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11-16-2010 , 08:26 AM
Stan:

Please check your emails and PM's. I need some feedback for this weekend. I sent an email Thursday and Saturday and a PM yesterday. Thanks.
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11-16-2010 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Trombone1027
Stan:

Please check your emails and PM's. I need some feedback for this weekend. I sent an email Thursday and Saturday and a PM yesterday. Thanks.
Will do.

Stan
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11-16-2010 , 09:02 AM
btw-I think I asked this before but is there anything "special" going on black friday-tourney wise...or just the daily ?

Pardo
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11-16-2010 , 11:03 AM
The daily last year, the 340, was huge and first was like 41k or something unreal. I would expect the same this year.
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11-16-2010 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by acdawg712
really, 1/2 PLO in high limit room. Must not have been Saturday since it was in the regular room. I should have played but didn't since I was drunk. I should have in retrospect, since I probably would have lost the same amount either way haha. The PLO game isn't hard, I know most of the regs and just try to avoid them and target the fish. Avoid high variance spots like getting it all in preflop or flop with certain hands you would online if you want to play a safer style.
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Originally Posted by spicytekkie
Whaaaaaa....1/2 PLO in the High-Limit room? When was this? I never played there before. Though I really hope future games start in there, too! ;-)
I believe it was a late Saturday night / early Sunday morning maybe.... 6 months ago? Less?
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11-16-2010 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East
Will do.

Stan
stan, ive sent you 3 emails from two different email accounts over the past 2 weeks, not sure what's been going on. Ill send you a PM. Ive hopefully got a trip coming up to try to get you some new degens in the casino (ive got a lot of friends, and ive sort of slowly been rotating a lot of random people into your casino.)

Thanks
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11-16-2010 , 03:14 PM
heading down a week from today. historically does the action pick up at all in the days before thanksgiving? or just after
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11-16-2010 , 06:09 PM
Controversial decision occurred at my 1-2 table Friday night. There were 4 people in the pot including myself on the button. On the turn. The first guy bets, second and third guy both call, and Im about to fold, but before I do, the dealer puts out the river card. I informed the dealer that I hadnt acted yet, and was going to fold regardless.

The players at the table, myself included, were under the impression that if I fold, the river card remains as is, and only if I changed the action (by calling or raising) would the river card get reshuffled in the deck. However, the dealer insisted on reshuffling regardless, which caused an uproar at the rest of the table (again, I was pretty indifferent, as I was folding regardless). The floor was called, but the first few attendents could not agree on a proper ruling, and finally, a floor guy rules that regardless of my intention to fold, the river card is dead, and must be reshulffled. The others were livid, as the new river card paired the board, and caused someone's flush to be beaten by a full house.

Is this the proper ruling? If so, what is the reasoning behind redrawing the river card when its exposure had no possible consequence on my decision? Just wondering what the 2+2 world's thoughts are.
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11-16-2010 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BigO6377
Controversial decision occurred at my 1-2 table Friday night. There were 4 people in the pot including myself on the button. On the turn. The first guy bets, second and third guy both call, and Im about to fold, but before I do, the dealer puts out the river card. I informed the dealer that I hadnt acted yet, and was going to fold regardless.

The players at the table, myself included, were under the impression that if I fold, the river card remains as is, and only if I changed the action (by calling or raising) would the river card get reshuffled in the deck. However, the dealer insisted on reshuffling regardless, which caused an uproar at the rest of the table (again, I was pretty indifferent, as I was folding regardless). The floor was called, but the first few attendents could not agree on a proper ruling, and finally, a floor guy rules that regardless of my intention to fold, the river card is dead, and must be reshulffled. The others were livid, as the new river card paired the board, and caused someone's flush to be beaten by a full house.

Is this the proper ruling? If so, what is the reasoning behind redrawing the river card when its exposure had no possible consequence on my decision? Just wondering what the 2+2 world's thoughts are.
You were protecting your action on the turn. To protect your action on the turn, the errant river gets reshuffled.

What if you wanted to bet after seeing the card? The nature of what you 'wanted to do' should not matter. You could have stayed silent and mucked (even out of turn)
They may have even ruled that it is too late - you failed to protect your action. But as they ruled you had a right to act on the turn, the river gets reshuffled.
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11-16-2010 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BigO6377
Controversial decision occurred at my 1-2 table Friday night. There were 4 people in the pot including myself on the button. On the turn. The first guy bets, second and third guy both call, and Im about to fold, but before I do, the dealer puts out the river card. I informed the dealer that I hadnt acted yet, and was going to fold regardless.

The players at the table, myself included, were under the impression that if I fold, the river card remains as is, and only if I changed the action (by calling or raising) would the river card get reshuffled in the deck. However, the dealer insisted on reshuffling regardless, which caused an uproar at the rest of the table (again, I was pretty indifferent, as I was folding regardless). The floor was called, but the first few attendents could not agree on a proper ruling, and finally, a floor guy rules that regardless of my intention to fold, the river card is dead, and must be reshulffled. The others were livid, as the new river card paired the board, and caused someone's flush to be beaten by a full house.

Is this the proper ruling? If so, what is the reasoning behind redrawing the river card when its exposure had no possible consequence on my decision? Just wondering what the 2+2 world's thoughts are.
My understanding is the same as yours - if you decide to put money into the pot the card is reshuffled. If you fold it stays, because then it doesn't really matter that it was put out too quickly. This was is not absolutely perfect, but there is nothing that can be done to make the situation perfect. Actually it is even possible that your fold could be influenced by the card exposed (I see card x is not in anyone's hand, therefore I want to fold), but that fact that you have extra info cannot be fixed at this point.

I certainly don't blame the snafu on you, but if you really were folding regardless, I think it would have been better if you just hadn't said anything and folded quickly and quietly. That's what I would have done.
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11-16-2010 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by argablarg
heading down a week from today. historically does the action pick up at all in the days before thanksgiving? or just after
I am also kind of wondering what the action will be like on Thanksgiving and the night before as I am considering going those days. I would even be fine with regular Wednesday night in the winter / Thursday in the winter action, but I would hate Christmas Eve / Christmas Day action which I have been for before (everywhere was dead).
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11-16-2010 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VJP
I am not a Black label yet but I am on pace, Im spending around $80 on parking a month at the Borg!
Im not black label but I get free unlimited parking from the Borgata mailed to my house every month. Its a little card perforated on the poker news mailing. Check for it next month or make a phone call.

Also, 3-5??? Wow I have been out of the loop, I assume its 500-1000 buy-in but will go investigate right now online.
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11-16-2010 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by metsjetsrangers
Im not black label but I get free unlimited parking from the Borgata mailed to my house every month. Its a little card perforated on the poker news mailing. Check for it next month or make a phone call.

Also, 3-5??? Wow I have been out of the loop, I assume its 500-1000 buy-in but will go investigate right now online.
Yep, it was something Stan posted January or something of this year...

$3-5 NLHE
Min-max buy-ins: $300-1000
$2/hour in comps.
10% up to $4 rake
6-max

Am I right?
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11-16-2010 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by metsjetsrangers
Im not black label but I get free unlimited parking from the Borgata mailed to my house every month. Its a little card perforated on the poker news mailing. Check for it next month or make a phone call.

Also, 3-5??? Wow I have been out of the loop, I assume its 500-1000 buy-in but will go investigate right now online.
Actually the min is $200 and the max is $1000. We tried spreading the game months ago but it never would. Since players have gone to Parx and tried these limits, it has made it easier for us to get the game. The 4-8 LHE game has been easier to get off thanks to Parx as well.

Stan
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11-16-2010 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spicytekkie
Yep, it was something Stan posted January or something of this year...

$3-5 NLHE
Min-max buy-ins: $300-1000
$2/hour in comps.
10% up to $4 rake
6-max

Am I right?
Not quite but close.

$3-5 NLHE
Min $200 Max $1000
$2 Hour in comps
$5 time
10 handed game

Stan
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11-16-2010 , 11:25 PM
Will be in the room Saturday Noon to Sunday about 11PM. First trip since Labor Day. I carry around a Mirage Las Vegas black *** bag/murse. Sup.
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11-17-2010 , 02:17 AM
Hey Stan,

What's the word in the 2 for 1 comps for us 2-5 players?
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11-17-2010 , 10:36 AM
Thanks Stan for a poker rate hook-up this weekend. Me and my buddy had a great time staying there Thurs-Sun.

I played 1/2 NL, plus 3/6, 4/8 (excited to see the game going), and 10/20 LHE. I thought the NL games were softer than I recalled in the past and the room seemed busy. Unfortunately, I was card dead in the LHE games and those losses covered my NL winnings. Dealers were talking about the Junkies Open bringing in a lot of soft spots.

I was looking to eat relatively healthy and found Lettuce Head and the Hibachi(?) place in the cafeteria were good as was N.O.W. Oatmeal at B&B was also a good way to start the day.
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11-17-2010 , 11:16 AM
Apologies if this has already been answered (didn't see anything), but what are the average size fields for the regular Sunday 11am, Monday 11am and 7 pm, and Tuesday 11am daily tournaments? Stan? Anyone?

Will be in town for my annual extended weekend pre-Turkey Day degeneracy.

Thanks.
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11-17-2010 , 12:55 PM
average is about 500 ppl for all
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11-17-2010 , 02:50 PM
So... Stan... 4-8 LHE, eh? Game get off often?

Any thoughts on killing off the 3-6 and making this the "game"?
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11-17-2010 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scooter7
Apologies if this has already been answered (didn't see anything), but what are the average size fields for the regular Sunday 11am, Monday 11am and 7 pm, and Tuesday 11am daily tournaments? Stan? Anyone?

Will be in town for my annual extended weekend pre-Turkey Day degeneracy.

Thanks.
For weekday tournies the 11am tends to run until 5-8pm depending if it's a guarantee event. 7pm I've seen usually run past 1am. Doesn't matter if it's 180 or 220 people.. tends to ends about the same time.
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11-17-2010 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
My understanding is the same as yours - if you decide to put money into the pot the card is reshuffled. If you fold it stays, because then it doesn't really matter that it was put out too quickly. This was is not absolutely perfect, but there is nothing that can be done to make the situation perfect. Actually it is even possible that your fold could be influenced by the card exposed (I see card x is not in anyone's hand, therefore I want to fold), but that fact that you have extra info cannot be fixed at this point.

I certainly don't blame the snafu on you, but if you really were folding regardless, I think it would have been better if you just hadn't said anything and folded quickly and quietly. That's what I would have done.
Of course the card goes back in. This player who's about to fold now has an advantage. If the turn didn't help him he can now choose what to do for the next one. It always goes back in
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11-17-2010 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by phazeONE
Of course the card goes back in. This player who's about to fold now has an advantage. If the turn didn't help him he can now choose what to do for the next one. It always goes back in
Sorry, you don't get it. He does have a sligh advantage (knowing a card not in someone's hand), but that fact cannot be fixed. If he folds it doesn't hurt anything to keep the original turn card, and it messes up things less for the players still in the hand (none of them will have extra info about a card not in someone's hand).
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11-17-2010 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Sorry, you don't get it. He does have a sligh advantage (knowing a card not in someone's hand), but that fact cannot be fixed. If he folds it doesn't hurt anything to keep the original turn card, and it messes up things less for the players still in the hand (none of them will have extra info about a card not in someone's hand).
Sorry you didn't get it. It's a clear cut rule, prevents a possible move by person yet to act. Just check out Roberts rules of poker under holdem, sec. 5.
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