So is braves not a native English speaker? I assumed he was a fan of the Atlanta baseball team. What does his name mean if he's actually one of our forum's never-ending supply of socially awkward Euroteens?

There is no premise in that question to refute, you didn't refute anything(??? You can't just say "I refute" something, refute is a verb, it means disprove), and you don't seem to understand what "loaded question" means. So, given all that, is this a concession that all white people DO have white privilege?



Yeah, well, I know how to use punctuation.

People can not possess stereotypes. I refute the premise based on the fact it lacks logical validity. It's not surprising we are going in circles. You and others have consistently tried to get me to argue the truth values of "white privilege". Here is something that will blow your mind:

"white privilege"

is not a fact. Its a concept, its an idea, its an image of society, its a collection of observations but not a fact, none the less. I make no judgment on whether it exist or not. Once again, whether the concept is true or not is irrelevant to the fact, its an oversimplified image or characterization of white people, which makes it a stereotype. Whether or not white privilege is true or not or it exist or not, it still does not validate the stereotype as logically valid. You can keep trying to ask these questions with faulty premises, I'm not going to engage in proving or disproving a stereotype. It's pointless.

wat?

Read the definition of stereotype, then read about association fallacies. Whether or not you prove the existence of a good black basketball player (or several of them) it does not validate the stereotype "all black people have good basketball skills". Using empirical evidence to cite examples of people benefiting from discrimination does not make it a fact that all white people have benefited from it. Once you come the realization that "white privilege" is not a fact but rather an image or concept of white people based on empirical evidence concerning discrimination, it is rather easy to understand how its a stereotype. Stereotypes are association fallacies.

braves, does it give you pause, at all, in what is fundamentally a disagreement about what words mean, that you are the party incapable of expressing yourself coherently?

I do poorly with grammar, I do extremely well with context and comprehension. While I wish I could articulate better, the problem is not that you do not understand what I'm saying, the problem is you fail to grasp it. You've made up your own definition of stereotype in the face of several reputable dictionaries then insist upon I'm the one getting it wrong. You still believe a stereotype has something to do with extrinsic and intrinsic qualities. You believe measuring the truth values of a premise validates an oversimplified image of people. The problem is not on my end.

No, it does not give me pause. I've posted excerpts of people who are much more adept at writing than I, and it still gets past you.....

I don't think you do nearly as well with context and comprehension as you seem to believe. You should probably be a bit less confident there.

I have a challenge for you. Name one extrinsic characteristic about all white people or all black people that is non-biological and not related to privilege or the discrimination argument and is not a stereotype.

You are pretty ****ing stupid if you cant understand that.

Name one outside force everyone faces? How about death.

Your question makes no sense.

Neither does the question "do all white people have white privilege". Death is not a characteristic, idea or an image.

Many here believe they've found the one unique and extrinsic image, characteristic or idea that applies to every single individual of a race.

So now you agree your question makes no sense?

I guess you are incapable of understanding the context the question was presented in. It was to demonstrate the illogical absurdity of the white privilege argument.

It's not hard to understand all white people have white privilege. It's also not hard to understand it doesn't manifest itself in all situations at all times.

How can you not see this as a contradiction?

Because it's obviously not.

So sometimes white people do not have white privilege but all white people have white privilege.

Look up manifest and get back to us. You seem to be struggling with comprehending what I said.

If a privilege does not manifest, there is no benefit, if there is no benefit, there is no privilege. There is no such thing as a dormant or invisible privilege. If it's not active you are no longer benefiting from it and thereby no longer privileged for what ever period of time it doesn't manifest. I comprehend exactly what you are saying. I cant help with your cognitive dissonance.

If I am suffering from heart palpitations, do I not actually have it if some heart beats don't actually palpitate?

I used to be tall, but then I sat down in this chair.

I used to be white, but then I rejected racial categorization as part of my personal identity.

That doesn't mean those around you did the same.