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NUMBER OF CONFIRMED COVID19 CASES IN THE USA BY END OF MARCH 2020 EST

ACCORDING TO WORLDOMETERS.INFO / MAX BET €500 PER USER
Odds to Win
A) Under 5000 +765
B) 5000-11999 +205
C) 12000-24999 +205
D) 25000+ +205

Right now its at 1010 on the site.

He is right in making the distinction that it doesn’t just live in the air to breathed hours later like measles. It requires the droplets from a cough or sneeze to land on the other person or a surface they touch or possibly by the droplets getting immediately breathed in. The CDC uses much different language emphasizing that measles can live in the air for hours and be caught by simply breathing that air later.

Also, per the World Health Organization’s Q&A on COVID-19:
If it just stayed in the air like measles, the 1 meter distance wouldn’t help much in that respect.

There is conflicting data on this.

This seems to indicate that there is a benefit

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/scie...tance-and-stay

I would say that the masks don't work information put out has just been to try and keep the supply for the absolute key workers, which is reasonable enough. Anyone working in the healthcare industry is going to be in for really traumatic couple of months so they need all the support they can get.

Some of the stories from Italy are horrifying. Imagine being a porter whose job it is to clear the bodies to the morque, or even someone who does the paperwork and whose job is to fill out death certificates. Gonna be a lot of people suffering from PTSD.

The "masks don't work" nonsense is entirely because many Western nations and especially the USA are critically short on masks and don't have enough for expected healthcare worker demand much less the general population. Any mask is better than nothing but it is true healthcare workers need priority. If we had an ample supply of masks we'd see universal encouragement from every expert to wear them.

Some recent posts from #coronavirus Twitter.

More Coronavirus/WSOP Cancellation Discussion & GPI Awards Recap - DAT Poker Podcast Episode #66

http://datpodcast.libsyn.com/more-co...ast-episode-66

Never heard of this but Daniel Negreanu is on from the start.

Yesterday I thought for sure the WSOP was not going to be canceled. Maybe pushed back 3 weeks but now I am leaning they will cancel.

JRE podcast said Americans will have their own set of problems the main being obesity. Luckily, that's not a problem in the poker community.

I think other big events in Vegas leading up to it will be the litmus test.
The thing to watch is if the age range shifts (first graph) and if 'healthy' people are dying. (second graph)

Seems very likely the live WSOP will be cancelled, but this far in advance they should be able to set up some sort of online, abbreviated series.

atleast you guys can be sure as hell that the value is gonna be really shitty given that now old ppl will participate unless deathwish

MGM Resorts closing buffets...
https://www.ktnv.com/news/mgm-resort...-vegas-buffets

Anybody looking for some quick cash, UK researchers are looking for volunteers to be intentionally infected with the virus to help find a vaccine. Volunteers must agree to be quarantined. They're paying $4,500.

Researchers in Seattle are also looking for volunteers but they're only paying 1,100 and you don't have to be quarantined. 1,100 ??? Come on, they should be able to do better than that, especially in Bill Gates' hometown. Somebody give him a call.

https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/03...-find-vaccine/

Thanks for sharing. Daniel believes that the current odds should be closer to 5:1 in favor of the WSOP not happening.

Also Daniel bowed out of attending this year's Global Poker Awards in Las Vegas a few hours before the event started. He says that for the first time he feels a form of "disconnect" with the new "poker industry" and that he's turned off by some of the scolding that is happening in poker media/industry circles.

In the final minutes of the show (from 58:00), Daniel & co. make fun of 2+2, Mason, David Sklansky, etc. This occurs on DAT Poker Podcast every few shows from my experience listening to it. The post(s) that Daniel is referring to at the end of Episode #66 can be found within the containment thread: here, here, and here.

The "6 months" post was not made by Mason but by Videopro. It can be found here.

External coverage of more history between Mason and Daniel can be found here and here.

You can view Mason's thoughts on the abusive FCP posts that Daniel never took down here and here.

All the relevant discussion has been placed in the containment thread. I'm just posting the links here in case someone listens to the last minute of Ep #66 and has questions as to why the hosts took swipes at Mason/David S. The Mason Malmuth/Daniel Negreanu rivalry dates back to the 1990s on the old rec-gambling-poker boards. All the relevant discussion is in the containment thread here.

The sad part is what that right chart implies. Aside from cancers that are sort of random and can happen regardless and certain respiratory diseases, everything is highly preventable. Heart and blood vessels and high blood pressure are highly related to getting fat. Diabetes? Fix your diet. Can't breath? Stop smoking for crying out loud, and stop driving gas/diesel cars.

Every time someone dies from this virus they aren't really dying from the virus but rather the population is too unhealthy to begin with. Are we really surprised a 400 pound behemoth is going to be felted when they can barely walk 2 flights of stairs? Is it that much of a stretch that someone smoking 2 packs per day is going to get what actually is written in huge letters on the package? I feel bad for the people that take care of their health and are unlucky by having cancer treatment or recently had a blow to their immune system, but people should take more responsibility. Rather than this being a scary virus people should wake up and make plans for the 99,9% of us that make this through. Stop eating crap, take a walk once in a while and leave the smokes alone. Your 200 extra pounds are not merely esthetic and does it kill you to eat a fruit?

recognizing a poker forum not the best source for medical info. but here we are......

That CDC link has me all confused.

I'm sitting here watching Squawk Box CNBC. They are interviewing Mark Levine-Chair NYC Committee on Health. Showing videos of city workers wiping down surfaces all over subway stations. "Mostly transmitted by touching contaminated surfaces and then touching face/mouth" said Mark. Governor of NY saying one thing and New York City Health Official saying another.

I'm surprised infectious disease scientific community cannot quickly determine how its transmitted, how long it lives on surfaces, etc etc. would seem like a pretty simple experiment to set up.

If surface contamination is a meaningful method of transmission, poker tournament is way more risky than normal social gathering. Made worse by players' financial incentive to stay even when they know they are sick. How many times have you been playing with a person sneezing /coughing etc "its just allergies" they say.... Also, Do scientists yet know if infected people have to be showing symptoms to be contagious?


Unrelated to above, but these quotes from AL Jazeera article re: situation in Germany were alarming.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/infected-16-berlin-nightclub-coronavirus-fears-grow-200310132859234.html
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Coronavirus room rates

Absolutely agree, **** grandmas also, it's their fault they got irresponsibly old and didn't stop ageing

Oh **** you. You know my point is valid.

I'm siding with Kelvis on this one. Just finished reading a transcript of an interview with an expert epidemiologist ... he said in China 60% of adult men smoke which obv is causing more deaths there ... in USA#9 we have an obesity epidemic which obv is/will cause more deaths here.

Imho, health insurance rates should factor in a person's smoking history and BMI.

another facet of this gem: there are ~8 billion people on this planet, we can afford to lose a few.

And again I want to make it clear; I am not for grandmas dying in the streets and for needless contamination. I merely think the response is overboard compared to what we could have been doing to general health all this time. If people cared about their health there are a million things they could be doing all the time but aren't, and now expect me to stay indoors. That is the part I disagree with. And yes, I do avoid general contact as much as I can without restricting me in ways I feel are unfair, I am not for some kind of mass extinction. Not playing poker, to me, is unfair.

I miss the good ol’ days of this thread where we just worried about giant ladders.

Life Insurance rates certainly do..

The response may or may not be overboard, but all of it, from how people feel/behave to how the governments act is based on fear not health. It has already been mentioned countless times how insignificant a "killer" COVID-19 is likely to end up being compared to the sorts of things that normally kill people. But human beings don't normally think about mortality due to "every-day" dangers or even general health each and every day. Its too theoretical compared to the moment-by-moment requirements of existence. And they don't have their television screens depicting scary graphics about their general heath every day. And they don't have news conferences, and public advisories, and economic chaos, and endless social media posts about their general health every day. So, while your point about general health is well taken, I don't really see how it applies to this situation.

When a new "stress-or" enters a person's life, they are more likely to suffer negative consequences the more generally unhealthy they are. That goes for a novel virus or getting your aces cracked by 2-7.

Lastly you use of the word "unfair" is misplaced IMO. "Unfortunate"... maybe so (at least compared to some things). But not at all unfair. You, nor anyone else, is entitled to the WSOP, or having a venue to play poker at in general.

Almost nobody young is dying, obese or not
And you carry and spread the virus even with mild symptoms (which is actually really bad combined with long incubation periods).

Old people mortality is very high on the other hand, and they can't do much about being old

A big reason why events over 100 got cancelled is to slow down the spread of it and spread it over longer time periods
Even if the number of people that have it will not be that much lower as it's impossible to stop, big jumps overload healthcare systems and can cause real tragedies

NBA coronavirus contingency plans: Relocations over empty stadiums

"The NBA is making desperate plans to avoid having to play games in empty stadiums because of coronavirus.

The leagues is discussing the possibility of relocating games to cities that aren’t facing a coronavirus crisis, according to ESPN.

The possibility of moving NBA games to the road team’s arena or neutral sites has been discussed, along with the last-resort scenarios of keeping fans out of games or even suspending play, per ESPN. But the report says the lack of public coronavirus testing in the United States is complicating the league’s plans because nobody has a grasp on the full scope of the virus’ footprint."

"Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal reports MLB is discussing potentially moving teams into other MLB stadiums when that host team is on the road. Regular-season games being played at spring training facilities is another consideration."

"The Associated Press reported Tuesday that Washington Gov. Jay Inslee is set to announce Wednesday he is banning gatherings of more than 250 people in the greater Seattle area, which would directly impact the Seattle Mariners, who are set to open the season at home on March 26. The Mariners are scheduled to play their first seven games at home. At least 24 people in Washington state have died from COVID-19.

The Seattle Sounders MLS team and the XFL’s Seattle Dragons would also be affected. The Sounders’ next scheduled home game is March 21, while the Dragons have scheduled home games on March 15 and 22.

Santa Clara County in California has already banned gatherings of more than 1,000 people, impacting the San Jose Sharks, San Jose Earthquakes and the women’s NCAA Tournament. The Ivy League cancelled it’s men’s and women’s postseason tournaments."

https://nypost.com/2020/03/11/nba-co...mpression=true