Last edited by PokerXanadu; 03-05-2020 at 07:51 PM.
03-05-2020 , 07:51 PM
https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1235688983603994625?s=20



Very scary if this strategy is being replicated across the US.
03-05-2020 , 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
This seems very familiar. I forget what it's called though. That thing where people keep repeating stories over and over again and keep believing that it's true even though everything in the stories violate everything else in how they understand the world to operate. But because it's been imprinted on them since they were children it becomes a part of their identity so they defend it to the death. It'll come to me at some point.
I always refer to it as the Liberty Valance Effect. (From the line "this is the West, sir – when the legend becomes fact, print the legend.") Indeed, if you remember what it's actually called, please post it because that very phenomenon is a major pet peeve of mine.

The myth of urine's sterility continues to get thrown around in schools (at least, U.S. ones). Hell, I found out in the last few years that science teachers are still spreading the whole "tongue map" myth. You know it, it's that the hypothesis that certain taste receptors are located on specific regions of the tongue. Yet I remember learning that notion being debunked as far back as the 1980s.

Don't get me started on the reaction I continue to get when I swallow my chewing gum, either. There are grown adults with university degrees who still buy the seven-year-digestion thing.

Anyway, your sentence...

Quote:
it's been imprinted on them since they were children it becomes a part of their identity so they defend it to the death.
...is dead-on correct. And now I, too, want to go digging to learn what that tendency is called.
03-05-2020 , 08:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AKyouwin
https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1235688983603994625?s=20



Very scary if this strategy is being replicated across the US.
USA #1 Land of the free.
03-05-2020 , 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alberthofmann
As usual so much misinformation. That freaking virus is roughly 10-20 times less (!!!!!) deadly then Sars. Prob way more. If u think that 90000 people in China infected is the real number ure prob also believing in Santa. The infected number is prob much higher, caus they don't and can't test anyone. Also 80% of people literally have a very mild cold or no symptoms. So the Mortality rate is, as many many experts say, prob 0.5-1% on average. While in the 20-50 age range it is even lower more like 0.2%. Sars had roughly 10% mortality rate. A much more deadly but less infectus virus!!

So overall that thing is most likely a bit more deadly then the normal influence flu, which has roughly 0.1% mortality.

Every freaking year there are millions and millions of people affected with the flue, thousands day. But yet there is no media outrage.

That virus needs to be contained, with proper measure but the freaking panicking is so annoying. This is a poker forum with a whole bunch of statistics and probabilities information threads etc.

But yet in this case all the math and statistics is ignored. This thing will not be extinct and till there is a vaccine a lot of people will get it and will not die.

At the moment u dying from a car crash is much more likely then from that virus.

Put away your ladders and ure save
The problem is this guy cant work out that if you have a not very infectious disease that has very high fatality, and a very infectious disease that has a lower fatality, overall they are equally problematic.

What he doesn't get it how quickly this spreads. Two Chinese visitors with the virus visited Italy. From those two people 3,858 have ended up with it in Italy, of which 148 have died and 414 recovered. Yet our genius comes up with a mortality figure of 0.5 - 1%.
03-05-2020 , 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Registered 2018
The Apocalyptic Christians refer to it as The Rupture, but I don't agree with them that that is the case now.
The rapture
03-05-2020 , 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Why
The problem is this guy cant work out that if you have a not very infectious disease that has very high fatality, and a very infectious disease that has a lower fatality, overall they are equally problematic.

What he doesn't get it how quickly this spreads. Two Chinese visitors with the virus visited Italy. From those two people 3,858 have ended up with it in Italy, of which 148 have died and 414 recovered. Yet our genius comes up with a mortality figure of 0.5 - 1%.
Remember back like 4 wks ago when everyone was like, "So there's a couple people in China that are sick big deal. I'm over here in America."
03-05-2020 , 09:02 PM
wsop and casinos prolly wont decide/say **** till there are decent amount of cases in vegas/surrounding areas.

they want to lose the least amount of revenue.
03-05-2020 , 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justcalll
wsop and casinos prolly wont decide/say **** till there are decent amount of cases in vegas/surrounding areas.

they want to lose the least amount of revenue.
I would go as far as to say wsop, casino and/or hotels won't be the ones making a decision if it ever does end up getting cancelled, it would be too costly for them to shoot themselves in the foot and cancel when no matter what people will end up attending. The only way WSOP is cancelled I would guess is if government / local officials step in and say they are not allowed to host it due to the virus and large amounts of people coming in from around the world.
03-05-2020 , 10:09 PM
Line down to -400 Yes/+300 No now.

This line is just whether the Main event goes as scheduled.
03-05-2020 , 11:47 PM
People on Twitter are saying they are getting flights to Las Vegas for $97 to $130 now.

edit:
I just took a look and see a round trip flight in April from Tampa to LV for $114. lol

Last edited by parisron; 03-05-2020 at 11:55 PM.
03-06-2020 , 01:07 AM
King’s Casino Closed to Italian Residents Due to Coronavirus Concerns
March 5th, 2020 by Daniel Smyth
The new coronavirus (COVID-19) has claimed another victim, forcing King’s Casino Rozvadov to shut it’s doors to players from — or who have recently visited — Italy.
03-06-2020 , 01:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parisron
Line down to -400 Yes/+300 No now.

This line is just whether the Main event goes as scheduled.
The likelihood of to closing the board for good to live events has to be a given.

At this point there is no way they can run it.

But the Main will likely go even if its postponed. And the RIO is such a dead place year round that they logistically could consider postponing the whole event to the fall if things approve.

      
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