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04-18-2015 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
Elite. You are the only good thing in Unchained.
04-18-2015 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I'm pretty sure this resolution is actually good for 2+2
Pleased to hear you finally say it. You actually think it's good that 2+2 has alienated a major contributor to the stuff that's actually relevant to 2+2 - did you even make an effort to find out what he contributed?

The only major issue I have with you is the fact you think it was a good thing to force it so far, it's your general approach as I have kept trying to point out. We could have saved a lot of time if much earlier you had said you think it best that Bruce was alienated to the point he left 2+2 - though maybe you realise it would have been counter-productive to say so.

All the rest is unimportant detail now but as some seem so unaware of those missing bits it's good to agree they are not in dispute.

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Every single thing you listed is in dispute, other than the fact that Tom didn't initially quote the entirety of each Bruce's posts in the first three quotes. What Tom quoted was racist, and adding the rest of the posts did not make them any less racist.
I don't think tom intentionally missed off those bit but it mattered to Bruce and they could easily have been added. Bruce thought they made a big difference and it was unreasonable not to simply add them. I wasn't making a big until 'experts' on the fiasco seemed so bewildered about what happened right at the beginning.

and the pap psychology was just a dreadful argument.

Last edited by chezlaw; 04-18-2015 at 05:57 AM.
04-18-2015 , 07:29 AM
I was reading through this thread and came across this (my discovery of this forum was based on research on something similar):

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Originally Posted by MrWookie
If someone says "Asians are bad drivers," what additional personal thoughts, experiences, and actions do I need to be savvy to in order to safely say, "That's racist?"

What is an example of some of the heightened discourse we missed out on when we called one of your posts racist?
Not saying there is but rather hypothetically speaking if there was any amount of empirical evidence that supported the bold, would it make it not racist? I presume no because it is a stereotype.

Spoiler:
"Whites are privileged"


Just saying.

Last edited by braves2017; 04-18-2015 at 07:36 AM.
04-18-2015 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker


I hope I can get chez to sign my copy.
04-18-2015 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Pleased to hear you finally say it. You actually think it's good that 2+2 has alienated a major contributor to the stuff that's actually relevant to 2+2 - did you even make an effort to find out what he contributed?

The only major issue I have with you is the fact you think it was a good thing to force it so far, it's your general approach as I have kept trying to point out. We could have saved a lot of time if much earlier you had said you think it best that Bruce was alienated to the point he left 2+2 - though maybe you realise it would have been counter-productive to say so.
Once again, here's chez blatantly misrepresenting a poster's clearly stated positions.
04-18-2015 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Once again
Yeah the fair minded zigzag. Once again indeed.
04-18-2015 , 08:55 AM
Seriously chez, when the hell do you sleep?
04-18-2015 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Seriously chez, when the hell do you sleep?
Sleep how can anyone sleep?

I've got the difficult second book to write.
04-18-2015 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
A+
04-18-2015 , 09:45 AM
Chezlaw's hypocrisy, obfuscation, childishness, and obsession has reached level spanktehbadwookie.

Can't see why anyone bothers communicating with him further.
04-18-2015 , 10:04 AM
Cheezelawl evasively calling others evasive is a hoot.

No depths to the amount of hypocrisy from #teamSMP
04-18-2015 , 10:06 AM
Also, Duker GOAT

And LedOut back to complain about Asians?
04-18-2015 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
Not saying there is but rather hypothetically speaking if there was any amount of empirical evidence that supported the bold, would it make it not racist? I presume no because it is a stereotype.
Whether something is racist or not is praxeological, so empirical evidence is irrelevant.
04-18-2015 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Pleased to hear you finally say it. You actually think it's good that 2+2 has alienated a major contributor to the stuff that's actually relevant to 2+2 - did you even make an effort to find out what he contributed?

The only major issue I have with you is the fact you think it was a good thing to force it so far, it's your general approach as I have kept trying to point out. We could have saved a lot of time if much earlier you had said you think it best that Bruce was alienated to the point he left 2+2 - though maybe you realise it would have been counter-productive to say so.

All the rest is unimportant detail now but as some seem so unaware of those missing bits it's good to agree they are not in dispute.


I don't think tom intentionally missed off those bit but it mattered to Bruce and they could easily have been added. Bruce thought they made a big difference and it was unreasonable not to simply add them. I wasn't making a big until 'experts' on the fiasco seemed so bewildered about what happened right at the beginning.

and the pap psychology was just a dreadful argument.
Personally, I thought the optimal solution was for Bruce to recognize his racism, apologize to everyone for being a giant ******* and a racist, pledge to be less racist in the future, and then take himself, you, Foldn, and #TeamSMP back to the stinking hole you came from. None of that ever happened, so we work with what we can. Alienating an unapologetic racist and a moderator who abuses his position on a personal vendetta is the best we could do.
04-18-2015 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Personally, I thought the optimal solution was for Bruce to recognize his racism, apologize to everyone for being a giant ******* and a racist, pledge to be less racist in the future, and then take himself, you, Foldn, and #TeamSMP back to the stinking hole you came from. None of that ever happened, so we work with what we can. Alienating an unapologetic racist and a moderator who abuses his position on a personal vendetta is the best we could do.
It's good to hear you say it out loud. Too late for those that matter to take it into account but at least now we all know.

A very poor outcome for 2+2 but it it was it is.
04-18-2015 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Personally, I thought the optimal solution was for Bruce to recognize his racism, apologize to everyone for being a giant ******* and a racist, pledge to be less racist in the future, and then take himself, you, Foldn, and #TeamSMP back to the stinking hole you came from. None of that ever happened, so we work with what we can. Alienating an unapologetic racist and a moderator who abuses his position on a personal vendetta is the best we could do.
So if Bruce is a "giant ******* and a racist," you must think he hates people based on race?
04-18-2015 , 11:06 AM
In before black friends?
04-18-2015 , 11:18 AM
Comparing Mexicans to cockroaches isn't anything besides hateful. Though keep pretending you SMPers are just roleplaying KKK members.
04-18-2015 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Personally, I thought the optimal solution was for Bruce to recognize his racism, apologize to everyone for being a giant ******* and a racist, pledge to be less racist in the future, and then take himself, you, Foldn, and #TeamSMP back to the stinking hole you came from. None of that ever happened, so we work with what we can. Alienating an unapologetic racist and a moderator who abuses his position on a personal vendetta is the best we could do.
"The best thing to do when we attack you is to completely submit to our authority and lie through your teeth.

After all, it's not like the approach we use will ever actually convince someone that they're racist. Doing something useful and helpful wouldn't be any fun."
04-18-2015 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Personally, I thought the optimal solution was for Bruce to recognize his racism, apologize to everyone for being a giant ******* and a racist, pledge to be less racist in the future, and then take himself, you, Foldn, and #TeamSMP back to the stinking hole you came from. None of that ever happened, so we work with what we can. Alienating an unapologetic racist and a moderator who abuses his position on a personal vendetta is the best we could do.
Wait, are we talking about Bruce or YOU?
04-18-2015 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Comparing Mexicans to cockroaches isn't anything besides hateful. Though keep pretending you SMPers are just roleplaying KKK members.
This seems to be the fallback that everyone here uses because they really, really want to feel justified calling him a hateful racist, but can you guys not see that this is the reason you're wrong? Practically everyone who posted with Bruce throughout the years knows that comparison was not intentionally made, and that he does not hate other races.

Bruce is obviously a Fox news junkie who could use more empathy, and for most of you that's enough to make him into a racist monster. To that side you guys will continue to be bleeding hearts who think with your vags. And so goes the political polarization of the country.
04-18-2015 , 11:54 AM
FoldN not being a racist POS like you doesn't make someone a bleeding heart vag you ****ing dolt.
04-18-2015 , 11:55 AM
Racist!!!
04-18-2015 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
This seems to be the fallback that everyone here uses because they really, really want to feel justified calling him a hateful racist, but can you guys not see that this is the reason you're wrong? Practically everyone who posted with Bruce throughout the years knows that comparison was not intentionally made, and that he does not hate other races.

Bruce is obviously a Fox news junkie who could use more empathy, and for most of you that's enough to make him into a racist monster. To that side you guys will continue to be bleeding hearts who think with your vags. And so goes the political polarization of the country.
No. If you don't see why what he said makes him a racist piece of **** you're a hopeless idiot. Plain and simple.

And lol at that comparison not being intentional... pvn or someone else already showed a history of Bruce's racist material that went back farther. It's not an isolated incident.
04-18-2015 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ctyri
Chezlaw's hypocrisy, obfuscation, childishness, and obsession has reached level spanktehbadwookie.

Can't see why anyone bothers communicating with him further.

What a long list of accusations. Cytri has been a leader in piling on with the stupid derision.

      
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