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05-29-2012 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sandsmarc
I do not think that 3 hours of play and $60 in slot play is nearly enough. I am not sure what the Borgata officially views as "worth it" to comp poker players, but I would think at least 6 hours. You can't expect them to give you a premium casino hotel room for playing 3 hours plus a measly $60 in the slot machine.

When they give me a free room, I consider it an implied contract and I am expected to hold up my end of the bargain. So I try and play at least 8 hours. Frequently even 12 or 13 hours over the 2 days. I just break it up into 4 hour sessions. 2 sessions the day I am staying followed by some morning play before I check out. Although official check-in time is 4PM, you can often actually check in much earlier. I have checked in at 12:30 several times. Than I can get right down to action and put in my time.

Remember, you are also in competition with other poker players. I would think the computer would favor the players who put in longer hours.
Comped rooms are a privilege, and you should plan some serious degeneracy when you avail yourself of the luxury.
Not true anymore. Rates and comps are based on your play only.

Stan
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05-29-2012 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 85chickasaw
really think players should be encouraged to use the dinner list. i'm not sure a lot of them even know it exists..
Huh? Dinner list? I didn't know it existed either. How does it work?
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05-29-2012 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East
Not true anymore. Rates and comps are based on your play only.

Stan
So Stan, if I drop by Borgata to play some $1/2, how long will I have to play during a trip when I didn't get a comp room in order to get offered a comp room in a future visit? Nine hours got me a room but three hours didn't in my very small sample size...
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05-29-2012 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NYCNative
So Stan, if I drop by Borgata to play some $1/2, how long will I have to play during a trip when I didn't get a comp room in order to get offered a comp room in a future visit? Nine hours got me a room but three hours didn't in my very small sample size...
To be honest I do not know the answer. At least we know 9 hours can do the trick.

Stan
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05-29-2012 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by icantfoldsets
Huh? Dinner list? I didn't know it existed either. How does it work?
This only makes sense for time games.

You go up to the floor tell them to put you on the dinner list. Then you pick up your chips and go eat. You have an hour.

When you come back you're first up(unless others are on the dinner list) to get back into your game. If there is a must move, with a seat you'd go there and go to first up on the most move list instead.

Pretty good deal, definitely the way to go if one is planning on coming back.
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05-29-2012 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East
To be honest I do not know the answer. At least we know 9 hours can do the trick.

Stan
I have gotten the usual Sun-Thurs offers even at 6-7 hours. However, if I am going to make the trip, I plan 12+ hours over two days. What's the use of driving down to play for 4 hours and spend the rest of the time sitting in a free hotel room?
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05-29-2012 , 11:05 PM
Random comp question - I visit Borgata a few times a year for a weekend, and when I do, I typically put in insanely long sessions at fairly high stakes in the poker room, with little to no play in the pit. My room offers are generally Borgata rooms for anytime but holiday weekends, and Water Club rooms any night but Saturdays.

In a couple weekends, my wife and I are staying at Water Club Friday and Saturday night for our anniversary, and we're using my comp offer for the room*. I likely won't gamble much/any that weekend - it's just not her thing, and I'm not trying to piss off the wife on our anniversary weekend. Will that be looked upon unfavorably for future room offers? I'm sure I'll spend ~$2K or so on restaurants/spa/bars/shopping over the course of the weekend. Is there any way the casino tracks this "other" spending on their property? (i.e. will they ask for your Borgata card at Immersion or at Homestead so it's on record you're spending a bunch of money on the property, and not just mooching off comped rooms?)

I don't want future comps to be negatively affected, especially when I'll be spending way more money on this trip than on a typical one, just not at the tables...

* Also, are there any tricks to get upgraded from a Club room to a Vista room?
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05-30-2012 , 12:51 AM
I would suggest charging the spa plus as many meals, purchases, etc. to your room as possible, so that way it will show that there was a lot of spending that went along with your stay. Also, do some gambling while your wife is in the spa.
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05-30-2012 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sandsmarc
I have gotten the usual Sun-Thurs offers even at 6-7 hours. However, if I am going to make the trip, I plan 12+ hours over two days. What's the use of driving down to play for 4 hours and spend the rest of the time sitting in a free hotel room?
I usually play longer but my wife got sick and I didn't want to leaver her in the hotel room alone while she was feeling bad... That's okay, I'll make a day trip sometime and put in some hours.
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05-30-2012 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I would suggest charging the spa plus as many meals, purchases, etc. to your room as possible, so that way it will show that there was a lot of spending that went along with your stay. Also, do some gambling while your wife is in the spa.
if you use the same credit card for all purchases they can trace that.
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05-31-2012 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
if you use the same credit card for all purchases they can trace that.
Yep, I bought tix to a show once and have been getting offers for 2 free tix to random events and the comedy club once a month.
Yesterday I received an email saying that I could get 2 free tickets to see Weezer on the 1st. Too bad I'm in Vegas for the month
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05-31-2012 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by prototypepariah
This only makes sense for time games.
If you see it as being all about you, yes.

In a raked game, a stack with no player behind it doesn't pay anything. In a timed game, your stack pays time even if you're not in the seat at collection.

But the point of giving up the seat and going on the dinner list is not holding up a seat that's not playing when there's a list for the game. You get the first available seat when you come back, someone who's waiting for a seat gets to sit in, and the players at the table aren't stuck with a dead seat.
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05-31-2012 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sirpupnyc
If you see it as being all about you, yes.

In a raked game, a stack with no player behind it doesn't pay anything. In a timed game, your stack pays time even if you're not in the seat at collection.

But the point of giving up the seat and going on the dinner list is not holding up a seat that's not playing when there's a list for the game. You get the first available seat when you come back, someone who's waiting for a seat gets to sit in, and the players at the table aren't stuck with a dead seat.
this. exactly.
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05-31-2012 , 02:13 PM
Posted this question on Borg open thread-
I've never preregistered for Tournament on Borg website before.

Is there an addl fee ?

Does it save time/is there a different line (for Borg open next week) ?

Do they charge you credit card upfront, or is it just a hold
& can you pay cash when you pick up ticket ?
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05-31-2012 , 06:38 PM
how was the ride and hows it going?
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05-31-2012 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iseedeadmoney
Yep, I bought tix to a show once and have been getting offers for 2 free tix to random events and the comedy club once a month.
Yesterday I received an email saying that I could get 2 free tickets to see Weezer on the 1st. Too bad I'm in Vegas for the month
how was the ride out?
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05-31-2012 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sirpupnyc
If you see it as being all about you, yes.

In a raked game, a stack with no player behind it doesn't pay anything. In a timed game, your stack pays time even if you're not in the seat at collection.

But the point of giving up the seat and going on the dinner list is not holding up a seat that's not playing when there's a list for the game. You get the first available seat when you come back, someone who's waiting for a seat gets to sit in, and the players at the table aren't stuck with a dead seat.
I agree with your logic. I just don't see many people not doing the "all about me aspect" when making a decision amongst strangers.

you have to also consider in a raked/nl game. You would be potentially giving up a stack(or letting one say they had xxx on the table more) or being put at one of the 15 different tables, when the one you are at is good.

It also in a time game, where one or two are running tops, if it breaks it likely won't start back up that day. You can't just go to the next 20-40 game on a wednesday night.
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06-01-2012 , 10:46 AM
True, there are certainly a lot of variables, but some consideration to the game and the other players couldn't be a bad thing.

If a game's that liable to break there's probably no list and less point in picking up to go to dinner anyway.

And if a table is so good, who wants to waste an hour eating?
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06-01-2012 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sirpupnyc
If you see it as being all about you, yes.

In a raked game, a stack with no player behind it doesn't pay anything. In a timed game, your stack pays time even if you're not in the seat at collection.

But the point of giving up the seat and going on the dinner list is not holding up a seat that's not playing when there's a list for the game. You get the first available seat when you come back, someone who's waiting for a seat gets to sit in, and the players at the table aren't stuck with a dead seat.
I never use the dinner list personally.

FWIW, I would give my seat up and go on dinner list if there were a decent wait for a game, but at $1/$2 that's never the case. Either the wait list is short, thus players dont wait long (due to the high number of tables), or the wait list is long, and they start a new table.

Maybe im sort of irritating the nits at the table for making the game more short handed, but whatever. If I like my position at the table, I think going on the dinner list is more of an inconvenience/EV- play for me than leaving my chips on the table is an inconvenience/EV- for everyone still at the table. (and if im not in love with my position, i normally just get up)
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06-01-2012 , 06:37 PM
Still not seeing the point of the dinner list. If you're only going to be gone for under an hour, why is it such a big deal to sit out? I'm still paying time, so I have the right to leave my stack there for the 20 minutes I'm grabbing a bite. If I'm keeping my chips at my seat there while I'm eating, it's probably because it's a good seat in a good game that would be a hot commodity if I got up.

It's silly that the dinner list is for people leaving for under an hour, because it's the players who leave their chips on the table for 2 hours and then come back and rack up after a few hands that are really making the table shorthanded. It really should be for players leaving for over an hour for the list to be useful so that seats aren't locked up and unused for extensive periods of time.

Frankly, playing short handed doesn't bother me. I know how to adjust. So I don't mind if a few people from my table are gone for dinner. For those of you who don't like playing short handed, get a table change, or learn to adjust, which will make you a better overall player anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tomark
If I like my position at the table, I think going on the dinner list is more of an inconvenience/EV- play for me than leaving my chips on the table is an inconvenience/EV- for everyone still at the table.
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06-03-2012 , 12:54 AM
poker etiquette

#18 it is not polite for a player loosening her belt prior to taking an excessive amount of time going to the buffet to leave her chips on the table.

(if I was paid by the letter, i would change 'not polite' to 'considered impolite')
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06-03-2012 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dipce
poker etiquette

#18 it is not polite for a player loosening her belt prior to taking an excessive amount of time going to the buffet to leave her chips on the table.

(if I was paid by the letter, i would change 'not polite' to 'considered impolite')
Good think im not a girl AMIRITE?
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06-03-2012 , 09:22 AM
her? He was referring to me

dipce is just jealous because he always wants my seat

j/k actually, I don't know who you are irl

I agree with the excessive part. Like I said, as long as you don't keep your chips there for the maximum of an hour and half, come back and play less than one orbit, leave, I don't see the problem with locking up a good seat.

But I think the key here is excessive. If I have the perfect seat (nits on left, aggro idiots on right), I don't wanna miss out on the hugely +EV time in the seat anyway. So time away not excessive
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06-03-2012 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by icantfoldsets
If I have the perfect seat (nits on left, aggro idiots on right), I don't wanna miss out on the hugely +EV time in the seat anyway. So time away not excessive
agreed. I guess if I just had a huge chipstack and wanted to keep grinding it to see how big I can get it, but the table isnt great, I may take my time with my break.
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06-03-2012 , 07:54 PM
Ok so I there was an interesting situation at my table last night, that caused a big hoopla at about 1:15am. The real question that arose from the issue was:

Is a bet at the Borgata when A. the chips cross the line or B. a forward motion (even if it stays behind the line
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