Pretty sick....just installed on my iPhone and it sees the casinos but I don't see any games. I likey

i forget to check out too and of course it's always on the days i play for 10 hours+.

will be going this saturday for some 5/10. remind me to check out if you see me stan!!!

Are you guys still talking about checking out for recent visits? No need to check out with the Bravo system now.

Is there a discounted rate if you log so many hours of poker in a day for fri or sat?

It wasn't one of the reasons, it was the only reason. But people who were caught doing it were usually banned, so you were taking a big risk if you did. Luckily the B won't have to worry about that anymore, but it also may drive away compwhores as well.

I really don't think comp abuse was the only reason, it might have not even been a main reason. The Bravo system is nearly everywhere now, even in Charlestown, WV, where they give no comps for play!!

The odds of getting caught are about 0 unless you're a dumbass and do it every day. I guarantee you I could do it under the old system with zero risk. Problem is it just isn't worth the effort to do it for me. But there definitely are people who will go through great lengths to scam 30 comp $ / day.

I'm not part of management so I don't know the reasons for the change, but I highly doubt comp scamming was the ONLY reason.

Degenerate drug addicts do this all the time over at the Taj. That's one of the reasons I stopped going - at least 1-2 times a sessions guys would walk up to me AT THE TABLE and beg for money. I'm sure anyone who's played at the Taj knows at least one of the guys I'm talking about - in there every day and never actually playing.

I personally love the system. No need to run around screaming "SEAT OPEN!!!" Better management of the list and open tables. Impossible to forget to clock out and lose all your comps. No need to wait for clockout guy to finish talking on the phone with his gf. Etc.

the bravo system defintly slows the games down
id rather have to remember to clock out than get less hands in, especially when I am paying time

There was a reg at the 5/10 tables last year that would play one hand, then bet on the horses for an hour, come back and play a hand, repeat for the rest of the day. The guy was not banned, the dealers laughed it off "yeah he always does that", and the floor eventually said "ok I'll talk to the guy", which they did, and he continued doing it. All hail Bravo.

One other plus for the bravo system is the new "Bravo Poker Live" app for android and iPhone. It's basically the bravo games list to every poker room on your phone.

Each casino has to activate the "live" feature to get it to show up on the app. It just came out Monday so not too many casinos are live yet.

Stan, can you add Borgata to the "live" list please????

I don't think paying $12/hr in time for $2/hr in comps is considered cheating the system.

Fair point, but he didn't exactly create a lot of action either

Time for a live game report Wednesday 5:10pm


(32) Live games


(3) 2-4 LHE
(1) 3-6 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(1) 20-40 LHE


(1) 10-20 Omaha H/L
(2) 40-80 ORET


(12) 1-2 NL
(8) 2-5 NL
(2) 5-10 NL


BBJP $319,292


Stan

Stanstrickland@theborgata.com

Everything you said is completely false. If anything it required little effort and high risk. I know dozens of people on the high side that were banned for doing this. (Clocking in to a game at 11AM and playing until like 10PM, went to sleep and woke up at 5:30AM to hit the rollover and clock out).

And management could care less if there are open seats they want to make sure regulars are not cheating the B. It saves the B money and requires less manpower to monitor the comps they are giving out.

I'm not sure how much the new system is saving Borgata in comps or if they are measuring it but I do know of several players (none of which were ever caught or banned) that used to run cards when they were not playing.

After months of being implemented though all dealers you'd think would be as proficient with the system as possible so I'm not expecting any more improvement. IMO as already pointed out it definately slows down the game, albeit not as much as when it was first installed. Many times players are taken out accidentally when another players is being swiped in causing the older player to have to be reswiped causing even more delays. Additionally I have discovered on many occassions that I am not even swiped in either because I forgot to give my card and the dealer never asked me or because I was accidentally taken out without my knowledge. Recently I've made it a habit of checking that I'm still swiped in every half hour or so to avoid losing comps. It's saved me from doing so.

Also..I don't think it's done anything to aid players in their table transfer requests or in filling games. When a game is short in a unmanned or less frequented part of the room it still remains that way as much as it used to.

Overall as player that did not run their card and always clocked out I much prefer the old system.

The situation you described sounds like regs doing this on a regular basis. Not to mention if you do this on a high limit game that's also stupid. If you're clocking out of a game that closed 3 hours ago that's going to look sketchy. The advice I gave to a buddy of mine on how to do it was to do it at 1/2 or 2/5 NL (eg. Games that are always open) and not to do it more then once or twice a week.

Of course, most people who would spend their time to do this for a measly 30 comp $ probably aren't too smart.

Hey Stan,

I was playing the 5/10 nl tonight (which pays time) and was wondering why Borgata doesn't allow players to do business (i.e. running it more than once) or straddles of any kind?

Also, why are players allowed to talk on the phone at the table when they have
live cards?

Thanks in advance. See you guys tomorrow.

As far as I know, there is no straddling due to New Jersey Casino Control Commission regulations. Blind raises are allowed UTG though.

Players are not allowed to talk on phone while in the hand. The dealer should have enforced this.

I can think of two very good reasons to not allow doing business.
1) it takes time. No need to elaborate here.
2) it involves the house if there's some kind of dispute or angle shoot. Just a quick example: player a says "want to run it twice?" player b: "sure, go ahead". Player b hits his draw on the first run then he says he was saying "go ahead" to the dealer, not agreeing to run it 2x. Or someone could agree to something then argue about it because they don't know what they're agreeing to. If the dealer has to explain stuff, see reason #1

game report please!

Once you play enough you should get a poker rate on your My Borgata Card page/login on the site. you prob need to book the room before as they only have so many poker rate rooms set aside. As for Fri/Sat, I doubt there's much if any of a discount.

What are the usual turnouts/top payouts for the Sat night 300+40 and Friday 12PM 270+30?

Time for a live game report Thursday 4:30pm


(36) Live games


(3) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(3) 10-20 LHE
(1) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE


(1) 10-20 Omaha H/L
(1) 20-40 Stud
(1) 50-100 OREQTB


(10) 1-2 NL
(10) 2-5 NL
(3) 5-10 NL


BBJP $324,278


Stan

Stanstrickland@theborgata.com