chezlaw has seized on the fact that Wookie doesn't share the SMP poster infatuation with Bruce like he's ****ing Matlock crossing the witness who really did it.

He never considered that people besides his smp fluffers would be reading his posts ldo

You say its not serious, your opinion. It's like MrWookies opinion of Bruce, one-sided. He actually demands apologies based on such an opinion. Are you willing to hear to other sides, like a serious side of an opinion?


If it is responsible for individuals to take conflicts involving racism in the community seriously, the unserious opinion may lead to irresponsible mistakes.

But wasn't this thread (title) made just to troll (and contain) Chez? Unless you consider containing him serious business.

Remember fly is only here to generate excessive argumentation. It is odd as he should be smart enough to realize the diminishing returns on avoiding diminished and excluded information made explicit.

Asking incredible questions and being astounded is just some more kinds of excessive argumentation.

Mr wookie seriousness maybe unintentionally fake as moving this thread here and placing the title is unserious behavior. If he doesn't take obvious social dysfunction seriously in the community, he should probably put a check on that for leadership purposes in a society which does in fact take racial problems very serious.

Only because no one outside of SMP bothered to read his posts before. As we all saw, Bruce has a lengthy history of making racist posts.

And I consider racist posts to be racist and threats to forum members outside of one's moderator jurisdiction to be unacceptable even if the person making them has also proved the Riemann Hypothesis.

Bruce is not a racist and did not make his posts with a racist intent, so how can his posts be absolutely racist? What makes them immorally racist?

Why do you mock and deride the setting where the posts were made? The setting is quite informative.

Why do you add Bruce's behavior in a mutually adversarial and emotional situation like it is without understandable context?

We get you accuse Bruce of being bad because of your opinion of his behavior, but your opinion does not completely explain Bruce's behavior and doesn't factor in anyone else's behavior. It is one-sided..

You may think that but you didn't get your way.

Instead you got your way because you and others managed to provoke Bruce and jointly forced Mat into an untenable situation. Some applaud you for it, you may even be proud of it but you did 2+2 a great disservice.

So do you have links to those posts where people were intentionally provoking Bruce in order to force Mat into an untenable position?

chez, we are all perfectly clear on what you believe, but you can't prove it because it didn't happen. You made it all up in your own head.

Is it actually arguable that Mat was under pressure to apply MrWookies and company's opinion? Y'all did have a moveon.org petition or two. What other way is their to describe pvns style as excessively argumentative? Plenty of folks were pushing aggro.
Excessive argumentation can be both intentional or unintentional.

The only thing that matters now imo is we can choose stop because excessive argumentation has been identified as a factor in the matter being unsettlable.

Chez, what did BruceZ do wrong?

PS: Why are you even here?

lol at acting like the change.org petitions were meaningful in any way

Which of Bruce's main critics didn't confront him with mockery, derision, accusation, or other argumentation? Bruce's side of the story was and is persistently given negative value. The setting and his intentions are still mocked and derided without substance. Just being emotional is a crime? At what point does this add up to becoming an unintentional exercise in erasing a person and replacing them with an opinion? I can not witness that in silence in my community.

Even worse the accusation against Bruce are used for substanceless entertainment at the expense of others in the community. I mean I guess it is possible if they target chezlaw enough he might crack and have a meltdown, but that would just prove an assumption of why their behavior deserves criticism.

Why anyone would think this is a big funny is certainly questionable.

Substance-less just asking questions. Pointlessly argumentative.

Mockery, derision, cherry-picking. substance-less and excessively argumentative.

Why spin the wheel of accusation when you can just use them all!

Mocking accusatory behavior doesn't diminish either.

I don't care to diminish your accusatory behavior, it's funny.

You and others have demonstrated over and over what you consider to be racist is as little as being republican. Repeating fox news talking points is like just shy of Goebbles-level racism in your book. That nobody who happened into SMP over 10 years misconstrued his posts is something that ought to give you more pause than it does. But you are who you are, and P is what you have made it.

That's obviously intentional, but for what purpose is there to persist in behaving excessively argumentative while many other funnier things exist and this matter is easily considered somewhat seriously.

There were some concerns about some of his posts but wookie and a few others are being ridiculous

It was a philosophy forum, people argued the merits of running babies over with trolleys, killing healthy people to harvest their organs and all sorts stuff that would be unacceptable in a politics forum.

JFC will someone put this ass clown on timeout already.

EDIT: That was referring to spank ldo