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01-08-2012 , 05:21 PM

#18151

dipce

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,845

i don't have any preference either way for either rule change. i suppose if i'm playing 2-5 and trying to get the attention of a cocktail waitress, it might give me ten more seconds to find my seat, but it would slow the game down a bit too, ... I think the rules are fine now, and don't have an objection to either rule change, though dealing in players away from the table in a 2-5 game may prove more trouble and time consuming than it's worth. thank you for always thinking of changes to benefit the players... very experienced 20-40 player I just consulted, is of the opinion, if you are out smoking, you don't get dealt in...

Last edited by dipce; 01-08-2012 at 05:34 PM.

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01-08-2012 , 05:32 PM

#18152

superjustin

grinder

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 407

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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East

All three shift managers have been out there doing just that. If you personally haven't been asked your oppinion, i'm sorry. We will try to talk to as many people as possible.

Stan

Stan,

If it keeps you BBJ eligible then OK, I like it, maybe even 1 pass at big and small (auto-posted for missing player, as well as time payed). As long as the player is at his seat when the action gets to him, his hand is not mucked, I have seen dealers muck all hands for missing players before any action even happens at tournaments, I hope this does not happen in the cash games if the rule is implemented. But if the new rule changes nothing then why even bother?

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01-08-2012 , 05:35 PM

#18153

Rush17

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,973

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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East

All three shift managers have been out there doing just that. If you personally haven't been asked your oppinion, i'm sorry. We will try to talk to as many people as possible.

Stan

this is fine with me^ because it says that you're going to base it on what will work best for the players...you didn't have to persoanlly ask for my opinion. i trust the majority.

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01-08-2012 , 05:44 PM

#18154

Rush17

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,973

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Originally Posted by dipce

"very experienced 20-40 player I just consulted, is of the opinion, if you are out smoking, you don't get dealt in."

i'm pretty sure that's not correct and it doesn't even make sense if you think about it. if you've paid your Time for that half, you will be dealt a hand. taking a 5 minute break to go pee gives you no more clout than taking a 5 minute smoke break would. it's all equal.

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01-08-2012 , 06:23 PM

#18155

ciabathehutt

self-banned

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 153

Dealing in empty stacks doesn't slow the game down at all. This is the policy at the Bellagio.

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01-08-2012 , 06:36 PM

#18156

afish

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 670

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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East

We are "thinking" about revising the BBJP to allow players to be eligible for a players share as long as they have not missed any blinds.

We are "thinking" about dealing in players that are playing in a time game but away from the table until they oew or missed a blind. Not sure what limits we would include at this moment.

Stan

I say if it isn't broke, don't fix it. The current system has been in place in AC since I started playing poker in the late '90s, and it has never caused a problem. Also, I've never dealt a hand of poker, but my instinct is that dealers would make mistakes dealing to empty spots. They are used to dealing to people in seats. Misdeals would probably slow the game down.

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01-08-2012 , 06:48 PM

#18157

Ruler of the East

Poker Room Rep

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,423

This policy change ragarding dealing in absent players would most likely envolve higher limits and yes, hands will be killed as soon as the action has reached it.

Stan

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01-08-2012 , 06:52 PM

#18158

Ruler of the East

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,423

I do not see 2-5 NL being part of this policy change. Not sure about the starting point for Limit.

Stan

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01-08-2012 , 07:09 PM

#18159

chillrob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23,160

Well if they do add in this policy, I hope it does include 10/20 limit. There are a lot of times I have been standing right behind my chair talking to someone or taking 30 seconds to put something in the trash can and been dealt out.

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01-08-2012 , 07:23 PM

#18160

NickMPK

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Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11,735

I couldn't care less what the rule is regarding dealing to absent stacks (unless you are talking about a triple draw game where it is possible to run out of cards)...but it seems bizarre to me that you would have different rules at different limits.

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01-08-2012 , 07:41 PM

#18161

Ruler of the East

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Originally Posted by NickMPK

Becasue the high limit players are the ones wanting the change.

Stan

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01-08-2012 , 11:16 PM

#18162

P0nzi

banned

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 983

stan pretty much every reg at 5/10 nl hates the bbj and nobody who is playing poker to try and hit it goes to 5/10

have you guys thought about getting rid of it in 5/10?

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01-09-2012 , 12:31 AM

#18163

dela

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 146

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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East

We are "thinking" about revising the BBJP to allow players to be eligible for a players share as long as they have not missed any blinds.

Stan

If you are looking for votes, I vote yes. I have often wondered why Borgata was not already doing this.

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01-09-2012 , 12:34 AM

#18164

prototypepariah

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Originally Posted by ciabathehutt

Dealing in empty stacks doesn't slow the game down at all. This is the policy at the Bellagio.

Out of curiosity, do you know why they do this? I'm trying to figure out reasons why you would deal someone in that isn't sitting down. I see chillrobs post a few up, and while that might happen, it's rarely. If i'm popping up and figure to be back in time, I simply ask to be dealt in.

Other than for the BBJ, I'm just drawing a blank as to why you would want to deal more hands than needed. (seriously just asking)

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01-09-2012 , 01:10 AM

#18165

FromACtoLV

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Seems to me that you can change the BBJ rule to say that you have to not miss a blind without causing potential misdeals by dealing to empty seats.

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01-09-2012 , 01:46 AM

#18166

johnnybgood7

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 169

I haven't been to AC in a while, so excuse me if this is a stupid question but...:

Have the mix games that Borgata introduced still been running at stakes in between 10/20- 40/80? Has there been much interest from the players in the mix games in general? Just asking, because the east coast needs a place to play these games.

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01-09-2012 , 03:37 AM

#18167

chillrob

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Originally Posted by P0nzi

stan pretty much every reg at 5/10 nl hates the bbj and nobody who is playing poker to try and hit it goes to 5/10

have you guys thought about getting rid of it in 5/10?

It was originally not in the 5/10 NL game but was added later. I don't play in it, but I heard that the regulars requested it.

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01-09-2012 , 03:39 AM

#18168

chillrob

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Originally Posted by johnnybgood7

There have hardly ever been any games in those ranges. In the summer there was 30/60 some weekdays, of the same people who played 40/80 on the weekends. Also in the summer a 20/40 mix went a few times, and a 7.50/15 mix went several times, but I don't think either of them have gone in months.

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01-09-2012 , 07:14 AM

#18169

prototypepariah

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10/20 mix went like 3 weeks ago at over night, but definitely an isolated incident. It wouldn't hurt interest to get some sort of promo rake/time going at the lower levels.

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01-09-2012 , 09:37 AM

#18170

dela

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 146

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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV

Seems to me that you can change the BBJ rule to say that you have to not miss a blind without causing potential misdeals by dealing to empty seats.

Definitely, Bally's does it this way, it works fine. As long as you don't miss a blind you are cut into the BBJ, and they do not deal to empty stacks.

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01-09-2012 , 12:04 PM

#18171

jpgoody123

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 61

Is it worth going to the Borgata if you don't plan to play anything. Just a romantic weekend with the wife? Is there any way to get a good deal on the rooms?

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01-09-2012 , 12:13 PM

#18172

superjustin

grinder

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 407

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Originally Posted by dela

Definitely, Bally's does it this way, it works fine. As long as you don't miss a blind you are cut into the BBJ, and they do not deal to empty stacks.

Well, what do you loose to deal to a stack with a missing player? 3 seconds, 1 sec. to deal a card and 1 to muck them if the player doesn't sit in time, give me a break! We wait for people who don't even know the action has gotten to them, and getting their drinks, playing with their phones etc. Yet dealing and mucking a hand is going to drag a game for hours? If you don't want this rule because it will slow the game, then you sir are a whiner!

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01-09-2012 , 12:21 PM

#18173

superjustin

grinder

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 407

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Originally Posted by jpgoody123

Is it worth going to the Borgata if you don't plan to play anything. Just a romantic weekend with the wife? Is there any way to get a good deal on the rooms?

YES, go down and play few times before that trip, the 10/20, 20/40 and all the NL games are waiting for your money... I mean for you! LOL!

good comps through the poker room.

Do you play at the B?

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01-09-2012 , 12:21 PM

#18174

P0nzi

banned

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 983

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Originally Posted by prototypepariah

i think the logic is those people paid for the seat so they are entitled to a hand until they miss the blind

i really don't have a preference either way, but ive seen dealers deal to an empty seat in late position and instantly muck their hand which is complete bull**** and defeats the purpose