Agreed, they just teased us and crossed us off. Consolidation and marketing push by time the Euro starts is a good strategy. Month long big tournaments are very good opportunity to do this.

I myself started playing at Totel seeing it advertised on Goal.com for the World Cup in South Africa in 2010. Still see some players all over the platform's from those days.

Already started on Fanaments and nice to see that they got rid of the early kick-off game so we can see team line up. Oulala just playing free-roll's to get used to their scoring. Bet4best is good, just user interface needs sorting, one intriguing site is Matchboss by Squwaka.

All those are good names (along with Mondo, which I know you are not the best fan of...).

I just dream that one day, there will be a global multi-sport DFS platform present in all clean jurisdictions (most of Europe, Canada, Auz/NZ, hopefully as many US states as possible soon,...). Time for some big bookies or poker sites to work on it.

We must sound to them like right old whinging customers. On Mondo, simple thing like a filter for the different contests types will be so nice. Fantasybet set a filter for the lobby this week to make it user friendly. A responsive site is nice.

I do not think it is that far off before one of the bigger bookies/poker sites work on a global DFS platform. Have a look at this, saw it few days ago. A pool score prediction game doing a side fantasy game.

https://www.i-pools.co.uk/fantasy-football-real-returns

Draftkings to be live in uk by mid Feb. Wooo.

Source?

Their new CMO handling international marketing

They have kept on moving the dates and that is understandable with all their legal hustles. They sure must be tired of lawyers and lawyer's fees by now.

But a February launch with 60% of the season gone does not make sense at all.

You will think they will do targeted marketing, hopefully none of that cheesy you can be a millionaire stuff. Then launch in a big way for Euro 2016 followed by Copa America Centenario. Then hit their stride for the Premier League season 2016/17.

At the moment there are so many DFS football sites here, even with them offering a bigger prize pool hard to make themselves stand out from the crowd. Non of these sites have 500 unique players playing week and week out.

Few hundreds at best and a hard-core crowd. Lots of harbor sharks and most of these platform's are struggling to engage & retain new players who can deposit then not run out soon after.

As you can see in the link below Fan Duel license still pending and highly unlikely they will go live till next season. At best a beta version for the remaining games in the season.

https://secure.gamblingcommission.go...ccountNo=43990

Draft Kings license is active and they can go ahead anytime.

https://secure.gamblingcommission.go...ccountNo=42475

I can not find any license application for DraftPot. As you can see Squwaka are promising to launch the biggest DFS football game in 2016.

http://www.matchboss.com

Crowded market and guessing it will be like this till one or two sites eventually dominate it big time. It should be fun for us in Europe as we still way behind the saturated US market.

Ridiculously crowded here in the UK for sure, even if there are now two different markets: single game contests vs traditional daily contests. Consolidation will come.

Squawka sounds promising, they tried to raise £17m via crowdfunding. Doubt they raised the all lot, but even a fraction of it would put them straight ahead of the pack with Mondo. With 500k followers in the UK (all big football fans), they also have a natural audience.

DK launches in the UK when they launch. Could be mid Feb, could be June, could be never. I doubt even them do know, as they face new problems and try to come up with new solutions every single day.

Fanduel already said it would be a totally different game (hence them not applying for pool betting) and segregated from US contests. Could be a deal breaker, could be a fluke. We will see in a couple of months.

All in all, we are still months away from a global platform operating in all clean/pro gambling states and offering contests in the main sports. We will get there (I heard Oz is now big on dfs, not too surprising).

I had an issue with fanaments, i reserved 2 tickets for a tournament that was going to happen in 5 days. I tried to unregister from it but their was no option for doing it. I then totally forgot about the tournament and didnt select any teams, thus losing my money without even playing. I contacted the support and suggested them to remove the reserve feature or add an unregister option. This is what they replied :

The option of unregistering from tournaments would allow users take advantage of the system and register to tournaments that do not match the guarantee because of low player entries, thus increasing their chance of winning.
Additionally, this would reduce our ability to anticipate tournament registrations and evaluation of registrations.

The middle ground we selected is the aforementioned display message, as well as the need for each player to confirm his team to a selected tournament.

We thank you for your feedback and assure you that it will get across to our development team, and added to our list of improvement suggestions.

Sincerely,

Stuart - Fanaments Support.

Do their reasons for not changing it make any sense ?

Well idk much about that but it seems to me that those reasons are kinda bs - main reason they wouldn't want to allow people to unregister is because it increases the likelihood of overlay I guess. They have to evaluate expected no. of entries before registration opens, so they either need to set their guarantee properly or be prepared to take a loss until they have a bigger player base. Allowing people to unreg means that it is more difficult for them to set the guarantee in the first place and would probably result in them setting a lower guarantee.

That being said it's their decision whether or not to allow people to unregister and if they state on the site that you won't be refunded on your entry then there isn't much you can do about it.

As for DK seeing as they have got the license I can't see why they don't want to launch in the UK asap provided they are planning on having shared liquidity with North America. They could open the site up to UK players without actually doing any big marketing until the Euros which would allow them to test and flag up any issues before they go hard on advertising. Idk whether operating costs would be too high to make a launch feasible without significant marketing though.

Looking forward to the MG Championship.

Sigh mondogoal pulls out of Florida so I can't play on mg anymore.

Yes, it looks that way. Think they just want to operate in regulated markets and it is all understandable in withdrawing from all states where there is legal hassle.

Interesting to see how big their championship will eventually get. The last game week of the season will have a lot of dead rubber games where either the teams are mentally on holiday or conserving themselves for Euro 2016. Last season all was settled before last game, except the last relegation place making it very predictable.

Here is the Italian version of the game and it has gone live in the past few weeks. The pools needs to be segregated and player funds protected in line with Italian gaming regulation. So not much chance of having a combined global league with bigger pools.

I am now playing paid contests on Fanaments it blows all DFS sites when it comes to slick game play and live scoring updates. Also you pretty much get the full weekend fixtures and can differentiate one's line-up. These six to seven fixture contests are a bit of a joke as most end up with same players and line-up's.

http://www.insideworldfootball.com/f...games-in-italy

http://mondogoal.it

dele alli, take a bow son



nice weekend bigo, congrats

Talented player Alli, wonderful goal and break out young player of the season.

It was nice seeing Kante for Leicester get appreciation too, signing of the season with Payet. We all like Payet for fantasy production and Kante has been a revelation.

His goal reminded of the sublime Neymar goal against Villarreal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U73ZlhKP7A

FA cup week coming up so a nice break from fantasy games. If anyone has started trading at football index or Buabook, will be great to hear from your experience. Trading seems the next step up from fantasy betting. One is spread and the other normal trade.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/features/foo...cipate-7206793

http://www.cityam.com/226036/first-f...es-top-players

https://www.footballindex.co.uk

http://blog.buabook.com

Is this a better alternative to fantasy H2H ? Have a look.

http://www.betolio.com

Another week, another fantasy sites coming up.

http://www.leaguesx.com/

http://www.worldofootball.com

I started using Football Index about a week ago and I'm really enjoying it, I have no knowledge of share trading but so far so good. The site is fairly slick if a bit limited and there are couple of fairly big issues that can have a negative impact if you don't learn quickly. However compared to other Daily Fantasy sites in their first few months of launch this is pretty good.

It's difficult to anticipate exactly what returns are available and I do get a feeling that the variance is going to be pretty wild especially at the moment as the prices are moving up and down without any relevant cause. However if it does take off then it will be good to be involved early on and from what I have read they seem to have strong team backing them and are on track for further funding.

Care to elaborate on the "fairly big issues" that would cost a new customer?

Have played season long and DFS soccer for a while now but not pulled the trigger on footballindex

Also, surely prices increase as people buy the commodity (player in this case) and fall when people sell etc?

Thanks!

Its mainly about the fact not all of the information is there to help with your decision making, things such as who the previous buzz winners were (the players that got paid a daily dividend based on positive media stories that day), or details of players who are trending down instead of just up and other little things. I think most of this is just part of the natural improvement process a new site goes through. However the key issue that can easily be missed in the first few days is based around the fact that each Friday two players are relegated and two promoted Those promoted have 8 weeks exemption from relegation, but if you are holding shares in those that are relegated then you lose all of your money. That is really the only major risk in losing money quickly. The problem is that its easy to assume that the bottom two in the list will be relegated but it could actually be the player who is 17th to the bottom as nowhere on the site does it tell you who is exempt at any given time. Apparently the site are looking to add it at some point but I bet a few people have fallen foul of this at the start.

In respect of price increases you are correct, Im just having trouble working out when people will start buying different players and when to ditch it's not always obvious. This is mainly around the money I have allocated for short term trades. The market is very volatile at the moment mainly I assume because a lot of people are joining and putting in money whilst they are still trying to figure out the best way to do it or trying to to make quick profit, overall their is an upward trend for most players if you hold them long enough. I am between 2% and 20% up on all of my medium and long term holds since Wednesday.

I would suggest you give it a try as it does have a different vibe to dfs. They were doing a matched deposit up to £25 but I get the impression that may have finished, its worth having a look for it though.

Thanks for the info! I've only looked at the site on mobile so don't know if there are other features on a desktop version.

Seems like they should at least state who is exempt from relegation or at least when they were promoted so you can keep track yourself! Also, are graphs for each player available? Like every other trading commodity?

Thanks!

Think I will fire off a fair bit over the next few days and take advantage of any volatility!

Thanks for the info Dan and your experience playing it. I am just going through the player list and can see Xavi there too. So it is a broad player pool from across the leagues. Indeed a different vibe to DFS, which is more than welcome.

Buzz concept is a new one. Will be great to get more info which criteria is used to relegate and promote. I will print the trading guide and have a thorough read.

Will recommend likewise on Buabook. The learning guide, overview and faq comes up 11 pages printed and good to read it thoroughly.

They do have the two lists that they tweet out but it isn't on the site which just seems odd.

They have graphs with the daily price covering the last four weeks, having never done this I'm not sure what should be available but it does feel like I'm trying to do it a bit blind especially where I'm trying to do some quick daily trading for small gains

No worries I thought I should give something back for all the great info that you and others have been posting on this thread. If you have any questions after you've read up on it I'm happy to try to answer, I've found a football index forum that has only recently been set up with some useful info, I won't post it in case it's against the rules, someone will have to say if you want it posting here.

Have you played on Buabook yet and if so what are your thoughts?

Anybody knows if there is a dfs site for the eredivisie. (The netherlands) i found one (zweeler) but it is very limited.

For Eredivise Zweeler is the only I know of as well.

If I come across any other will let you know.