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01-09-2012 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jpgoody123
Problem is that I won't have time before this weekend. I haven't booked it yet.
Oh, ...have you checked your comps? I once got a comped suite on a sat. night without a black card! But I was playing table games, and winning like a nut! You didn't say if you played at the B, if you have then I would PM Stan, to see what he can do for you, otherwise I would look at the main Borgata website for deals... here check out this page;

http://www.theborgata.com/Main.cfm?C...ategory_2=2200

they are not cheap, but hope that helps.
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01-09-2012 , 02:21 PM
Stan,

Dealing to an empty seat is a ridiculous waste of time!!! Each player is paying the Borgata $10 to $22 per hour (depending on the game) to play poker. We are not playing poker, but still paying time, during card changes and fills and a variety of other delays. Dealing to empty seats and then collecting those dead cards are a complete waste of time. Over the long term, those few seconds add up to many hours of wasted time and energy. Dealers who have short arms (or just lazy) and have to ask players to hand them the dead cards will cause further delay. The additional misdeals that will inevitably result dealing to empty seats will cause even more delay. Just because other casinos do it, and some high limit players are asking for it, does not make it good practice. It benefits no one. It creates more work for your dealers and less time playing poker for your customers. It's a lose-lose situation.

Last edited by inVINcible; 01-09-2012 at 02:27 PM.
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01-09-2012 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jpgoody123
Is it worth going to the Borgata if you don't plan to play anything. Just a romantic weekend with the wife? Is there any way to get a good deal on the rooms?
Borgata has some hot clubs, excellent spas, restaurant, rooms. So yes...

They may have some combo packages on line. Doubt you can get a better package without play history. But if you are premium rated at another casino, call customer care and ask for a host and talk to him/her...
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01-09-2012 , 03:02 PM
I just got a ruling from the floor that in a bounty tournament, throwing your bounty chip in as a bet is NOT an all in. Is this correct?
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01-09-2012 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MorseStreet
I just got a ruling from the floor that in a bounty tournament, throwing your bounty chip in as a bet is NOT an all in. Is this correct?
Yes. Definitely correct.

-ActionBob
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01-09-2012 , 03:27 PM
Why?
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01-09-2012 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MorseStreet
Why?
I think it is because you may have just picked up the wrong chip, unless you announced All-in, that would be my guess anyway.
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01-09-2012 , 03:46 PM
either push all of your chips in or just say "all-in"

the floor was correct, i do not disagree with your intent but others may not understand what you are doing, you need to make your actions easily understandable to prevent confusion

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Originally Posted by MorseStreet
Why?
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01-09-2012 , 04:08 PM
It's not an all-in button it's a bounty chip.
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01-09-2012 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by inVINcible
Stan,

Dealing to an empty seat is a ridiculous waste of time!!! Each player is paying the Borgata $10 to $22 per hour (depending on the game) to play poker. We are not playing poker, but still paying time, during card changes and fills and a variety of other delays. Dealing to empty seats and then collecting those dead cards are a complete waste of time. Over the long term, those few seconds add up to many hours of wasted time and energy. Dealers who have short arms (or just lazy) and have to ask players to hand them the dead cards will cause further delay. The additional misdeals that will inevitably result dealing to empty seats will cause even more delay. Just because other casinos do it, and some high limit players are asking for it, does not make it good practice. It benefits no one. It creates more work for your dealers and less time playing poker for your customers. It's a lose-lose situation.
Have you ever played at the Bellagio? It doesn't create any problems at all. If the dealers are competent there shouldn't be any issues. If they aren't competent enough to make this a non-issue then there are bigger things to worry about.
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01-09-2012 , 04:20 PM
Okay, I'm not arguing but in rooms I play in (Foxwoods) and also on any major bounty tournament I've seen televised (I believe NAPT) putting your bounty chip in the pot is declaring all in.
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01-09-2012 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MorseStreet
Okay, I'm not arguing but in rooms I play in (Foxwoods) and also on any major bounty tournament I've seen televised (I believe NAPT) putting your bounty chip in the pot is declaring all in.
I was about to reply to the earlier post asking why? with

because this is not Foxwoods...
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01-09-2012 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ciabathehutt
Have you ever played at the Bellagio? It doesn't create any problems at all. If the dealers are competent there shouldn't be any issues. If they aren't competent enough to make this a non-issue then there are bigger things to worry about.

I have, I don't recall them dealing in empty seats in 10 or 20. What's the rationale? Because they haven't missed a blind? But they aren't there to see they have a hand anyway. I'm sorry, i'm must be missing a benefit or something. Someone show me the light ! ; )

As for the people are slowing the game down for drinks,waitress, ballgames..Sure they are, and if it's bad i'll ask them to act, as will most normal players. But as a player, and I can't really tell another player that he's slow, or not acting timely generally speaking. I can however ask the business I help to support(however little) why they are making a decision. Seems reasonable.
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01-09-2012 , 10:12 PM
3 seconds, just 3 seconds! that is all the extra time used if a player is not at the table if he does not get to his seat on time! Everyone here who is against this rule, just think reasonably if your argument is it slows the game down, it is a total of 3 seconds! It will take 20 deals before you loose 1 min. of the game.

And as far as missdeals... they will happen anyway they will happen to a seated player, and a player who is not at the table equally, this is an invalid argument!

3 seconds....

if you dropped a piece of food on the floor you would give it the 5 second rule! Just saying..

Last edited by superjustin; 01-09-2012 at 10:18 PM.
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01-10-2012 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by superjustin
3 seconds, just 3 seconds! that is all the extra time used if a player is not at the table if he does not get to his seat on time! Everyone here who is against this rule, just think reasonably if your argument is it slows the game down, it is a total of 3 seconds! It will take 20 deals before you loose 1 min. of the game.

And as far as missdeals... they will happen anyway they will happen to a seated player, and a player who is not at the table equally, this is an invalid argument!

3 seconds....

if you dropped a piece of food on the floor you would give it the 5 second rule! Just saying..


but you're commenting on a subject matter that doesn't pertain to you. and, when it's you that's paying Time, trust me, the last you want to happen is anything that effects your bottom line; that includes: slow dealers, dealers that talk too much, dealers that constantly make mistakes which results in misdeals. and, where did you come up with this 3 second stuff? did you really figure it out and decide that that's what it would amount to or are you just talking out of your arse? just saying.
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01-10-2012 , 01:38 AM
Can someone explain why borgata is considering this rule to deal in players not at table who have posted their blinds? Is there some benefit to doing this? All I can think of is that players who are at the table get all the free hands dealt to them that they would have had the player not gotten up. Is that the reason?
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01-10-2012 , 02:58 AM
lol, I have an idea of who might be the impetus behind this request. If it's who I think it is, he/she won't even be playing in the high limit room come summer time, I'm quite sure.

As for the rule, I really don't have any big bones to pick with it. I do feel that most dealers are pretty astute in seeing when a player is on their way back to the table and will ask if they want a hand. I have no qualms either way. It's live poker with human beings, it's going to be slow sometimes. Relax and enjoy the game.
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01-10-2012 , 07:19 AM
You guys who are asking what the benefit is apparantly didn't bother to read much of the discussion, I and others have mentioned benefits already, and it certainly does concern me, I play time games at Borgata about 30 hours a week.

To the person who asked about the Bellagio; I haven't been there since they changed structures, but as mentioned, it is only in the time games there. The 10/20 is not a time game and I don't know if the 20/40 is or not. When they had 30/60, they definately dealt to dead stacks.
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01-10-2012 , 03:12 PM
Ok so it's been a while. i do remember the ceilings being higher and made of solid gold, but aside from my recall being horrible. Borgata is as good as ever, decent mix of old and younger grinders and a bunch of noobs like myself who get punished by some of these grinders. It was a good time I logged only 9 hours but considering we got there at 3 am and i stopped playing at about noon the following day they were very long and fun hours. To top it off I now have juicy hotel offers that may be bringing me back time and time again. Happy poking everyone.
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01-10-2012 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sfetaz
Can someone explain why borgata is considering this rule to deal in players not at table who have posted their blinds? Is there some benefit to doing this? All I can think of is that players who are at the table get all the free hands dealt to them that they would have had the player not gotten up. Is that the reason?
Most changes come from feedback. I'm sure a few players complained about going to the bathroom, coming back on the SB and having to wait 2 hands.

Also likely a few people are so afraid they'll miss the BBJ payout that their bladders nearly explode... now that can go to the bathroom after being the button and not miss out.

It's really a non-issue I think other than that.

In fact you will likely find people taking more mini breaks, meaning there will be less people playing a hand (on average), so it actually speeds up the game.
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01-10-2012 , 06:01 PM
I drink a lot of water & soda, probably head to the bathroom once an hour. I wouldn't mind being dealt in since a lot of times I find myself sprinting back to the table. The idea that this would slow the game down for any meaningful amount of time is a bit laughable. The real time burglar are players who act like the WSOP cameras are on them when taking 5 minutes to make a decision.
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01-12-2012 , 08:37 AM
So are they just talking about this rule change or has it already been done? Will this include 5/10nl? The BBJ shouldn't even be in any levels 5/10+ IMHO. If your there you get to play, if your away from the table why waste cards?? Even if the reason has to do with the BBJ, if you don't miss a blind you get a table cut, if you miss the blinds tough luck I'm sure someone might give you a couple hundred bucks thanks for leaving the table.

I am far from a regular at the Borgota but got a trip up there planned this weekend, and plan on making the trip monthly.
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01-12-2012 , 11:26 AM
Heading down for a weekend of poker this weekend!

If I sit with like 3-5k at a blackjack table to just pass the time if I'm waiting for a seat at my game and don't plan on playing big, just there to pass the time but sitting with a nice chunk, will I get attention from the floor and will the result in more comp offers or is that not really gonna accomplish anything and i should just play fruit ninja on my iphone while I wait in the poker room?

I re-read my sentence there and its very bad grammatically, hopefully someone can make there way through it and give me an answer. thanks
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01-12-2012 , 11:34 AM
You will get noticed if you have 5k playing BJ, but even more so if you are just betting $25 bets with it. Your comp is a function of your avg bet and time, not your stack.
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01-12-2012 , 11:59 AM
Yeah that makes sense thanks for the response
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