this is the second time in life i watch the directors cut.

first time was last time dwan played....
sick how easy he analyzes everything.

also he cleared up some of the plays that were dictated by the prop betting (like ziggy's AK pf shove. the best analysis was dwan talking about his k2 flush draw vs ziggy.

I think what he meant to say is that Dwan / Eli = high variance

Just watching the DC. Do you think Durrrr was giving away way too much info? I know he has like a Pokerstove in his brain, but the level of reasoning he was giving away is beyond most poker fans, even the ones who'd stay up to 3am to watch a cash game. Did he really need to say that much?

Then he checks the flop

that's not a lot really, I wanted to hear him on the smaller pot he lost to ivey's two pair...

Funny how you state this, then after you give reasons but it's completely non sequitor. Please state what is wrong with my claim that "IF eli is bluffing the turn - he would bluff the river." It doesn't have to be with complete air, maybe he does it with middle pair and turns it into a bluff. Afterall that flop being checked around is kinda suspect. If you say that eli is bluffing there 0% of the time, you are an extremely close minded and unimaginative player. Ironically, all the reasons you gave is what makes it a good spot to bluff. I suppose Ivey double floating there with 7high also happens "close to 0% of the time."
This is quite humourous considering I pretty much demolished your poor analysis on the AA vs AA hand and left you with no comeback. I also have played more hands than you, being playing longer, am older and have won much more than you. So maybe I detect jealously on your part, but mostly stubbornness - you can't admit to being wrong and you HATE seeing things if they're not general as ****; i.e "close to zero." That is pure crap.

well if guy was playing it would be worth it to stay awake. that guy gave away 100k presents every 30 min.

can someone link to the directors cut please ? much appreciated

very intelligent post there..

eli and howard have tilted the the most in that show. eli sucks so bad OMFG when he just called with 888 i waslike OMG and then when he explained why he did this i kinda thought why the f doesnt he realize its complete and utter bull**** hes saying


gawd

yea eli talking about the hand confirms how bad a player he is.

his thinking in the hand goes like:
-i have 88. if i hit a set i can win a lot more. *calls 1/10 of his stack with original raiser behind*
-i flopped a set. i call cuz if i raise he might fold his hand.

A couple comments I want to make:

1) Durrr has run extremely well in all his televised cash games. This guy goes through multi million swings online so even though he's an amazing player he doesn't win every hand and play perfect poker.

2) I think they should bump the stakes up. With them playing such high stakes props the poker doesn't seem to matter unless Ivey and Durrr get all in. I think they could go 500/1000 next episode.

3) Howard's laydown with 88 I don't think was great. Ivey certainly doesn't care about $120k enough to play scared, so I feel he could look down to 22-77 as well as some Ax hands and shove. Not sure what straddle position Howard was in though but I think he may have been the $1200 one. Also the decision isn't a huge one. The straddles made the hand like a 2500/5000 hand that calling there and being wrong for an imsakidd stack shouldn't be a big worry (in other words a big mistake, considering a hand like that doesn't come up very often and if folding is a mistake it certainly isn't a big one).

Eli says he hits sets about 1/4 of the time, so that was a good call.

Director's Cut:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/228251...57978#32757978

you're a joke

sigh...TV forum strat...

blanko is making sense...ur are throwing out what ifs.

What if he's bluffing the turn some % of the time with basically total air? What if he'd continue on a river that would be good to continue a bluff with total air on?

That's great, I'm sure blanko will concede that Eli can be bluffing here some % of the time. But, it still doesn't mean that it's any where near the 30% or so that it needs to be.

The fact that the flop checked through in no way reduces the strength of Howard's range when he leads the turn. He was out of position to the pfr, and could have easily planned a c/r with a set, 2pr, or a big combo draw.

Personally, on that board and with Eli in the hand, I'd lead JJ cause Eli's range is huge preflop and he calls any piece of any flop, and that's not a board that A) Patrik cbets a lot and B) that you really want to c/r on cause if you get shoved on, or even just called it kinda sucks on so many turns (c/c sucks for the same reason).

It's probably not high enough to make bet bet c\c a good line with Q high.

Re: Point #1:

Tom running not so good, in pot that make any on PAD thus far this week Pale in comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5d9HYjwgAo

lol i never really like ziigmund much but after this week i love him. if only he could actually profit occasionally.

also the axaa board was a rediculous hand which i loved

so whats on the plate for this week?

Is anyone else impressed well Dwan was able to express his thoughts during hands in words? Definitely has potential for a training site

Does week 2 start tonight?!?!?!?

redraws for seats and another 1 week.

And you're the expert right Sizz?

Yea 'cause I don't hate on a guy for playing tight.

Thinking Eli or Ziggy are better than Howard based on what's been seen on TV (HSP and PAD) is absurd.

And Howard is only losing because Eli got extremely lucky. Calling a 3bet in between the 3bettor and the original raiser, for 10% of your stack. Just a donk play that paid off.

Yeah it's so hard to beleive he built up from a $50 roll, since he plays so recklessly (and poorly from what I've seen) and just throws around money like he doesn't care (doing the prop bet with Ivey). Maybe he did some great investing also or something.