And he would just love to share all his hard earned knowledge with you and the rest of the world for peanuts.

Is it just me or has durrr been in the "1 seat" every single time he's been on PAD?

Maybe he likes to be close to Nelson.

Yeah obviously he thinks about the game unlike anyone else...however its pretty funny that he leveled all of us into thinking that he expects his "King High" to be good a large percentage of the time...really durrr reallY? lol

against Ziig, it probably is good there a large percentage of the time.

I agree that Howard's gotten really unlucky. Getting dealt Aces twice and losing one and chopping the other is really unlucky, esp since he played both well pre-flop (he 4bet both).

I wasn't excited to see Howard in the line-up, but I think these games need a couple tight players to balance the Super-Aggro's. And Howard's actually played a little better than I thought he would (chk-raised Tom off one hand) and called PA's all-in with Aces + K99 flop (when I play online, my Aces always lose to KK in that spot).

Too bad they don't have another Bob Safi, I loved watching Tom destroy that guy. Safi thought he was a Playa, but he got his donkey ass "durrred"!!!

how often do you get AA vs AA?
like 200k maybe? PA said he only had that the first time so he couldnt have played many hands.

Really? A c-bet by ivey and then a flat call by durrrr...zig knows both of them well...tom will never ever float vs ivey in that spot plus durrr doesnt like folding EVER!! I think Zig is great and all but he really is a pretty big whale at nlhe

Pretty entertaining week, Howard plays so bad imo

Does the cash game run for 1 more week?

Yarr one more week

Nope, he ridiculed HL saying how terrible the call was because eli bluffs there "near 0%." And he is wrong. That's all I'm saying, is that it's much higher than that. I didn't even say it wasn't a terrible call, the blanco's crude analysis is. For the record, I don't like the call at all. I don't like the way Howard played that hand on any street, generally.
At the risk of sounding genereal; Howard's c/ring has been minimal to zero. On a flop like that 3 handed I would expect Howard to fire with toppair+ much more than to c/r.

For what it's worth, I think attacks on Veil's poker knowledge are a little unfair. You really have to know something to be able to be so consistently wrong in your analysis of every single hand played on TV.

Calling PA a nit lmao..
Its like calling Federer an american.

Assuming the odds are 1 in 200,000 as you suggest, a player could still easily play 1,000,000 hands without it happening, or more.....just as another player might get the first hand he ever plays.

For the record I've played about 3 million hands (estimate) and it's happened about 10 times (estimate)

Also, Antonius almost always plays shorthanded, which would lower the odds.

[QUOTE=wtfbbqs;13006116]
patrik is by far the nittiest player at this table, he always is nitty, he just always hits and always gets paid, every single show ive seen him this is how its been, every big pot he wins he has the stone cold nuts, never makes many hero call downs and doesnt get much money in with even suited rags. if it works for him it works for him.QUOTE]

Antonius plays almost as many hands as Dwan. He is currently involved in the Durr challenge (thats more than enough to prove him not being a nit) and every big cash game on TV.

On HSP he called Laak's(who is a nit) preflop raise with 10-4. He then called his bet on the flop,37k bet on turn, and 80k bet on river to win a 280k pot with only BOTTOM PAIR.

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Howie Lederer just owned Ivey pf

I think Ziigmund not only had a pretty terrible run of cards in the ~100 hands we've seen him play at HSP and PAD, but he also barely ever connects to flops and had his bigger hands run out really bad like the KK on HSP against Durrrr (A comes), losing a big flip and getting a flushdraw allin against a higher flushdraw. I still think when Ziig finally starts actually connecting to flops or getting good textures to make plays on he will be perceived a lot better. Same thing with Phil Gandolf on HSP basically, where he got flamed over what was something like a ~50 hand sample size.

Also, Eli proved once again why he's the mark at the table. With all respect for his great personality, but the 88 call was so lolbad it wasn't even funny. Good thing that the fish might start coldcalling 3-bets now as well because, you know, Eli does it and you might flop a set!

should never be used.

wow it's up already

Lederer limps 75hh from UG+1
Ivey raises to 4k with K6hh from CO
Elezra calls with 95ss from BB
Lederer re-raises to 14k and both Ivey and Elezra fold.

ok i like debates, let's hear it why you think howard played those j's well on any street.

There must be something wrong with the graphics...blanco said howard is too uncreative to do something like this - God forbid my whimsical mind!!! Must have been one of those "close to 0%" moments...

seriously tho, good work howard - probably took the props into account

They really should avoid taping more than one week in a day. Everyone is freaking yawning at the table every second hand.

Can't believe Patrik folded AJ on the button to a single raise that hand.

veil rhymes with fail

what the hell are you talking about? howard limp3betting light himself is not the same as howard 4betting PA's limpreraise light (which you suggested there was a high chance of in the AA vs AA hand). i said howard wasn't creative enough to be doing that with any decent frequency at all and i still maintain that. they are on completely different levels

and also yes props probably were an influence since ivey who opened can definitely have something like two red cards that are raising because they don't want to see a flop, in which case he would happily fold to resistance. good recognition by him

i never said howard was bad at poker. he's outclassed by this lineup but he has some clue what he's doing. in fact i specifically defended his nearly folding the AA vs AA when others were laughing at him for it, and also attributed the bad JJ call he made to his frustration, not him being stupid

are you saying that lederer is now a "creative" player because he limpreraised in a good spot? obviously you don't believe that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. and it has nothing to do with the hand in question or his 4bet bluffing frequency (please show or tell me about a televised hand where howard has 4bet light, because i haven't seen one)