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01-07-2012 , 03:29 PM

#18126

Brilliant27

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Originally Posted by Dr. Spaceman

I don't know anything about these rumors, but at the Bellagio they only deal you cards until you miss a blind, then you are dealt out until you return.

One of the floor people asked most 2/5 regs about their opinion on this around 3am on Wednesday night. I dont think this new rule should be implemented.

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01-07-2012 , 04:01 PM

#18127

Ruler of the East

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Time for a live game report Saturday 3:00pm

(http://www.theborgata.com/poker_live_data.cfm)

(53) Live games

(3) 2-4 LHE
(1) 3-6 LHE
(4) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(2) 40-80 LHE

(1) 1-2 PLO
(1) 15-30 Omaha H/L
(2) 20-40 Stud
(2) 75-150 Stud
(1) 100-200 Mixed

(17) 1-2 NL
(12) 2-5 NL
(3) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-25 NL

BBJP $315,606

Stan

Stanstrickland@theborgata.com

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01-07-2012 , 04:02 PM

#18128

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Originally Posted by foobar

IMO, the spectrum of limit games at different levels and 10,000 ft strategy is something like this:

< 10/20 - loose passive. Everybody is in the pot and calling you down with any piece of the board or draw. You're getting to showdown.
Line - Bet hands for value. Play hands that do well multiway.

10/20 - tight passive. Fewer people in the pot. You're getting to showdown most hands.
Line - raise before the flop to Isolate, and bet hands for value.

20/40 - lagtard. Nobody ever believes you have anything and people start to play back at you. You're getting to showdown.
Line - Very little bluffing, lots of value betting. Make thinner calls.

> 20/40 - tag. Aggression gets amped up and still nobody ever believes you have anything, but they might lay down a hand if you can tell a convincing story. Generally less showdowns.
Line - mix up play and adjust to table...pretty game dependent.

Fwiw, I don't think 10/20 is necessarily much more difficult than 3/6, it just plays differently and might take some adjusting. Take a shot and see how it goes

We are looking into making a few rule changes. Nothing to report at this time. I will announce everything soon. Still working on the details.

Stan

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01-07-2012 , 04:26 PM

#18129

punkass

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15-30 O8? Is it the same people who usually play 10-20? I wonder how this came to be.

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01-07-2012 , 08:06 PM

#18130

Ruler of the East

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Time for a live game report Saturday 6:00pm

(http://www.theborgata.com/poker_live_data.cfm)

(60) Live games

(2) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(4) 10-20 LHE
(3) 20-40 LHE
(2) 40-80 LHE

(1) 1-2 PLO
(1) 15-30 Omaha H/L
(2) 20-40 Stud
(2) 75-150 Stud
(1) 100-200 Mixed

(19) 1-2 NL
(14) 2-5 NL
(4) 5-10 NL
(2) 10-25 NL
(1) 25-50 NL

BBJP $315,606

Stan

Stanstrickland@theborgata.com

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01-07-2012 , 10:57 PM

#18131

NIN

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Many of these games are "short". On a "busy" day like today when it says there are (14) 2-5 games numerous games are 7 or 8 handed at times. Players are forced to sit in short games and games break quicker when this happens.

Can you please post the number of players in addition the number of tables . It would be a better representation of the number of players playing and indicate if the tables are full or not. The information is available through BRAVO once you are in the room. It'd be nice to see it online also. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East

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01-08-2012 , 01:07 AM

#18132

superjustin

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Originally Posted by NIN

think we can get the number of 2+2ers playing too?

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01-08-2012 , 01:38 AM

#18133

ashiXIII

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Originally Posted by superjustin

think we can get the number of 2+2ers playing too?

Also which fish are currently playing, how long they intend to stay and the number of transfers in line for that table.

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01-08-2012 , 07:44 AM

#18134

prototypepariah

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What's the logic behind dealing a player that isn't at the table in?

Is this something to do with the BBJ and dealt in = eligible?

I feel like it's a waste of a small amount of time dealing extra hands(what if 3-4 people are away) plus any extra time used to see if people are coming back, or whatever. I think it's also going to cause strife when player x gets 5-10 seconds while he runs back from the bathroom while player y is insta mucked.

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01-08-2012 , 12:12 PM

#18135

MrAce777

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Stan, I PMed you. Still waiting for your response.

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01-08-2012 , 12:43 PM

#18136

superjustin

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Originally Posted by prototypepariah

What's the logic behind dealing a player that isn't at the table in?

Is this something to do with the BBJ and dealt in = eligible?

I posted something about this 2 or 3 weeks back, I said if you had to go use the bathroom and your table hits the BBJ, you're not eligible to share in any of the winnings. That could be a very costly pee break, but I don't think the table should have to wait for you to get back to your seat, it should be up to you to make your presence known and that you are heading back to your seat, without yelling across the room.

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01-08-2012 , 02:51 PM

#18137

ashiXIII

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Originally Posted by prototypepariah

Some of the rooms in Vegas do this in a time charge; it's seriously a nonissue and almost never slows the game.

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01-08-2012 , 03:56 PM

#18138

midas

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Originally Posted by superjustin

I thought as long as you didn't miss your blinds you are BBJ eligible.

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01-08-2012 , 04:15 PM

#18139

Brilliant27

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Originally Posted by midas

I thought as long as you didn't miss your blinds you are BBJ eligible.

You thought wrong. You have to be dealt in the hand.

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01-08-2012 , 04:19 PM

#18140

superjustin

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Originally Posted by midas

I thought as long as you didn't miss your blinds you are BBJ eligible.

RULE #12 of the offical Borgata BBJ rules (see link at bottom);

A player who walks away from the game, but leaves his/her chips on the table AND he/she was in the hand at the beginning, will retain rights to his/her share of the Bad Beat Jackpot if a Bad Beat hand occurs.

So, if you are not dealt a hand then you are NOT eligible.

http://www.theborgata.com/assets/pdf...oker_rules.pdf

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01-08-2012 , 04:30 PM

#18141

superjustin

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Originally Posted by superjustin

And, don't even pick up your chips until the hand you are leaving on is finished.

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01-08-2012 , 04:44 PM

#18142

Rush17

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Originally Posted by prototypepariah

nothing to do with BBJ because the majority of the games that pay a Time fee (vs. rake) are not BBJ eligible anyway.

i do agree with your last statement and i can def. see it happening.

who knows, other card rooms have this "feature"of dealing everybody in who has paid Time...just hope it's a good thing; hate to do something different just because the guy down the street is doing it.

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01-08-2012 , 04:47 PM

#18143

midas

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Originally Posted by Brilliant27

You thought wrong. You have to be dealt in the hand.

That is not the rule at PA Sands. If your chips are on the table and you haven't missed your blinds you are eligible for a table share. I assumed that was typical because the fact that you left impacted the BBJ outcome.

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01-08-2012 , 04:49 PM

#18144

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You guys can prospect all day long but why not wait a week or so to get the whole story!

Stan

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01-08-2012 , 04:59 PM

#18145

Rush17

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personally, i would want to know what your complete thoughts were on the rule, and, i think it's equally important(probably more important, actually, cause we're the ones paying) for you to know how your players feel about it *before* the rule goes into effect. if the rule goes into effect and i think it's benefiting me more than it is hurting?...i'll be glad to come back and say, "Stan, great job, once again." fair?

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01-08-2012 , 05:00 PM

#18146

superjustin

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Originally Posted by midas

See my 2 prior posts, or just look at the Borgata website for the rules (#12) on the BBJ at The Borgata!

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01-08-2012 , 05:05 PM

#18147

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Originally Posted by Rush17

All three shift managers have been out there doing just that. If you personally haven't been asked your oppinion, i'm sorry. We will try to talk to as many people as possible.

Stan

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01-08-2012 , 05:07 PM

#18148

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Time for a live game report Sunday 4:00pm

(http://www.theborgata.com/poker_live_data.cfm)

(35) Live games

(2) 2-4 LHE
(1) 3-6 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE

(2) 15-30 Omaha H/L
(1) 75-150 Stud

(14) 1-2 NL
(7) 2-5 NL
(2) 5-10 NL
(1) 10-25 NL
(1) 25-50 NL

BBJP $330,722

Stan

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01-08-2012 , 05:12 PM

#18149

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We are "thinking" about revising the BBJP to allow players to be eligible for a players share as long as they have not missed any blinds.

We are "thinking" about dealing in players that are playing in a time game but away from the table until they oew or missed a blind. Not sure what limits we would include at this moment.

Stan