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04-21-2015 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Proph,

Rights and granted privileges related to communication are somewhat topical as Bruce's critics have an ongoing ignore campaign targeting at least a one of their outspoken critics. Other critics they stop at just derision and mockery.

Taking an opportunity to be open about communication and rights helps illustrate how poor of an idea that kind of behavior is towards a goal of settling the conflict. It's not helpful to anybody and it's not effective on it's target.

You see a person with a deceased reputation has no risk when facing an obvious attack designed to diminish reputation. My reputation died in a smear campaign months ago and so I have no reason to be personally effected by the tactic of an ignore campaign and I have every reason to resist the extra-personal effects of one.

So taking an opportunity to discuss human communication ability in forums open to the public is pretty smart in my opinion.

Look, I'm going to confront any person who states I don't have a human right which I have decided upon. I welcome open discussion and thorough vetting of human rights. We don't have to argue and we don't had to argue excessively if we do.
While most of the accusations against you are unfounded, you often can be quite cryptic, as you appear to be in this post. (What is a "deceased reputation"? A "bad" reputation? Or the reputation of a user who refrains from debate or is unable to participate? Apparently you mean the former.)

Quit caring what other people think about you spank, especially in a troll-ridden cesspool like 2+2. Until you quit posting, your reputation is not dead, merely changing. (If you believe otherwise, just make a new account and start fresh, like LowKey, MissileDog, et al.)

When you quit correcting misconceptions, then you allow detractors to set the agenda; however, these anti-social haters will use this as leverage to keep you interacting, because no one would freely mingle among their boorish personalities otherwise, so sometimes the only way to win is not to play. (Anyone who hangs around here for more than a week can easily discern the trolls from sincere posters, though.)



Ultimately, your choice is all that matters, and it isn't subject to the whims of others, save moderators which supposedly serve the interests of the property owners of the site; yet, it seems you've abandoned determining the validity of MrWookie's claims of racism altogether. (How easily you are distracted and misled!)

If you would like to discuss rights, feel free to take it to the Anarchy thread, where the topic has been discussed multiple times.
04-21-2015 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
You saw my apology, correct?
I don't think he meant seeing apologies from you, he thought you meant that you were witness to Bruce's apologies.
04-21-2015 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
You may think that but you didn't get your way.

Instead you got your way because you and others managed to provoke Bruce and jointly forced Mat into an untenable situation. Some applaud you for it, you may even be proud of it but you did 2+2 a great disservice.
stfu you whiny lying scumbag of a bitch
04-21-2015 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
You and others have demonstrated over and over what you consider to be racist is as little as being republican. Repeating fox news talking points is like just shy of Goebbles-level racism in your book. That nobody who happened into SMP over 10 years misconstrued his posts is something that ought to give you more pause than it does. But you are who you are, and P is what you have made it.
you too you ****ing redneck hick
04-21-2015 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
LOL building out my grand theory of SMP being an enclave for the aggressively illiterate, the way that they treat every gibberish post as a puzzle whose true meaning can never be known but should be speculated on endlessly....

When that mindset of willful pointlessness is applied to actual coherent posts, like Bruce claiming Ferguson was because of "outside agitators" or his EXTENSIVE history of pro-slavery bull****, the same torrent of guessing at what could possibly be meant occurs. It's all they know.


But given all that, conceding EVERYTHING to you lot... why are you here, then? Go back to your idiot inclusion zone, you guys can ****ing boggle at the majesty of Holocaust denial(So contrarian!) or whatever in peace.

Why are you over here with the educated folks if you're so aggressively uninterested in an educated discussion? There is nobody stopping you from packing up FoldN, Brian, masque, everybody(except duffee LOL) and engaging in nonsensical stream of consciousness riffing back on friendly ground.
lol posts like this are why i still check this thread, i don't have the energy or desire to be so eloquent and creative in my insulting of smug morans
04-21-2015 , 07:54 AM
Looks like spanky is practicing excessive mockery and derision upon proph without substance. This is indicative by the presence of excessive mocking and derisive behavior which is connected with it in a pattern, a patently dishonest and misleading question for the purpose of intentionally inviting excessive argumentation.
04-21-2015 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
You saw my apology, correct?
I gave it the due consideration Id give to anything posted from the mentally troubled shut in crew.
04-21-2015 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
We now know that only an unreasonable level of apology was acceptable to you.

Why were you so bothered about him modding the probability forum during that 3 months? Of what possible importance was it to you unless you simply wanted him gone from 2+2.
Are you ever going to get around to what you think actually should have happened you blubbering ****ing baby?
04-21-2015 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Leo_Trollstoy
Looks like spanky is practicing excessive mockery and derision upon proph without substance. This is indicative by the presence of excessive mocking and derisive behavior which is connected with it in a pattern, a patently dishonest and misleading question for the purpose of intentionally inviting excessive argumentation.
04-21-2015 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
A reasonable solution includes apologies that you already agreed never happened.
That's true, but it seems unlikely that all the people who owed Bruce apologies would ever provide any, so given that, it's entirely reasonable for him to skip his own part of that.
04-21-2015 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Are you ever going to get around to what you think actually should have happened
I did. Bruce should have been allowed to carry on modding the probability forum under the understanding he would avoid controversy for 3 months and then continued to demonstrate he had learned from his mistakes.

That was never going to be enough for wookie it now seems clear - If wookie wants to correct me he can easily explain how the above would have been acceptable in some shape or form.
04-21-2015 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker
That's true, but it seems unlikely that all the people who owed Bruce apologies would ever provide any, so given that, it's entirely reasonable for him to skip his own part of that.
Could you provide links to the posts people should apologize for?
04-21-2015 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker
That's true, but it seems unlikely that all the people who owed Bruce apologies would ever provide any, so given that, it's entirely reasonable for him to skip his own part of that.
sure, that's a good point, if bruce is a 5 year old
04-21-2015 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
You are subject to subjective modding in every forum, and no one pretends otherwise.

Kerowo literally said that banning you in the hypothetical he described would be wrong. He agrees with you and me that it would be wrong! You quoted him saying it was wrong in that very post.
Threaten, threaten, threaten.

But oh, that would be wrong!

So that's how a mod is supposed to threaten people? So basically, people can issue any threat they want as long as they say something like "but I wouldn't do that" or "j/k" at the end?
04-21-2015 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Could you provide links to the posts people should apologize for?
Every single one that called him racist.
04-21-2015 , 08:28 AM
lol
04-21-2015 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker
Every single one that called him racist.
The truth typically absolves one from recompense. Moran.
04-21-2015 , 08:33 AM
chez, since you continue alluding to conversations that allegedly happened in the mod forum (which afaik you do not have access to), I believe you may be suffering from a missing bits scenario.
04-21-2015 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Porker
That's true, but it seems unlikely that all the people who owed Bruce apologies would ever provide any, so given that, it's entirely reasonable for him to skip his own part of that.
People talk about being immature but it's not mature to demand the unreasonable apologies that wookie clearly was.

We had a valued part/contributor to 2+2 who after 15+ reacted badly in a heated situation. The mature thing to do was to seek to cool things down, draw a line under it and move on with an agreement from him to demonstrate he had learned.
04-21-2015 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
People talk about being immature but it's not mature to demand the unreasonable apologies that wookie clearly was.

We had a key valued contributor to 2+2 who after 15+ reacted badly in a heated situation. The mature thing to do was to seek to cool things down, draw a line under it and move on with an agreement from him to demonstrate he had learned.
Didn't he try that? And lasted about 3 or 4 days before he melted down again and threatened PVN? Am I missing any bits here?
04-21-2015 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
People talk about being immature but it's not mature to demand the unreasonable apologies that wookie clearly was.

We had a valued part/contributor to 2+2 who after 15+ reacted badly in a heated situation. The mature thing to do was to seek to cool things down, draw a line under it and move on with an agreement from him to demonstrate he had learned.
I'm sorry both you and your butt buddy Bruce are such imbecilic infants that neither of you can process concepts in an adult fashion and might become offended due to that lack of intellect and maturity.

There. I apologized. At least, as much as Bruce did, right?
04-21-2015 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I did. Bruce should have been allowed to carry on modding the probability forum under the understanding he would avoid controversy for 3 months and then continued to demonstrate he had learned from his mistakes.

That was never going to be enough for wookie it now seems clear - If wookie wants to correct me he can easily explain how the above would have been acceptable in some shape or form.
My perception is that there was a point where Bruce could have done something like that. He would have had to suck it up and tolerate vigorous criticism, leaving it unanswered if necessary. I don't think other posters should have been obligated to not provoke him.

Is it your contention that there was unseen politicking by Wookie in the mod forum that led to Mat Sklansky caving on his initial declaration that Bruce would not be de-greened?
04-21-2015 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
You may think that but you didn't get your way.

Instead you got your way because you and others managed to provoke Bruce and jointly forced Mat into an untenable situation. Some applaud you for it, you may even be proud of it but you did 2+2 a great disservice.
It's not a total loss, we did get this hilarious thread. I get more entertainment from it than I ever did from this BruceZ character I never heard of (although the icing would be if he took a break from his self-exile to pop by and give us his views on this thread.)
04-21-2015 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
The truth typically absolves one from recompense. Moran.
So, when all the children in school mock a child because their father is dead, it's okay? Nice try, but no. It's bullying whether it's true or not and it's not acceptable.
04-21-2015 , 08:46 AM
Alex,

I'm sorry you hold the views of neo-confederates and that people pointing out what a racist dung-for-brains tosser you are offends you.

I hope you accept my sincere apology, or else you a slightly bigger ass than we all previously thought.

      
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