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04-21-2015 , 08:46 AM
Wow, apologizing really makes one feel better. No wonder Bruce was so profuse with his apologies.
04-21-2015 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
People talk about being immature but it's not mature to demand the unreasonable apologies that wookie clearly was.

We had a valued part/contributor to 2+2 who after 15+ reacted badly in a heated situation. The mature thing to do was to seek to cool things down, draw a line under it and move on with an agreement from him to demonstrate he had learned.
They're bullies! They don't deserve any apologies at all! Why are you pretending like it's the "reasonableness" of the apology that's relevant. This entire conversation just shows that you're buying into their BS. Bullies don't deserve any apologies from the people they bully. They're the ones who need to apologize.
04-21-2015 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
People talk about being immature but it's not mature to demand the unreasonable apologies that wookie clearly was.

We had a valued part/contributor to 2+2 who after 15+ reacted badly in a heated situation. The mature thing to do was to seek to cool things down, draw a line under it and move on with an agreement from him to demonstrate he had learned.
Could you at least paraphrase Wookie's unreasonable demand for an apology?
04-21-2015 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker
That's true, but it seems unlikely that all the people who owed Bruce apologies would ever provide any, so given that, it's entirely reasonable for him to skip his own part of that.
When are you going to apologize to the forum?
04-21-2015 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Anais
Wow, apologizing really makes one feel better. No wonder Bruce was so profuse with his apologies.
It's almost as liberating as wearing pink panties while biting into an estrogen infused York Peppermint Patty.
04-21-2015 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker
They're bullies! They don't deserve any apologies at all! Why are you pretending like it's the "reasonableness" of the apology that's relevant. This entire conversation just shows that you're buying into their BS. Bullies don't deserve any apologies from the people they bully. They're the ones who need to apologize.
You mean like a moderator threatening to ban out of forum, insulting everybody in that forum with a broad brush attack, and sending threatening PM's to a user?

I agree that is bullying behavior which should be apologized for.
04-21-2015 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker
They're bullies! They don't deserve any apologies at all! Why are you pretending like it's the "reasonableness" of the apology that's relevant. This entire conversation just shows that you're buying into their BS. Bullies don't deserve any apologies from the people they bully. They're the ones who need to apologize.
Yeah that's why we're still waiting on Bruce.
04-21-2015 , 08:53 AM
Anais, I'm sorry that you have no dick, but I'm glad that you've found someone willing to pretend it's not a big deal.
04-21-2015 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
You mean like a moderator threatening to ban out of forum, insulting everybody in that forum with a broad brush attack, and sending threatening PM's to a user?

I agree that is bullying behavior which should be apologized for.
Yes, but it's in response to severe bullying. Like I said the first time, he should apologize... to Mat... But even that is contingent on Mat actually doing something about the people who bullied him, which he didn't do.
04-21-2015 , 08:55 AM
If AlexM won't apologize to us, I don't see how we can move forward.
04-21-2015 , 08:56 AM
Alex, it's already been shown that since I'm such a buffoon, i must be hung like a race horse to have such a hot wife.

So if you are theorizing that I'm a penisless genius, then that would be consistent with previous assertions.
04-21-2015 , 08:59 AM
#TeamSMPsecond-stringCheerleaders,

I'm sorry your intrinsic lack of brains prevents you from know the definitions of words, thus leaving you to fling about terms like a monkey flings his own poo.

Perhaps the rest of #teamCockroach could band together and buy you guys, Alex, spank, et al., a dictionary so you could understand the meanings of these words you try, but ultimately fail, to use effectively.
04-21-2015 , 09:00 AM
He should def apologize for that crude and unwarranted ad homenim attack on Low Key. This is excessive derision and mockery.
04-21-2015 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
My perception is that there was a point where Bruce could have done something like that. He would have had to suck it up and tolerate vigorous criticism, leaving it unanswered if necessary. I don't think other posters should have been obligated to not provoke him.
There was, probably several points. It was heated and Bruce made some bad posts.

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Is it your contention that there was unseen politicking by Wookie in the mod forum that led to Mat Sklansky caving on his initial declaration that Bruce would not be de-greened?
When Bruce did start seeing the error of his ways he sought to move things to an end. That include Bruce offering to shut up even while the other mods were free to keep on having a go at him. Budging less than an inch from the other side would most likely have brought a much better outcome for Bruce and 2+2 but it now seems clear wookie at least had no interest whatsoever in finding a reasonable way forward - I had assumed it was just a continuation of things that had got out of hand but now wookie has made clear it was what he wanted.
04-21-2015 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Leo_Trollstoy
If AlexM won't apologize to us, I don't see how we can move forward.
Should probably start with an Air Grievances About AlexM Not Apologizing thread.
04-21-2015 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Leo_Trollstoy
He should def apologize for that crude and unwarranted ad homenim attack on Low Key. This is excessive derision and mockery.
I'm sure spank will be along any moment to demand an apology on my behalf for 10 straight hours.
04-21-2015 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker
Yes, but it's in response to severe bullying. Like I said the first time, he should apologize... to Mat... But even that is contingent on Mat actually doing something about the people who bullied him, which he didn't do.
You mean the half dozen offhand comments people made about Bruce''s racially problematic posts before they completely dropped the issue and moved on to other discussions? That severe bullying? The stuff that was a a very brief aside in a thread that had nothing to do with Bruce? An incident so completely unremarkable that not even Fly bothered to weigh in?

Or do you mean the completely invented in your own head rearrangement of timelines which is a proxy war for your own trivially unremarkable incident from years ago that would have been long since forgotten if you would just stop whining about it?
04-21-2015 , 09:16 AM
Lmao
04-21-2015 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
You mean the half dozen offhand comments people made about Bruce''s racially problematic posts before they completely dropped the issue and moved on to other discussions? That severe bullying? The stuff that was a a very brief aside in a thread that had nothing to do with Bruce? An incident so completely unremarkable that not even Fly bothered to weigh in?

Or do you mean the completely invented in your own head rearrangement of timelines which is a proxy war for your own trivially unremarkable incident from years ago that would have been long since forgotten if you would just stop whining about it?
Nothing's too trivial, do tell.
04-21-2015 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I did. Bruce should have been allowed to carry on modding the probability forum under the understanding he would avoid controversy for 3 months and then continued to demonstrate he had learned from his mistakes.

That was never going to be enough for wookie it now seems clear - If wookie wants to correct me he can easily explain how the above would have been acceptable in some shape or form.
So, in addition to no racism ban (which was in consideration of his contributions), literally no action taken. No public apology from Bruce. After making a bunch of racist comments and abusing his mod powers and apparently lashing out in the mod forum, Bruce remains as mod? Mighty big of Bruce not to require apologies from everyone that criticized him I guess.

95% of posters on here are pretty happy with the results, so Im guessing whatever Wookie did was fine and you and the merry band of underachieving pseudointellectuals will just have to live with it or communicate with Bruce via the thousands of other non twoplustwo methods available.

Or Bruce can stop being a whiny toddler and just return to SMP. That would work to0, but apparently you rejects simply weren't that important to him.
04-21-2015 , 09:18 AM
Btw, this demonstrates my earlier point about how pointless it is to try and have a discussion with these trolls. What I've just said is so obviously true that you would have to be way more obtuse than these guys are to not see it. But they're not going to admit it. Ever. So what, exactly, is the point of engaging?
04-21-2015 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
Nothing's too trivial, do tell.
Someone called him a racist literally years ago because he was spewing neoconfederate tripe, and he's been on a whine campaign since. Imagine if chez keeps the BruceZ thing going for another year, that's Alex.
04-21-2015 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
It's not a total loss, we did get this hilarious thread. I get more entertainment from it than I ever did from this BruceZ character I never heard of (although the icing would be if he took a break from his self-exile to pop by and give us his views on this thread.)
ya i never had any clue who he was but i would LOVE for him to come back
04-21-2015 , 09:26 AM
That would be great with LedOut self-immolating again. Bruce is a pretty similar poster to LedOut in terms of temperament and intellect. We would get two weeks or so of great fun before his anger issues popped up and he flamed out again.
04-21-2015 , 09:29 AM
is there a more obtuse troll than alex?

      
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